Sure let's keeping waiting for PMDG 777. [. . .] We have waited long enough from a so called top developer [. . .] If you don't have the time, money, and resources to do something right and within an acceptable time frame (say< 8-12 months), then don't bother 

 [. . .] Airbus and Boeing take only about 4-6 months to build a real gigantic fully functional airplane, and these flight sim "developers" are taking up to 4 years to complete a mini piece of dancing graphics..why? Not enough skills? Only a 1 or 2 man corporation? Or is it worked only on Easter Sunday? Maybe!

Sorry, but this is ridiculous. I understand your frustration, but please carefully evaluate your statements before posting. 

PMDG has demonstrated that it possesses the financial and intellectual resources as well as the passion required to produce high-quality FSX aircraft.

The time that should be taken to model a high-quality B777 (and the definition of an "acceptable time frame") should be made by one who fully understands the complexities of the software design process, such as a developer (most likely not you).

PMDG most likely considers and tries to balance perceived customer impatience with the quality of its initial releases.

Economic, social, scientific, and technological progress would slow if all delayed/long-term projects were cancelled, and many modern real-world aircraft would not exist.

Tom addressed your Airbus/Boeing point well.

 

Agreed. Johnny767, that was a laughable post, really "ignore list" worthy.

 

 

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.If you don't have the time, money, and resources to do something right and within an acceptable time frame (say< 8-12 months), then don't bother. If you are going to take 4- 5 years something is really wrong..Either you simply don't have the manpower or skills to get it done correctly...Orr, you simply enjoy to build-up a flashy hype.

Johnny, that is bollocks,and you know that. :Rolling Eyes:

I understand what you're saying, that was my thinking too. But go through the tutorial once and you'll be good to go. Then if you want you can dig deeper through the various systems when you're at cruise and bored, but it's not necessary.

 

Ugh... I guess I'll take the plunge, and I've been eyeing the NGX for some time now. I'll always be an Airbus guy though. Not a huge fan of the Boeing line minus the 75.

 

 

Know of any well regarded tutorials via YT or elsewhere?

Ugh... I guess I'll take the plunge, and I've been eyeing the NGX for some time now. I'll always be an Airbus guy though. Not a huge fan of the Boeing line minus the 75.

 

 

Know of any well regarded tutorials via YT or elsewhere?

 

I don't do them as tutorials, and don't intend them be such, but I have a few full flight videos from Cold & dark startup to Shutdown, on my youtube channel, which may give you an idea of how they are operated. I've done them for the PMDG 737NGX, CS757 and 777, and the Aerosoft Airbus A320X. Another youtube channel to look up, is "Frooglesim" he does some as reviews, (He also has one of the XP10 B777) They are very detailed.

I don't do them as tutorials, and don't intend them be such, but I have a few full flight videos from Cold & dark startup to Shutdown, on my youtube channel, which may give you an idea of how they are operated. I've done them for the PMDG 737NGX, CS757 and 777, and the Aerosoft Airbus A320X. Another youtube channel to look up, is "Frooglesim" he does some as reviews, (He also has one of the XP10 B777) They are very detailed.

 

I've gotten the Aerosoft Buses C&D procedures, FMC, etc, down pat. But I'll certainly take a look at the NGX videos you got.

 

Cheers

I've gotten the Aerosoft Buses C&D procedures, FMC, etc, down pat. But I'll certainly take a look at the NGX videos you got.

 

Cheers

 Be sure to have the popcorn ready :LOL: They are long videos!!

 Be sure to have the popcorn ready :lol: They are long videos!!

 

No worries, that doesn't bother me one bit.

 

I have a rather large following on YT, and you might get a massive influx of hits if I comment. Sometimes trolls will accompany me... I can't do anything about it. Just FYI on that.

blahyaddayadda, I have no idea what I'm talking about, yaddaya!

 

Fixed your post for you.

Fixed your post for you.

 

Muwahahah!

 

 

Sure let's keeping waiting for PMDG 777. The question during all this time has been: "For how long are we going to wait?" Another 3 years or 2 years? We have waited long enough from a so called top developer...The same goes for FSL...If you don't have the time, money, and resources to do something right and within an acceptable time frame (say< 8-12 months), then don't bothe

 

The difference is that the end result will be something very realistic and worth flying while CS 777 is something that I already uninstalled when even the v1.1 proved to be just another unfinished pretty model with little system depth and bad flight dynamics.

 

You probably have no idea about how long modeling complex systems, flight dynamics and everything else accurately truly takes. CS gets their models out quickly only because they aren't making their systems that accurately (I bet they recycle most of their system stuff from their previous projects), never finish some of the stuff promised and never fix all the bugs.

Thanks for the response gents. As for PMDG, well, I don't actually own any of their products. The learning curve is far too much for me where it concerns the actual free time to sit down and get to know the systems. Hell, the user manuals are the actual manuals for the aircraft.

 

You will be surprised how much easier the plane is to use when it works properly. 

 

     Sure let's keeping waiting for PMDG 777. The question during all this time has been: "For how long are we going to wait?" Another 3 years or 2 years? We have waited long enough from a so called top developer...The same goes for FSL...If you don't have the time, money, and resources to do something right and within an acceptable time frame (say< 8-12 months), then don't bother. If you are going to take  4- 5 years something is really wrong..Either you simply don't have the manpower or skills to get it  done correctly...Orr, you simply enjoy to build-up  a flashy hype.

 

      Airbus and Boeing take only about 4-6 months to build a real gigantic fully functional airplane, and these flight sim "developers" are taking up to 4 years to complete a mini piece of dancing graphics..why? Not enough skills? Only a 1 or 2 man corporation? Or is it worked only on Easter Sunday? Maybe!

 

Wow really.....  What does the time needed to build a actual plane  using thousands of employees and multiple assembly lines have to do with programming and modeling a sim?  Not that it has anything to do with FS but it takes a decade or more to go from drawing board to first deliveries for new aircraft models.   

 

You are the perfect CS customer.... I think you should just stick to CS planes and leave the real sims to people that understand why it takes a few years to make them.

 

 

Who cares if it's incomplete, does not fly right and is frustratingly bad  as long as you get something that looks like a 777 right?  

 

Thankfully the developers of the top quality study level planes (PMDG,FSL,MAJESTIC and IXEG) don't listen to "stuff" like this. 

You can complete your research on the '777 Captain' up to and including current version 1.1 here:

 

 

http://forum.avsim.n...the-boeing-777/

 

http://forum.avsim.n...n-released-but/

 

http://forum.avsim.n...-with-cs777-11/

 

http://forum.avsim.n...on-11-released/

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/403467-so-dissapointed-in-captain-sim-777/

 

 

 

'Nuff said ...

As a simming platform, FSX is unfinished and fundamentally broken.

 

So my hats off to any developer like PMDG that can make such high quality add-ons for it.

As a simming platform, FSX is unfinished and fundamentally broken.

 

So my hats off to any developer like PMDG that can make such high quality add-ons for it.

 

 Will you give it a rest!!!

You know at the beginning I was on the fence with captain sims 777..Ya maybe wait, go to their site everyday to check for updates and now I agree with most of you's they don't finish their products or at least fix their bug's I don't why.. something is really wrong at captain sim's camp...and the funny thing is in my opinion is this 777 showed 

some promise..anyways maybe they will get their act together and start listening to their paying customers.