Speaking of GA flying you guys would make a lot of us happy if you made a bizjet. Old. New. I'll take it. I'd pay $100 for one.

We don't think there's a market big enough to justify the development of one - a modern bizjet is the same level of complexity (or more) as the airliners we make pretty much.

I agree about the complexity but an older H25B hawker wouldn't require as much. Or something like a FA10 Falcon etc.

 

It could be on your "lighter" line similar to the JS41.

 

I concur market size no where near B777 but I think it would sell well enough.

How about re-releasing your 1900C/D for FSX with full system modeling? That could technically be a biz plane too. Cmon PMDG!

So you're thinking Baron? A lot more pricey to operate and slower. But it can carry more useful load for sure.

 

Well, as I said - I do have my biases based on where I live and how I flew and yes I also have a bias against 2-seat aircraft that make many passengers nervous as well, so my preference for a touring aircraft would be at least a legitimate 4 seater. Other than for training, I more typically flew with 2 or 3 passengers. An SR22 comes to mind, as the new ones are ice certified, but there are other GA's that have the gear or have been retrofitted without going all the way to a twin or turbine.

 

Now, if I really had the money, yes a small turbine like the Meridian or JetProp conversion would be the traveling platform of choice - decent speed and range, full reliable deicing, pressurized high flying, super reliable engine and all that. But you can do a true IFR platform cheaper, and I think smaller more versatile planes are more fun for general flying.

 

You should meet Keith Smith, owner of Pilot Edge. He flies a Lancair 360 commonly files IFR. Now if FSX could just get a 360!

 

I'm not saying that you can't or even shouldn't fly IFR with a Lancair, just that it doesn't make me think IFR tourer. And I'd still love to be able to climb in and fly one. ;-)

 

Scott

We don't think there's a market big enough to justify the development of one - a modern bizjet is the same level of complexity (or more) as the airliners we make pretty much.

 

I am pretty sure that if you guys made one then it would probably outsell all of the others combined.

 

G

 

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Well, as I said - I do have my biases based on where I live and how I flew and yes I also have a bias against 2-seat aircraft that make many passengers nervous as well, so my preference for a touring aircraft would be at least a legitimate 4 seater. Other than for training, I more typically flew with 2 or 3 passengers. An SR22 comes to mind, as the new ones are ice certified, but there are other GA's that have the gear or have been retrofitted without going all the way to a twin or turbine.

 

Now, if I really had the money, yes a small turbine like the Meridian or JetProp conversion would be the traveling platform of choice - decent speed and range, full reliable deicing, pressurized high flying, super reliable engine and all that. But you can do a true IFR platform cheaper, and I think smaller more versatile planes are more fun for general flying.

 

 

 

I'm not saying that you can't or even shouldn't fly IFR with a Lancair, just that it doesn't make me think IFR tourer. And I'd still love to be able to climb in and fly one. ;-)

 

 

I have no problems whatsoever with two seaters, because that's what I'm use to. I'm also very use to flying the Rocky Mountain area, and using oxygen as well. My aircraft, an RV6 isn't as fast as the Lancair, but these airplanes certainly do make good cross country machines, and many pilots use them for IFR. The "sedate" bus like stability isn't there, but we have excellent auto-pilots available for these planes, which makes all the difference.

 

L.Adamson

I've never quite understood why fast and maneouvreable aircraft are considered unsuitable for IFR. We went to quite a lot of trouble to make the Legacy as stable as the most sedate trainer if that's the way you want to fly it, especially under autopilot where its manners are impeccable. Even manually at higher altitudes it just requires a slightly more deft touch and it rewards with excellent and predictable manners.

 

It is solely the pattern and take off and landing that need care but not dramatically so as you do have spoilers if you need them plus quite powerful flaps. It's true that things happen about 15 to 20 knots "quicker" around airfields compared with slower GA aircraft, but once you are above 2000 that doesn't make any difference.

 

All the best,

 

Rob - RealAir

yes I also have a bias against 2-seat aircraft that make many passengers nervous as well

 

lol...

 

I have no problems whatsoever with two seaters, because that's what I'm use to.

 

100,000 AVSIM members and guess who was the first I thought of after the above ttocs post...

 

 

I've never quite understood why fast and maneouvreable aircraft are considered unsuitable for IFR.

 

It's just "bar-room chit-chat" Rob.

 

The RealAir Lancair... anyone who has it can attest to it being a sweet aircraft. And if you're semi-proficient on your instrument scan, hand-flying to ILS minimums is not going to be a problem.

 

My only "beef" with it... at TBO it goes to Victor for a balanced and blueprinted Black Edition.

It's just "bar-room chit-chat" Rob.

 

The RealAir Lancair... anyone who has it can attest to it being a sweet aircraft. And if you're semi-proficient on your instrument scan, hand-flying to ILS minimums is not going to be a problem

 

Indeed. Have done so many times and enjoyed it. Bar-room attendance and semi-proficiency notwithstanding. :-)

 

Love the model RealAir has done and fly it in the sim IFR more often than not. Still wouldn't characterize the real plane as an "IFR tourer". IFR capable? Sure. An all weather, IFR tourer? No.

 

I have no problems whatsoever with two seaters, because that's what I'm use to.

 

I don't really have a problem with them either, but some of my passengers would have and my use model was different as I typically flew with more than 1 passenger (and still would if I were actively flying). Those comments were clearly labeled as personal biases, based on the way I flew and my passengers level of confidence in small GA planes. Many of the people I've flown wouldn't have set foot in a Lancair, albeit for reasons not entirely logical.

 

Some of you are trying to make way more of what I've said than was intended, but have at. :-) To be clear though, none of what I've said is a slight in any way on the RealAir model which I own and enjoy.

 

Scott

Still wouldn't characterize the real plane as an "IFR tourer".

 

I still have no idea what this term "IFR tourer" means...

Is there room in the VC for an RXP GNS530 and a WX500 in the Legacy? If so, will that work with the 3d knobs? Or an GNX430 and WX500? I love me some weather radar in every small prop I fly. (Not to mention still upset PMDG can't model it, even semi realistically...)

I still have no idea what this term "IFR tourer" means...

 

It means Scott's Awesome Plane!!!

 

 

Is there room in the VC for an RXP GNS530 and a WX500 in the Legacy? If so, will that work with the 3d knobs? Or an GNX430 and WX500? I love me some weather radar in every small prop I fly. (Not to mention still upset PMDG can't model it, even semi realistically...)

 

Not the Wx radar. The GNS430W and/or 530W will go into the VC with 3d knobs. They will even crossfill with the unlimited pack from RXP. You gotta get this plane

 

You gotta get this plane

 

Agreed. This thread has reminded me that I haven't flown the Legacy since purchasing the RXP GNS430. Shame on me! The design of the VC in accepting whichever RXP GNS units you might have is something to be admired. Man this is such a nice plane. I fall in love with it every time I fly it!

Call me stupid but... it will be weird flying that airplane with my yoke... Just had to replace all my cooling and fans so the end of the month I will buy it. She looks beautiful. I really love the Turbine Duke too.