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How good is it? Is it more or less as good as it can be in FSX? Does it use the FBW that the 777 uses?

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If you really want it as good as it gets, I'd suggest you to be patient and wait for the PMDG 777. I don't own the CS, but from what I've heard, and from my own experience with other CS aircraft I think it's not bad, but most likely not worth the price.

 

Here are two (probably?) similar topics:

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/376333-captainsim-777/

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/399526-captainsim-777/

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They are supposed to put out an update last month that never was released,until that happens it is flyable, but with a lot of trial and error! If you don't mind a boat load of bugs go ahead & knock yourself out. You should wait till PMDG drops theirs, I don't own any of their products, but I have heard they are top shelf developer!

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Hope you don't mind me saying this, Florian, but even hardcore CS'ers rate the 777 below other CS planes.

 

Just a quick look here: http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1367199240

 

No offence intended, though ...

No offence taken, as said I don't own it as I think it's way overpriced (and I'm definitely not a long haul guy -_-), and I also don't really follow the CS aircraft threads here with too much attention, so my (obviously most likely wrong) opinion is based only on a few others (like the Hercules).

Anyway, thanks for pointing it out, I definitely do not want to trick anyone into buyint anything.

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(...) I definitely do not want to trick anyone into buyint anything.

 

 

Be assured, I know that, Florian, and you mentioned already that it's overpriced anyway ...

 

... Let's all talk him into buying PMDG!!!   :lol:

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Bought it, sat in the cockpit once, performance was marginal to bad, deinstalled, never looked at it again. The model looks outstanding, not question. 

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They are supposed to put out an update last month that never was released,until that happens it is flyable, but with a lot of trial and error! If you don't mind a boat load of bugs go ahead & knock yourself out. You should wait till PMDG drops theirs, I don't own any of their products, but I have heard they are top shelf developer!

My feeling is they were under pressure from the public to speak up about updates. So they did. Weather the had any intention of releasing the update in May........? Sure glad I never wasted my money on this one.

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Even if it was the best plane that CS has ever made, when PMDG releases their masterpiece, the CS version will probably go to the Mojave desert, unless they put out a "home run" service pack, between now and then.

I really like flying the 777 Worldliner in X-Plane 64bit, but looking at their cockpit, it's obvious that they took just a little artistic license when putting it together. At any rate, it does have good systems modeled.

The PMDG 777 will be mind blowing and quickly be a hard act to follow for any developer.

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Even if it was the best plane that CS has ever made, when PMDG releases their masterpiece, the CS version will probably go to the Mojave desert, unless they put out a "home run" service pack, between now and then.

I really like flying the 777 Worldliner in X-Plane 64bit, but looking at their cockpit, it's obvious that they took just a little artistic license when putting it together. At any rate, it does have good systems modeled.

The PMDG 777 will be mind blowing and quickly be a hard act to follow for any developer.

The upcoming 1.2 service pack is said to include a weather in addition to a terrain radar. Depending on how well those are implemented and if they fix the way they implemented VNAV, will determine it's success or overall failure. It's not bad for those that purchased it at development at a reduced price (like me) or better those that got it with their 9.99 sale. In it's current state (ver 1.1) I wouldn't recommend it at full price, until we find out just how well (or bad) ver 1.2 is. BTW though CS normally has another 9.99Euro sale around this time of year, but I haven't heard anything yet about it. At that price I would recommend it. I have a video of her on my youtube channel below if you like to see what she's like to fly!

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Even if it was the best plane that CS has ever made, when PMDG releases their masterpiece, the CS version will probably go to the Mojave desert, unless they put out a "home run" service pack, between now and then.

 

CS's business strategy is to release a lite 777 ASAP and hope that PMDG will keep delaying their offering for as long as possible until "it's ready". The more PMDG takes their time in creating perfection the more people will just give up and buy the CS 777, especially if CS manages to pull off the impossible and patch the addon to a reasonable standard.

 

People think the PMDG 777 will be released very soon, but what if the release doesn't happen until 2014? or 2015? PMDG usually releases a few Youtube videos a few months before release, and for the 777 this hasn't happened yet.

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People think the PMDG 777 will be released very soon, but what if the release doesn't happen until 2014? or 2015? PMDG usually releases a few Youtube videos a few months before release, and for the 777 this hasn't happened yet.

 

I remember someone from PMDG saying the 777 is pretty much ready by now, they just seem to be adjusting some last minor things before release. No way the release could be that much further away.

 

Most of those who bought CS stuff will buy PMDG anyway as it's obviously going to be quite superior, at least for those who are interested in proper flight dynamics and systems.

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If pmdg don't release their 777 by Christmas, I could by the cs one but only for the 9.99 sale.

 

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I remember someone from PMDG saying the 777 is pretty much ready by now, they just seem to be adjusting some last minor things before release. No way the release could be that much further away.

 

Most of those who bought CS stuff will buy PMDG anyway as it's obviously going to be quite superior, at least for those who are interested in proper flight dynamics and systems.

 

 

I will be buying the PMDG 777 as soon as they put it out on the shelf, but right now I am enjoying flying the CS777.  It has flaws, some a little more serious, but it is not bad, it's just that PMDG's will be at a level of realism that is attainable only by very few developers.

I think from the standard of normal, high end (work in progress) FSX releases, the CS 777 is acceptable and fun to fly, and with a few more patches would be quite good, assuming they really are still working on it.

If PMDG were not making a Boeing 777 at all, I would be very satisfied with Captain Sim's product. 

If it were a Boeing 787, that PMDG was about to release, most everyone would be happy to have Captain Sim's 777.  I know I would.

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I remember someone from PMDG saying the 777 is pretty much ready by now, they just seem to be adjusting some last minor things before release. No way the release could be that much further away.

 

Maybe. But what seems to happen with those folks (God Bless them) is that a product is just about near release and then someone finds an issue they absolutely must fix before it is "ready" and the cycle begins anew. Like just happened in May with the cockpit VC textures. Looks like the cost 2 months time right there. It's anybody's guess when it will be released.

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Maybe. But what seems to happen with those folks (God Bless them) is that a product is just about near release and then someone finds an issue they absolutely must fix before it is "ready" and the cycle begins anew. Like just happened in May with the cockpit VC textures. Looks like the cost 2 months time right there. It's anybody's guess when it will be released.

 

People often forget that the 777 turned out to be a bit more complex than PMDG had initially realized, IIRC Rob had stated that they had to pull development of the DC-6 (Remember the DC-6 was initially due before the 777) in order to throw more resources into the 777. With this reasoning we can reasonably expect the possibility of further delays, perhaps into 2014. They say they don't have a release date but trust me any good project-driven enterprise will have some sort of an internal deadline, and Rob will be keeping a close eye on the 777 Gantt charts in Microsoft Project 2010.

 

With regards to the VC textures, for me I really don't mind how the back of the cockpit look, as I don't fly the 777 via the jumpseat. It would look awkward anyway with 2 empty seats at the front. (I just don't get how we can't have a 3D model of a copilot, perhaps as an option. My rig is powerful enough for the FPS hit and other developers like Coolsky are throwing polys into unnecessary things like 3D circuit breakers.)

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I think from the standard of normal, high end (work in progress) FSX releases, the CS 777 is acceptable and fun to fly, and with a few more patches would be quite good, assuming they really are still working on it.

If PMDG were not making a Boeing 777 at all, I would be very satisfied with Captain Sim's product. 

 

Hi Robert,

How would you compare the CS777 comapred to the QW 757, for system depth and flyability? Thanks, Bruce.

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Bought it from day one right through to v1.1 visually great, flyable not really the udates kept coming but the dynamics didn't eye candy only uninstalled to never see my hard drive again wait for the PMDG777 you know you want to.

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