August 10, 201312 yr You don't have reset the MCP, set the altimter, turn on landing lights, lower flaps, lower landing gear? All of this is automatic? Michael Cubine Yes you will got to do that manually. Dun worry luke will doing videos and tutorial Turning the ils is not necessary? since if you are flying STARS? Started flying with keyboard and i dun even know what the heck am doing. And now flying the ngx Am 15 and thats 2~3years ago To all new fssimmer dun be afraid to try Just make sure you met the ngx requirement or else its 100$ off your cc Kailiang Seah
August 10, 201312 yr Author To all new fssimmer dun be afraid to try Just make sure you met the ngx requirement or else its 100$ off your cc NGX requirements? What do you mean?
August 10, 201312 yr Pc requiment for the pmdg 737ngx as 777 well be slightly Frame friendly than the ngx So if you can fly the ngx you should be able to fly the pmdg 737 Kailiang Seah
August 10, 201312 yr Author I don't have the NGX but my pc will handle it anyway and the 777 is supposed to be more frame friendly than the NGX is.
August 10, 201312 yr Will this bird be accessible to all? I mean like I wouldn't have to be able to recite the entire manual off the top of my head to do a flight? I'm not expecting it to be a walk in the park I know but I hope it will not be for hardcore professionals only? When I got the second airliner in sim after captain Sims 727 ) was the PMDG 747 for FS9. I flew that airliner without knowing anything. I started off with the engines running and all ready.. and I hand flew it like I would a Cessna 172. I did that for almost a year.. HA HA! then eventually learned each system..first the MCP then the FMS and then start up (engine). So yeah, you should be fine with PMDG aircrafts...no matter how complex they are, you should be in position to fly and enjoy it without knowing much about the aircraft. PMDG aircrafts despite being modeled to such details in terms of systems, they are totally accessible for novices and casual and impatient (no pejorative intended here) simmers. The reason I have many of the fighter aircrafts that I now never use (Hangar queens) is (I don't want to name Vendors), most of them require real world procedure each time I load up the aircraft. I can't even start it up and then save the aircraft in that state. IF I have to learn to fly each sim aircraft following every single procedure properly like a real pilot, I would need more than one lifetime to fly all these aircrafts in FSX. That maybe ok in the real world..but its not ok in FSX. Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
August 10, 201312 yr I fly mostly GA and Warbirds since my real training is in GA. I understand those types of aircraft pretty well. However I find the modern PMDG jetliners not too difficult to operate. I can comfortably fly them from A to B. All the automation does help. As someone mentioned above, a very automated aircraft like 777 or MD-11 is much easier to fly for one person than a 3 crew steam aircraft such as a 727. If you like Airbus aircraft, the MD-11 is very 'airbus'-like in style of system design. One thing to remember is that all airplanes have pretty much the same systems in varying degrees of complexity. Flight control system, navigation system, fuel system, electrical, hydraulic, pneumatic/pressization, powerplant...etc. Even your 172 has these systems, they are just in a much simplified form. The automation of systems like these in modern airliners brings the 'ease' of systems management to pretty much that of complex GA level. ie if you can handle a something like a Beech Baron, a 777 isn't that much harder. Cheers TJ "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams Tejon 'TJ' Stanley
August 10, 201312 yr YouTube videos? Tutorial flights? Bah! The first complex simulation I learned to fly was the PIC 767, took me 45 minutes to figure out how to start the engines, all done going uphill in snow both ways with a barrel of milk on my head, now that's how you put hair on your chest! Bryan Richards "People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.
August 10, 201312 yr Pc requiment for the pmdg 737ngx as 777 well be slightly Frame friendly than the ngx So if you can fly the ngx you should be able to fly the pmdg 777 Kailiang Seah
August 10, 201312 yr YouTube videos? Tutorial flights? Bah! The first complex simulation I learned to fly was the PIC 767, took me 45 minutes to figure out how to start the engines, all done going uphill in snow both ways with a barrel of milk on my head, now that's how you put hair on your chest! First complex FS addon I ever bought was the LDS 767 not long after it was released. It took me at least 45 minutes just to figure out how to enter text into the CDU, much less get to the point where I was starting engines. :lol: Whatever tutorial I was following didn't mention that you had to clear the scratchpad to enter text. I'm unsure exactly what it was, but something was in the scratchpad due to some other thing that you do during startup (Like my technical terminology there?), and I didn't realize you had to clear that text to enter whatever I was supposed to so I could continue with the tutorial. I just kept trying to enter thing after thing but was unable to figure it out. Finally I must have accidentally hit the CLR button, or read on AVSIM or elsewhere that you have to clear the scratchpad and I was good to go from there. It's all been uphill (or should I say downhill considering the hit on my bank account?) from there, and I somehow managed to find my way onto the beta team at PMDG. If the above doesn't give newbies hope that they can figure things out, nothing will.
August 10, 201312 yr I don't have the NGX but my pc will handle it anyway and the 777 is supposed to be more frame friendly than the NGX is. My system handles the NGX better than the AAX - no worries there, either. What happened to AVSIM
August 10, 201312 yr YouTube videos? Tutorial flights? Bah! The first complex simulation I learned to fly was the PIC 767, took me 45 minutes to figure out how to start the engines, all done going uphill in snow both ways with a barrel of milk on my head, now that's how you put hair on your chest! LDS 763 was my first aircraft to learn. I started by needing a video every time I wanted to start the engines, to teaching myself the NAT system, to flows and check lists. That was only mid 2011... Before that I was pretty much your average noob lol. - Luke Pabari
August 10, 201312 yr YouTube videos? Tutorial flights? Bah! The first complex simulation I learned to fly was the PIC 767, took me 45 minutes to figure out how to start the engines, all done going uphill in snow both ways with a barrel of milk on my head, now that's how you put hair on your chest! Ah yes, the good ol' PIC767 for FS2000/2002...No fancy VC's back then :Hmmmph: Regards,James White Aerosoft (Airbus X Extended/Twin Otter Extended/PFPX) & Majestic Q400 Beta Team
August 11, 201312 yr You don't have reset the MCP, set the altimter, turn on landing lights, lower flaps, lower landing gear? All of this is automatic? Michael Cubine A monkey can push a flap handle lever and landing gear lever, pressing"B" to set the altimeter is pretty easy no? seriously your missing the point here.. ZORAN
August 11, 201312 yr My first introduction to more complex add ons was as a 14 year old with the Wilco/Feelthere airbus series vol 1 for FS9. I followed the brief but excellent tutorial by Jane Whittaker, from which I developed my knowledge on airliner operation. Now 5 years on I can quite quickly learn a new plane. The basics are the same all over, you just need to know each individual types quirks to be able to confidently operate them in normal operations. 5 years on from that first purchase I have a wide variety in my hanger and largely find procedures to be largely similar over all of them. It only takes me a few day's to get comfortable with a new type if I put the time into it.
August 11, 201312 yr Thread derail: anybody know of VAs where I can fly the jet I choose from the get-go? Yes sir, PM me and I will get you going in the right direction, don't want to advertise in an open forum thread though! Kind regards Werner Gillespie CYB2400Proud member of Cyber Air Virtual AirlinesAVSIM Staff Member
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