"NO ACTIVATION" and "Serial key" headaches on payware scenery :drinks: I bought some US Airports and it was just drag n drop into the custom scenery folders. I haven't bought any European Aerosoft payware yet, do they still have Activations/Serial keys?

Yes, you're very right - X-Plane's installation is the most trivial and less intromissive I know... And multi-platform, should you decide to go OSX or Linux :-)

Also the whole sim is all neatly placed into a folder on the desktop without any modifications to system files, Bravo Austin and Dev team. :clapping: I am having an amazing time flying the new 777 released this week and the CRJ 200 by JRollon. I feel like an idiot now for spending so much money on fsx/p3d. I should have bought XP10 first :Cry:

I feel like an idiot now for spending so much money on fsx/p3d

 

Well... I woudn't go so far Arthur...

 

but....

 

 

only to avoid making you feel so bad....

 

Now imagine me, who, after the dimiss of MS FLIGHT, still bought from GFWL FSX Gold again, after have been cured for 4 years, and even a 1 month P3D subscription....

 

Thansksfully X-Plane10 made me forget about all of those mistakes :-)

Well... I woudn't go so far Arthur...

 

but....

 

 

only to avoid making you feel so bad....

 

Now imagine me, who, after the dimiss of MS FLIGHT, still bought from GFWL FSX Gold again, after have been cured for 4 years, and even a 1 month P3D subscription....

 

Thansksfully X-Plane10 made me forget about all of those mistakes :-)

 

your right! :drinks:

Glass Half Full: The single directory, basic installation which graces X-Plane on the Windows platform is indeed a thing of beauty. It makes backing up and working with the platform that much simpler. (*and quicker to delete when you get sick of it! hah!)

 

Glass Half Empty: X-Plane addons are not the target of widespread piracy, which is why you don't see as much DRM. It's out there, but its the exception rather than the rule. If X-Plane 10 ever truly catches on and addon developers begin rolling good software out in greater volume, the demand for pirated X-Plane goods will rise in lockstep with X-Plane's popularity. Funky activations, keys, and digital rights management lockdowns should be expected as popularity of the platform grows.

Yes, you're very right - X-Plane's installation is the most trivial and less intromissive I know... And multi-platform, should you decide to go OSX or Linux :-)

 

You mean, no EULAs or nickel and diming users by requiring them to buy a key to use it on a different platform? ;-)

I actually located and reported what I think may have been one of the first, if not the first attempt to pirate XPX, all 60gigs of it.

 

No response of course; which is what made me finally decide nobody cared. If Xplane ever does become of mainstream interest, the issue of safeguards might have to be revisited.

The single directory, basic installation which graces X-Plane on the Windows platform is indeed a thing of beauty.

True, though for installing on a solid-state disk a multi-root install is actually better.

Also for a multiple-user install - currently your logbook will be overwritten, as potentially would any attempt at a persistent developing experience (should one exist)?

 

multi-platform, should you decide to go OSX or Linux

I tried a Linux install, but never got Linux to recognise the (DVD or downloaded) installer as executable. But yes, must be good.

If some of the mainstream publishers from fsx start selling xplane scenery there is no reason for them to not use their installers that have all of the activations etc.

 

At least once it is in your scenery folder its easy to back it up from there and not have to use the installer again.

Well... I woudn't go so far Arthur...

 

but....

 

 

only to avoid making you feel so bad....

 

Now imagine me, who, after the dimiss of MS FLIGHT, still bought from GFWL FSX Gold again, after have been cured for 4 years, and even a 1 month P3D subscription....

 

Thansksfully X-Plane10 made me forget about all of those mistakes :-)

 

 

 

Which mistakes???

 

FSX is alive and kicking:

 

Read the Prepar 3D announcement:

 

http://forum.avsim.n...h_lockheed.html

 

and the evolution of P3D in the P3D forum:

 

http://forum.avsim.n...prepar3d-forum/

 

 

The future is bright and now officially assured for FSX on the P3D platform, even now with version 1.4 the performance is already better than native FSX and the compability is very good.

 

With the coming version 2.0, competition between the 2 leading flightsims: FSX/P3D and Xplane 10 is already a fact and this can only be great news for the real 'serious' (not the Flight-gamer) flightsimmer !

You mean, no EULAs or nickel and diming users by requiring them to buy a key to use it on a different platform? ;-)

 

The only EULA is that you don't share it.

You can have a dual boot Windows/Linux and have X Plane installed on both and you can also have a Mac and have a 3rd installation on that.

The only DRM is that you have either a USB key plugged in or the DVD in the drive.

I have 3 installations of X Plane. 1 on my laptop, 1 on my desktop and a backup on my ext HDD.

Which mistakes???

 

FSX is alive and kicking:

 

Read the Prepar 3D announcement:

 

http://forum.avsim.n...h_lockheed.html

 

and the evolution of P3D in the P3D forum:

 

http://forum.avsim.n...prepar3d-forum/

 

 

The future is bright and now officially assured for FSX on the P3D platform, even now with version 1.4 the performance is already better than native FSX and the compability is very good.

 

With the coming version 2.0, competition between the 2 leading flightsims: FSX/P3D and Xplane 10 is already a fact and this can only be great news for the real 'serious' (not the Flight-gamer) flightsimmer !

 

Not to burst your balloon Bart, but this has a great amount of meaning;

 

from the Avsim interview with P3D

 

Question: Currently P3D has 3 "flavours": Professional, Academic and Developer. There are professional training products in the market that can also be purchased by the average "Joe Citizen" and used for self-training and on to simulation. Can you expand on your products? As a former Private Pilot and ATC (who can no longer fly or practice due to medical reasons) am I able to purchase one of your products to keep my former skills up to date in a simulation environment?

 

Martile Allen: Our end-user license agreement explains that Prepar3D can be used for purposes other than personal/consumer entertainment. Lockheed Martin does not offer Prepar3D for entertainment, and we have no plans to enter the entertainment space. Our focus is on learning and training. The bottom line is that it depends on how the software will be used. What it can’t do is support just-for-fun simming.

 

The only reason you have access to P3D for the moment is to test their software. You're not the intended client in the end.

The only reason you have access to P3D for the moment is to test their software. You're not the intended client in the end.

 

Doesn't matter. The intended purpose of P3D is............ " Our focus is on learning and training."

Which mistakes???

 

No pun intended :-) Mistakes because I should concentrate on a single platform and seriously invest in it - I know myself and I know only too well that I can't play in two or more tables at the same time... Others are lucky enough to be able to use multiple flightsims... I tend to take every experience to the limit, and a single platform requires already a bunch of entertainment free time, leaving no space/time/money for other...

 

Every platform is good. P3d v2.0 will probably become a lot more military oriented, a field that doesn't interest me really....