October 5, 201213 yr PMDG should do a Tupolev... Any model... Exactly, a very good point. There is already a very good Tu-154M which is certified for real world training available for FS2004 (and then another quality Tu-154B for FSX)... What we lack is a Tu-134 with virtual cockpit. Classic Tu-104 or Tu-124 would also be great if considered... There is Tu-204 in development. But develpment for IL-62, IL-86 and IL-96 stopped, so would be great to have an Ilyushin from PMDG.
October 6, 201213 yr As much as I would love to see a PMDG Tupolev series I doubt they will do it since there won't be a huge market for them, the Boeings and Airbus have a lot more profit potential and that is the whole point of running a business like PMDG; to pull a profit, pay your bills and employees with the money and maybe use it for fun and to expand your business. Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWKA<380 love at first flight
October 6, 201213 yr As much as I would love to see a PMDG Tupolev series I doubt they will do it since there won't be a huge market for them, the Boeings and Airbus have a lot more profit potential and that is the whole point of running a business like PMDG; to pull a profit, pay your bills and employees with the money and maybe use it for fun and to expand your business. Well... with the already many Boeing series, the americans have got their stuff. So someday, the Russian and eastern users should get theirs (not to mention western fans of Soviet/Russian aviation who also want this to happen). And Airbus is even more unlikely, since PMDG works with Boeing I think they do not want to spoil this...
October 6, 201213 yr Well... with the already many Boeing series, the americans have got their stuff. So someday, the Russian and eastern users should get theirs (not to mention western fans of Soviet/Russian aviation who also want this to happen). And Airbus is even more unlikely, since PMDG works with Boeing I think they do not want to spoil this... I just want to comment on this sentence, because I see this claim pop up regularly, i.e. that PMDG won't build an Airbus because of their relationship with Boeing. As you may be aware real Airbuses and Boeings are not built completely by those companies. Indeed many/most parts are built by subcontractors. Many of those subcontractors build for both companies. For example both Thales and Honeywell build avioncs (pitot tubes, radar altimeters, FMCs, etc) that are used on both Boeing and Airbus planes. Spirit Aerosystems builds the entire fuselage for the 737, but also builds centre fuselage frame sections for the A350. Premium Aerotec, which is an EADS (the company that owns Airbus) subsidiary builds 737 parts (flaps if i'm not mistaken). CAE builds actual level-D sims for both Boeing and Airbus aircraft, and these sims contain parts supplied by the actual manufacturers (not to mention more extensive data than PMDG presumably uses). I fail to see why anyone at Boeing would care if PMDG were to make an Airbus. Which is not to say PMDG will ever build an Airbus, they probably have several reasons they don't want to, but I highly doubt spoiling their relationship with Boeing is one of them. John-Alan Pascoe
October 6, 201213 yr I just want to comment on this sentence, because I see this claim pop up regularly, i.e. that PMDG won't build an Airbus because of their relationship with Boeing. As you may be aware real Airbuses and Boeings are not built completely by those companies. Indeed many/most parts are built by subcontractors. Many of those subcontractors build for both companies. For example both Thales and Honeywell build avioncs (pitot tubes, radar altimeters, FMCs, etc) that are used on both Boeing and Airbus planes. Spirit Aerosystems builds the entire fuselage for the 737, but also builds centre fuselage frame sections for the A350. Premium Aerotec, which is an EADS (the company that owns Airbus) subsidiary builds 737 parts (flaps if i'm not mistaken). CAE builds actual level-D sims for both Boeing and Airbus aircraft, and these sims contain parts supplied by the actual manufacturers (not to mention more extensive data than PMDG presumably uses). I fail to see why anyone at Boeing would care if PMDG were to make an Airbus. Which is not to say PMDG will ever build an Airbus, they probably have several reasons they don't want to, but I highly doubt spoiling their relationship with Boeing is one of them. It certainly will be interesting to see what they release after the 777 and 747, probably next a 787 but it could be something else. When they have almost done the Boeing family there's nothing left, except for the classics. But it happen they make something Mcdonnell Douglas such as an MD-90. While Airbus isn't impossible, it's largely unlikely. And with so many Airbuses on the market it would be strange. I still wish they make something Sovietic/Russian, or even something extremely rare such as a chinese built aircraft. That developers always make the same aircraft at the same time, isn't very good since there's a lot of airplanes not even developed. Same goes for scenery developers, can't count how many designers have made KJFK.
October 7, 201213 yr Myself, I'd love to see an IL-86 or -96 (even though only 29 have been manufactured and production has ended), It would be difficult to get info on that one. But a complete 86 would be super awesome too. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dana Palmer KJAC
October 8, 201213 yr There is Tu-204 in development. But develpment for IL-62, IL-86 and IL-96 stopped, so would be great to have an Ilyushin from PMDG. I am afraid you are misinformed. The development of a serious Tu-204 has stopped a long time ago. There has been some startups but none of the PT/PMDG variety. Meanwhile there is an Il-86 that is mostly based around PT work, not complete, but a stable beta one would say, and work on completing Il-62 to the same standart of FSX B2 is steadily underway. --Peter Fabian
October 9, 201213 yr The development of a serious Tu-204 has stopped a long time ago. There has been some startups but none of the PT/PMDG variety. Have you seen this thread over on the FS9 forums? http://forum.avsim.net/topic/368730-realise-tupolev-204-family-204214234-panning-on-jule-of-this-years/ It looks pretty nice. There's shots of different EFIS and synoptic screens, FMS , the small flight engineer panel of the Tu-204, OHP, etc. Could be promising. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dana Palmer KJAC
October 9, 201213 yr Have you seen this thread over on the FS9 forums? http://forum.avsim.n...-of-this-years/ It looks pretty nice. There's shots of different EFIS and synoptic screens, FMS , the small flight engineer panel of the Tu-204, OHP, etc. Could be promising. If he's a one man shop than that's pretty awesome work there, kinda feel like reinstalling FS9 just to fly the PT Tu-154M and this bird. Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWKA<380 love at first flight
October 9, 201213 yr I am afraid you are misinformed. The development of a serious Tu-204 has stopped a long time ago. There has been some startups but none of the PT/PMDG variety. Meanwhile there is an Il-86 that is mostly based around PT work, not complete, but a stable beta one would say, and work on completing Il-62 to the same standart of FSX B2 is steadily underway. I am not missinformed at all, actually I am the one who is making the liveries for this airplane in behalf of the author, the thread about development of plane is on avsim (Tupolev Tu-204). Actually, I never tell people false information, because that's not cool. I uploaded a shot of a Tu-154M in FS9 for you to see how rewarding the old sim is really... And here the same plane having just departed Novosibirsk. None of the screenshots are edited but I use ENB.
October 9, 201213 yr She's such a joy to fly ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dana Palmer KJAC
October 9, 201213 yr Absolutely! I can't even imagine the amount of work that went in to programming it. Yeah, the number of features dwarfs some payware add-ons. Very complex and challenging to fly, which makes it so rewarding. One of my all time favorites. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dana Palmer KJAC
October 9, 201213 yr Absolutely! I can't even imagine the amount of work that went in to programming it. Yeah, the number of features dwarfs some payware add-ons. Very complex and challenging to fly, which makes it so rewarding. One of my all time favorites. And it has no bugs, very surprising. When there is bugs it's never because of the plane. A team who makes the plane because they love it, will make a better plane than someone making it for the money A good point would be, freeware authors do not try to get money as fast as possible, meaning fixing the bugs before release ^_^
October 9, 201213 yr She's such a joy to fly Oh yea, no other aircraft including the NGX challenged me like the Tu-154M has. I've been flying that thing for a couple years now and it still manages to stump me here and there and I'm stunned that its freeware. The exterior model is stunning and the sounds are simply magnificent. She is a nice break from flying your typical Airbus or Boeing. Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWKA<380 love at first flight
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