March 15, 201313 yr Commercial Member Just a heads up, flight 5 is up and it's a really good one, I really enjoyed it and I'm pleased with it, I learnt alot :-) Poor Jason couldn't have got worse weather if he tried, but he acted calmy and professionally (....and well I won't spoil the surprise). He does a fantastic job, huh?! For now ... I'll wait. I'm pretty curious about the ground work though ... no one have called into question the quality of that aspect of the 737 treatment.It was also good to see Chris jump in here. Most well managed companies do not become enraged with negative criticism ... they put in place measures to address those issues and become better at what they do. Thanks for the compliment here. I really do want to change AOA for the better, and I see myself as a humble person that is willing to change and improve continually. I'm attaching an example of GroundWork, so you can see it in action yourself. Jump forward to about 3:20 to see some of the more advanced animations and graphics we provide. I purposely chose what can often be a BORING section, to show you how interesting it can be with our tools and production quality. I can't be in all places at once. If you see someone is having an issue with an Angle of Attack product, or something that should be brought to my attention, please message me. I want everyone to have a stellar experience with AOA. Thanks so much! Chris Palmer Founder/President Angle of Attack
March 15, 201313 yr Commercial Member I feel I have to point out one glaring fact unless I missed it along the way through all these pages. Last time I checked, I have never seen a commercial airliner flight without a FO. And last time I checked they dont hire robots. They are all humans. On the point of making mistakes, there is a reason it is a two man crew. If one makes a mistake the other can pick up on it, and figure it out. Goes for both Captain and FO. If you watch Just Planes videos they are constantly in agreement and verified. So if an erroneous thing is put into the FMC and things are not making sense, you have two heads to figure out whats going on. These videos and all us simmers are flying as single pilots. Not in a cessna, in a Boeing aircraft or of the like meant for two. So this goes back to the MD11 videos which I thought were fantastic. Learned a hell of a lot. But comparing them now to the current 737 flightwork videos, the point of it being live makes it that much better. Scripted is great but its perfect in an imperfect world. When you go to school, at least back in my day, the teacher purposely did things wrong to see who picks up on things and why and tackle them from there. The point is that is how we learn the best. And you can bet Boeing is learning from engineering mistakes of the 787. The next time we will do things differently because we will have retained it better. Just saw Jasons Flight 5 video and its a handful. Again it comes to the point of a missing FO, but he was very professional in keeping calm. In a simulator in particular and in this case the weather not playing nice with different updates is our simulation world not being exactly as the real world. Even then Jason did an outstanding job of figuring things out in what was a dire situation. If it was scripted this would have gone all perfectly planned out and that doesnt happen in RW. Add in ATC which he didnt have on this flight and things are different again. You will not get this kind of indepth on a youtube video. Thanks for the hardwork, owning up to mistakes, but teaching that we learn from mistakes and adapt to the situation at hand. These are not the kind that send us into the ground, they are there to make us better pilots. Its why Real World pilots have to go and refresh to dire circumstances at a real simulator, and ive seen them coming out of there sweating. Look forward to 777 training. This is fun. Read your whole post, but only wanted to quote this particular part. Thanks so much! You're right- the single pilot environment is extremely difficult. I've mentioned several times that I have to do that, film, keep the production value up, teach, and FLY. It's actually too much, and not very safe. But it's what we have to do. I'm really glad that you enjoy our live training style. I think it's what we're going to be doing in the future, albeit, highly improved from what we're doing now. And honestly, I think we have great quality now. I just want to always be doing better. Thanks again for your wonderful words and support! I'm glad everyone is enjoying Flight #5. The first 4 flights were meant to be quite basic yet thorough. You're out of the basics now. It's time to put the big boy pants on! I can't be in all places at once. If you see someone is having an issue with an Angle of Attack product, or something that should be brought to my attention, please message me. I want everyone to have a stellar experience with AOA. Thanks so much! Chris Palmer Founder/President Angle of Attack
March 15, 201313 yr I purposely chose what can often be a BORING section, to show you how interesting it can be with our tools and production quality. As usual Chris, a high quality presentation far beyond that of other net presentations found on the net. Regards Geoff Bryce
October 22, 201312 yr I'm so p..... off with this company. I payed for the captain's package and can't watch flights 7 and 8 (it states I don't have access) Already sent support ticket 2 times and had no response. Very frustrating. They'll have to make me a very good discount if they want me to buy any other training lesson. Sincerely Sergio SN737
October 22, 201312 yr You have to pay extra for those two flights if u want to have them. 15$ I think. Sent from my Lumia 900 using Tapatalk Ivan Majetic ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO; 7900X3D; NZXT KRAKEN ELITE 360, GIGABYTE RTX 4080; G.SKILL TridentZ NEO RGB DDR5 64 Gb, WD HDD 2TB, SAMSUNG 980PRO, SAMSUNG 970EVO Plus 2x, ALIENWARE 3423DWF
October 22, 201312 yr You have to pay extra for those two flights if u want to have them. 15$ I think. :blink: Shouldn't that already be included in the purchase price?
October 22, 201312 yr Nope, these new flights will cost extra. Sent from my Lumia 900 using Tapatalk Ivan Majetic ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO; 7900X3D; NZXT KRAKEN ELITE 360, GIGABYTE RTX 4080; G.SKILL TridentZ NEO RGB DDR5 64 Gb, WD HDD 2TB, SAMSUNG 980PRO, SAMSUNG 970EVO Plus 2x, ALIENWARE 3423DWF
October 22, 201312 yr Wow !!! They aren't getting a single penny more from me for sure. I thought the Captain's package included everything there was for the 737 NGX training Sincerely Sergio SN737
October 23, 201312 yr Edited thought you were referring to the flight work and not the line work flights 7 and 8 I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
October 23, 201312 yr I'm waiting for airline2sim (taught by a real 737 captain) to compare. Soarbywire - Avionics Engineering
October 24, 201312 yr I'm waiting for airline2sim (taught by a real 737 captain) to compare. +10000 Be good to have different videos and viewpoints by different groups of people Maybe they could also coax a retired Concorde pilot to help create one for the FSL bird
October 24, 201312 yr Yes Pete, sorry I was referring to Linework flights 7 and 8 No worries the only thing I can think of is the reasoning behind the extra cost is that when we originally bought the package for example say there was only 8 flight etc which we paid for. and than they decided to add a extra 2 or so flights on as extras which wasn't included in the original package. I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
October 24, 201312 yr airline2sim looks interesting Ivan Majetic ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO; 7900X3D; NZXT KRAKEN ELITE 360, GIGABYTE RTX 4080; G.SKILL TridentZ NEO RGB DDR5 64 Gb, WD HDD 2TB, SAMSUNG 980PRO, SAMSUNG 970EVO Plus 2x, ALIENWARE 3423DWF
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