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Hi guy's, has anyone used or have the A330 from Black Box Simulations? If there is is it worth the purchase and the download.

 

Cheers Rod.

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If you want system fidelity,I've heard good reports about it from FLEX1978,but looking at youtube videos the vc isn't 

so good.Sorry,thought you meant A320 

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I have it. It's a superb add-on. I was sceptical about getting it at first. Took a gamble and it paid off.

 

Yes the VC isnt PMDG but it's certainly flyable and a nice environment.

Of you do get it don't forget to unlock the steering on the tiller!! ;)

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I don't purchase BBS products because places that sell their products to people before they are 100% finished seem a little risky to me, there isn't any guarantee that they will finish and there isn't any reason why they wouldn't, but it's still concerning. They haven't even finished their A320 series! Captain Sim is following suit now as well [but that shouldn't be mentioned here otherwise we get a Captain Sim discussion!]

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  • Personally, I don't think I'll ever understand why some people part with their hard earned money on an unfinished product?  Do they buy everything of this status?

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I was looking at getting these as I would love to have a A330. But after the Airsimmer advance experience I'll never buy a beta again. But I'll be looking at buying these once they get to full release.  

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Hi, I have the A320 but not yet the A330 (went broke after my long summer holiday trip LOL).

Anyway, some thought about BBS overall:

1) It is being developed towards its "extreme edition" (which aims at hardcore simmers). But just to make clear that I found that at current stage what it is offering is pretty darn flyable and enjoyable.

2) Honestly if you are a new customer and quite skeptical about the "prologue" business model, then I think you can wait for upcoming version 0.8, which they claim to have: 1) brand new virtual cockpit model and improvement on the external model as well, 2) brand new MFD displays with more competent rendering technique or something (sorry I am not a techie :D), 3) improvement further on the FDE, autotrim and flight envelop protection.... then you can decide then...

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I don't buy BSS products either as quality is not great at all. You should try the Aerosoft Airbus.....Its a lot more fun and its beautiful :)

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I don't buy BSS products either as quality is not great at all. You should try the Aerosoft Airbus.....Its a lot more fun and its beautiful :)

Sorry but you dont buy it so how you can say quality is not great at all LOL...

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I don't buy BSS products either as quality is not great at all. You should try the Aerosoft Airbus.....Its a lot more fun and its beautiful :)

 

 

I DO like the Aerosoft Airbus (see my banner!), but the BBS version seems to have a more consistent approach towards modelling systems (maintaining a certain degree of system depth all over the flightdeck). The Aerosoft version is surprisingly (and, IMO, annoyingly, inconsistent with that.

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I DO like the Aerosoft Airbus (see my banner!), but the BBS version seems to have a more consistent approach towards modelling systems (maintaining a certain degree of system depth all over the flightdeck). The Aerosoft version is surprisingly (and, IMO, annoyingly, inconsistent with that.

If you gladly pay the FULL R&D cost for such extra system fidelity, I will be happy to include such features.

 

While making such comments, bear in mind that we do not have much code to recycle on, while other products have an incredible amount of code to recycle as a solid base.

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If you gladly pay the FULL R&D cost for such extra system fidelity, I will be happy to include such features.

 

You've been including a selected few of them anyway, slowly and steadily. Appreciated, especially after v1.10.

While making such comments, bear in mind that we do not have much code to recycle on, while other products have an incredible amount of code to recycle as a solid base.

Which adds to my admiration (starting with the FBW mod for the AX). Remember: You (Joshua) build 'em 'cause I (Oliver) can't!!!   ^_^ 

 

The suggestion posted above was to dump the BBS in favour of the AAX ... for the fun and for its beauty. There are pros and cons to that suggestion based on those arguments, IMO ...   B) 

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Once the Airbus Extended started navigating properly, i had no doubts to ditch the BBS A320 series. Same will happen with the A330 for sure.

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Arghh, yet another topic about the bus :D. So hard, because both have their pros and cons.....

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I have the A330 and enjoy it a lot.  

The cockpit is really good, but just not the best of today's standards.

Some of the systems, like ADIRU, are not functional, but enough systems work to have the good Airbus experience on a normal and stable flight between city pairs.

It's common knowledge that it is a work in progress, but it is very nice to fly. It has been worth the money for me, because I fly it a lot.

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Im sorry to say this like this, but the corn on my big toe is worth more than the BBS a330. I looked at all the youtube videos and read all the reviews i could find, but nothing prepared me for the aggressive/abrupt behavior of the autopilot and other things.

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Any idea if they have fixed the random roll problem with the A330 (plane panking from left to right and back for no apparent reason)?

 

Because of that I went back to Wilco A330, I don't know if I should now return to BBS A330 or just wait for Aerosoft one. To me it doesn't seem like BBS has got the fly by wire and autopilot behavior done properly yet,. 

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They're working on it now, but 0.76 is much better than the previous version regarding that matter.

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I use their A330 and 320, and I am not the greatest fan of them. My main problems are with the look of the exterior models which I feel do not meet the standards of 2013 gaming, with excellent exterior models like the Aerosoft Airbus A320. The VC systems are pretty good...for the most part. ANother complaint I have, though, is though BBS has done many paints, there is a lot of paints missing for some of the biggest airlines and Airbus users.

 

Bottom line, if you really like Airbus and are willing to spend a little bit of time to learn how BBS VC's function, go for it by all means!

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I bought the BBS A330 at v0.6 and whilst it's ok in some areas, the jerky unpredictable AP behaviour is offputting, as is the general lower quality of things like sound ambience etc.

 

My advice would be not to buy the BBS at anything below v1.0.

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"OK" guys, mixed feelings I see as I certainly don't want to fall into the trap as i did with the **777 (DUMPED IT) as one would say, but I feel there just isn't a decent 330 out there so the waiting game continues. Thanks for the input.

 

Cheers Rod.

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As flashy & as beautiful looking Aerosoft's models look like they still don't have the same system simulation the BBS A320 & A330 include and Aerosoft made it well known that they are not aiming to make a fully functional plane. BBS on the other hand have set their goals on that type of simulation. They may sell their products in a similar fashion to Captain Sim but some things that are different between the two is that...

 

1. They constantly push out updates.

2. The support they provide is outstanding.

3. They listen to every single customers concerns and needs along with taking our opinions into account. (The reasonable ones atleast).

4. Both the A320 & A330 is fully flyable at the moment with nearly zero issues on most systems.

5. If there was somehow an issue you can guarantee they will help you to fix it.

6. These guys have a future that looks bright.

7. Major overhauls of both BBS (A320 & A330) models are coming out in the very near future.

8. The progress a 2 man team (BBS) made in a few months compared to a team like Aerosoft (with its extensive resources, reputation, & background) is kinda outstanding. 
9. They also have some good references, (They were called PSS at one time in the past)

 

All in all, don't necessarily take what some of the people on this forum are saying seriously without doing your own resource. I have both planes and while I do enjoy them both I truly believe the BBS provides a better simulation and value compared to the Aerosoft Airbus X. I honestly could have not thought of a better company to spend my money on for an Airbus Simulation. But of course people will still go with what they know... sometimes its better to go and try something different because you might be surprised. [little story] I was going to buy OPUS but shortly before my purchase I heard about FS Global Real Weather. I had no idea what it was like compared to the award winning OPUS weather engine but I decided to try both demos and decide from there. Well it was still really hard to decide but I decided to go against the current and buy FSGlobal Real Weather. I honestly can say I don't regret it.

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