July 30, 201312 yr Right now i get about 30fps while on the ground and 40-50fps while in the air on mostly high or max settings. I am planning to get the 777 but i dont know how much fps i will get. If i lower my settings would it be possible for me to get 20 or higher fps with the pmdg 777? Here are my specs: -intel core i3 370m 2.4ghz -nvidia geforce gt 425m -4gb of ram -windows 7 home premium -500gb ddr drive I would be more than happy running the 777 with 20fps or more. Do you think it would be possible if i lower my settings? Thanks, Karlo I am quite surprised to hear that someone has good performance on an i3 ! Is this over default FSX scenery? Cause I would be even more surprised if you get these frame rates over Aerosoft airports! Also, it all depends what you mean by good too. Some are happy when frames are 20 - 30 fps. Others want not a single stutter or hickup (me) (which is impossible by the way, but with my i7 3770k and GTX680 combo I got pretty close to that :-) ) By the way, hyperthreading is not used by FSX. It is not programmed for it. Which is why when you overclock a PC, you want to turn hyperthreading off in the bios. This prevents the CPU from heating up unnecessarily. Rob Robson
July 30, 201312 yr Commercial Member Since this aircraft is so beautifully designed i think i am going to purchase it if it is not too expensive since it looks way better than the captain sim 777. I am running fsx on a laptop so i dont think i can upgrade to a i5 Also my i3 370m has hyperthreading wich adds 2 virtual cores wich i think makes a difference Hyperthreading doesn't actually do much for most game-type applications. Most people who overclock turn it off because it generates so much extra heat - you can get higher clockspeeds on the real cores that matter that way. (an i5 is basically a mainstream quad core i7 without hyperthreading, so a lot of gamers and simmers use it over the i7 since the extra money for hyperthreading gets wasted when you turn it off to overclock) Ryan MaziarzFor fastest support, please submit a ticket at http://support.precisionmanuals.com
July 30, 201312 yr To make it short, yes, you will be able to run addons like the NGX or the upcoming 777 at around 20FPS on the ground as long as you keep the autogen settings low and don't use any performance-intensive addon scenery. My old laptop was similar to yours and I could run the NGX pretty smooth. REX might cause some problems if you decide to use high resolution clouds, though. Also, if you set AA to 4x instead of 8x you will get a massive performance boost without loosing too much "sharpness" or detail - it all depends on your personal preference. With kind regards, Bogdan Misko.
July 30, 201312 yr Author No I am very pleased with 20 fps on the 777. I will be only using default scenery and I can tweak the setting in Rex to get more fps like lowering the resolution of the clouds. Sorry for not understanding hyperthreading. Can't wait for the 777 I am using AA through nvidia inspector
July 31, 201312 yr I currently run my system at stock settings: i7-2600k (3.4Ghz) 8GB-1600Mhz Evga GTX580-1536MB 772Mhz Windows 7 Home Premium 1TB - 7200RPM Harddrive To put it in plain terms I get "good-fairly smooth" performance (25-30+ fps) with the NGX at high density airports (depending on the airport). Mind you I have everything at MAX, the AI is OFF and I have not invested in any add-on scenery as of yet. I personally do not like the FSX AI for a number of reasons so I have it off. I am a fairly basic simmer in regards to my lack of overclocking and add-ons, etc. I hope that this gives you a rough idea of what to expect with your system. Happy flying! Sean Franklin
August 22, 201312 yr Commercial Member I certainly appreciate that "middle of the road" and older machines are running the beta well. I run the NGX reasonably well myself, however I may consider upgrading a bit for the T7. 4 year old computer, probably 'bout that time (GPU and RAM are 2 years old). I posted in the CPU/MOBO forum but an upgrade, in a sense, is related to the T7, so I'd like to link it here and solicit opinions. http://forum.avsim.net/topic/416543-if-i-could-upgrade-1-or-2-things-on-my-system/#entry2754052 If anyone might be able to provide any recommendations for a reasonably-priced upgrade or two, I'd certainly appreciate it. I'm leaning toward a i7 4770k, it certainly seems like the current wave of popular, powerful processor for FSX. I suppose that would require a new mobo too. Thanks! Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
August 22, 201312 yr I have a i5 2500k and it thrashes the NGX compared to my old AMD . Frames are unreal. Thanks to Ryan telling me about this processor im a happy lad now i can say easy to overclock aswell because i think they run cooler than the ivy bridge mine is sandy ...
August 22, 201312 yr I have almost the same hardware on one of my laptops and I'm currently getting 20+ fps with the NGX. You should be good to go. Jacob
August 22, 201312 yr If you want to squeeze out the funds for the i7 and GTX 780, you'll be guaranteed good performance, but it may be overkill to ride that bleeding edge. I personally just rebuilt my system last week with a Z87 motherboard, i5-4670k, and GTX 680, OC'd the CPU up to 4.5 GHz on a good air cooler (Phanteks), and put Windows and FSX on a SSD. (These moves will cut your video card price down from around $700 down to around $400 and shave the processor from around $350 to near $200.) So far I've got FSX with UTX, GEX, REX, and Opus installed and the PMDG 737NGX runs with the frames pegged at 30fps (where i've got the limit set) almost all the time, even flying into MegaAirport sceneries like Frankfurt, it jumps around in the high 20's but often still pegged at 30. Unless you plan to go with more taxing add-ons than these, then you could scale down if you're funds are tight. And be weary of stepping down the vid card or the processor alone, based on NickN's writeups one or the other could become your performance bottleneck, so pairing them appropriately is the best way to maximize your spending. Brandon Hathaway UAL-1298 United Virtual Airlines
August 22, 201312 yr If you want to squeeze out the funds for the i7 and GTX 780, you'll be guaranteed good performance, but it may be overkill to ride that bleeding edge. I personally just rebuilt my system last week with a Z87 motherboard, i5-4670k, and GTX 680, OC'd the CPU up to 4.5 GHz on a good air cooler (Phanteks), and put Windows and FSX on a SSD. (These moves will cut your video card price down from around $700 down to around $400 and shave the processor from around $350 to near $200.) So far I've got FSX with UTX, GEX, REX, and Opus installed and the PMDG 737NGX runs with the frames pegged at 30fps (where i've got the limit set) almost all the time, even flying into MegaAirport sceneries like Frankfurt, it jumps around in the high 20's but often still pegged at 30. Unless you plan to go with more taxing add-ons than these, then you could scale down if you're funds are tight. And be weary of stepping down the vid card or the processor alone, based on NickN's writeups one or the other could become your performance bottleneck, so pairing them appropriately is the best way to maximize your spending. That processor and GFX card are the ones i was thinking of using for a new PC build i want for FSX. So you're happy with the performance? James Bennett
August 22, 201312 yr That processor and GFX card are the ones i was thinking of using for a new PC build i want for FSX. So you're happy with the performance? So far, I've not ran into any problems, and the performance is exceeding what I expected (even before the overclock), so I'd say quite happy with it for the add-on combinations I'm using. Brandon Hathaway UAL-1298 United Virtual Airlines
August 22, 201312 yr I am wondering how the PMDG777 compare with PMDG747 performance wise. Should I expect a boost in performance due to new programming techique? I don't have NGX. Danny F
August 22, 201312 yr So far, I've not ran into any problems, and the performance is exceeding what I expected (even before the overclock), so I'd say quite happy with it for the add-on combinations I'm using. Ok cool, thanks. James Bennett
August 22, 201312 yr Commercial Member I guess I know I can run it with low/middle settings but my question/thread mostly stems from what is the one thing (or two) I can upgrade that may have the biggest performance boost. The most bang for my buck. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
August 22, 201312 yr I am wondering how the PMDG777 compare with PMDG747 performance wise. Should I expect a boost in performance due to new programming techique? I don't have NGX. I didn't recieve any significant boost with the NGX compared to the 74'. However, many people reported, due to the new techniques and technology available at the time of the release of the NGX places it's performance ahead of the 747. I therefore assume the same we will be the case for the 777. I suppose if you compare the quality of both the 747 and NGX, and then see that both are recieving similar FPS, it is fair to deduct the NGX is performing better as the quality is top-notch with the same FPS as a product with lower texture qualities/lower resolution modeling etc.etc. Regards,James White Aerosoft (Airbus X Extended/Twin Otter Extended/PFPX) & Majestic Q400 Beta Team
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