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Virgin Australia & Qantas in Adelaide Incident

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Yeh, only 260kg sloshing about in each tanks, you're talking 5-6 minutes fuel, if you're lucky. If you pitch up you're engine's flamed out... Not a happy position to be in...  :mellow:

 

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Ró.

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Jeez, no matter how much I fly plane crashes still creep me out, especially when my aunt lives in Adelaide and shes coming to visit in a week or so.

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The virgin jet was flown by a very senior Captain, word is he was truly scared but performed admirably.

 

Someone in the planning section got his rear end kicked.

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The virgin jet was flown by a very senior Captain, word is he was truly scared but performed admirably.

 

Someone in the planning section got his rear end kicked.

Indeed, very admirable to let the jet with less endurance go ahead of you even when you yourself are low. He deserves a commendation.

 

Regards,

Ró.

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Is  this  the  same incident  as last  months incident  with  another  virgin aircraft

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Is  this  the  same incident  as last  months incident  with  another  virgin aircraft

Yes, it happened just over a month ago.

 

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Ró.

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Ah yes, I just read about this on the dispatcher forums.

 

1 degree temp/dew point spread and calm winds should have been a consideration, even though the fog wasn't technically forecasted. Glad everyone ended up in one piece. They didn't even have enough to go around! Yikes.

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No HUGS for VA. Doubt it would've been helpful, other than providing marginally greater situational awareness.

 

VA crew are to be commended. Quite a polite thing to allow the QF crew through knowing their position, with respect to fuel. Something tells me the QF crew threw their weight around by declaring that fuel was an issue for them, instead of first declaring how much fuel they had on board, and how much time it equated to with FFR in tact.

 

Brian Nellis.

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Happened in Perth either last year YPPH or 2011 when we had a storm where winds were not of a good runway direction. Had one aircraft do a go-around and I think he had one chance left......he made it.....just.

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Here are the links to Virgin 697 that had one last attempt....you can listen to the ATC and there is even a video of the 738 making an aborted landing on RWY 06....which I know well.

 

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/12699561/airliner-s-mid-air-drama-revealed/

 

http://www.6pr.com.au/blogs/6pr-perth-blog/video-mid-air-drama-revealed/20120124-1qeyx.html

Yeh, only 260kg sloshing about in each tanks, you're talking 5-6 minutes fuel, if you're lucky. If you pitch up you're engine's flamed out... Not a happy position to be in... :mellow:

 

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Ró.

Ro,

What is the fuel burn of the A330-300? As far as I can remember it is something like 5.6 tonne an hour? What would be the 737-800 burn rate?

 

Daniel

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737-800 is roughly 2200-2400kg/hr if I recall correctly.

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Ró,

What is the fuel burn of the A330-300? As far as I can remember it is something like 5.6 tonne an hour? What would be the 737-800 burn rate?

 

Daniel

 

It depends on a number of things, weight, atmospheric conditions, altitude, whether you're climbing, cruising, descending or holding.

 

In the case of holding, a rough figure for the -300 would be in and around 2,600-2,900 kg for 1/2 an hour.

For the 737CLs we used take a figure of 1,200kg per half hour, so I'd assume the NGs would be somewhere close to that, I'm not entirely sure of the exact fuel savings they brought about.

 

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Ró.

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Thanks Ro,

 

I think it was the approximate value of the flight (total amount divided by flight trip time) on an A330-300 on CPA between YPPH and VHHH.

 

 

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Daniel

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Scary stuff:

http://avherald.com/h?article=46588ddb&opt=0

http://avherald.com/h?article=465890d1&opt=0

 

Being forced to chose between descending below MDA or running out of fuel must have made for one really stressful day in the office! :O

 

Regards,

Ró.

Just got a photo, the crew are receiving awards (Virgin Stars of the Year) by Sir Richard Branson at a ceremony in the UK.

 

Well done that crew and great recognition by their employer.

 

Sent from my Mobile thing

 

 

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Indeed, very admirable to let the jet with less endurance go ahead of you even when you yourself are low. He deserves a commendation.

 

Regards,

Ró.

If I remember correctly there was some miscommunication, the Virgin jet actually had less fuel, but they thought they had more than the Qantas plane.

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