September 11, 201312 yr Hi guys The following three problems are solved on my system :biggrin: : 1. Rudder rebounds to initial position ==> Configure the axis via the FSUIPC but disable axis calibration 2. Throttle levers rebounds to idle position if A/T armed but disconnected ==> Configure the axis via the FSUIPC but disable throttle calibration 3. Manual throttle override if A/T is in "HOLD" mode ==> PMDG Setup > Simulation > A/T over ride set to ==> NEVER Now everything works as expected. Saitek Throttle Quadrants allowing smooth throttle handling even if A/T ARM is on. Best regards Bruno Can you perform a Go Around and a touch & go with Auto Throttle with those settings???
September 11, 201312 yr Author MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Thanks to Robert and all the others involved, I got her working right. I fixed my hardware issue with the GF TQ6 by talking to John at Goflight. The rest came from here. As I mentioned to Pete Dowson, this hobby is 25% flying and 75% solving and fixing problems. Now I can fly, till PMDG comes out with the 787;) Gnacino
September 11, 201312 yr I too was able to solve my throttle issue. I first deleted my FSUIPC.ini file. Too much garbage to deal with...starting with a new file assures that there is no calibration data anywhere in the file to muddle things up. I then assigned my throttle axis to "Direct to FSX Axis" option not the "Send to Calibration" option. I think the latter option with the additonal manipulation mentioned above is not necessary. I did not assign any other axes at this point so that it would be easy to find the proper axes in the FUIPC.ini file. They should be at the very end. At this point the throttles moved properly but were reversed (I have a PFC throttle quadrant). After a bit of research at Pete Dowson's forum I found that adding to following to the end of throttle axis lines in the ini file reverse the axes: ,*-1. (Not the period). This means that settings in the line are multiplied by -1. FSX then needed to be restarted for the reversal to take effect. After completing the above I was delighted to find that the throttles functioned as they should (with the autothrottle switches left in the on position). I then assigned to rest of the axes the same way..."Direct to FSX Axis" and then my various button controls etc. I now have no calibration info at all in my FSUIPC.ini file which i guess is the way it needs to be for the PMDG stuff. This will also fix some issues in the NGX too that you may not have even noticed such as the throttles not going to complete idle during a vnav descent when they need to. Thank you to all that pointed me in the right direction!! Steve Giblin
September 13, 201312 yr Thx for that info, looks like I need to apply the same for CHpro via FSUIPC. Rob Robson
September 13, 201312 yr Glad it worked out for you. You are so right about the percentages flying vs tweaking settings. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 4 R. Scott McDonald B738/L Information is anecdotal only-without guarantee & user assumes all risks of use thereof. Click here for my YouTube channel
September 13, 201312 yr After a bit of research at Pete Dowson's forum I found that adding to following to the end of throttle axis lines in the ini file reverse the axes: ,*-1. (Not the period).Thanks for the info Steve, so now you have fully functioning reverser's without pressing any button's? I had the NGX set up perfectly but forgot to save the FSUIPC.ini prior to deleting it. Can you paste the axis section of the .ini here for others to see? Thanks very much. Robert \Robert Hamlich/
September 13, 201312 yr I have tried the fixes mentioned in hear to no avail. My still do not work. Using a Goflight TQ6 throttle. If anything FSUIPC messed up my system after trying the fixes mentioned. Will have to remove FSUIPC and re-install again, throttles are not seen in FSUIPC and they were recognised using LDS767 before and that too throttles not recognised Bruce Jackson
September 13, 201312 yr I have tried the fixes mentioned in hear to no avail. My still do not work. Using a Goflight TQ6 throttle. If anything FSUIPC messed up my system after trying the fixes mentioned. Will have to remove FSUIPC and re-install again, throttles are not seen in FSUIPC and they were recognised using LDS767 before and that too throttles not recognised Bruce Jackson I would contact GoFlight for assistance. R. Scott McDonald B738/L Information is anecdotal only-without guarantee & user assumes all risks of use thereof. Click here for my YouTube channel
September 13, 201312 yr Don't run any Lua Throttle type modules, even if only activated by FSUIPC buttons. It was causing the throttle snap-backs on my setup. See my findings in a new thread here: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/420572-my-t7-fsuipc-throttle-fix-not-what-i-expected/#entry2793365 Regards, Al Jordan | KCAE
September 13, 201312 yr Robert and Al Many thanks guys for your suggestions, will ask over on the Goflight fourm regarding the throttles, I know that Gnacino said to delete the Goflight.cfg since there was a problem between it and FSUIPC, I dont want to do that all my other aircraft and modules are through the cfg file. The system worked before I installed the 777 so I dont think its a problem between the goflight.cfg file and FSUIPC. Just maybe when the 777 installed over the FSUIPC software something was changed, I will uninstall FSUIPC first and re-install over the 777 and see if anything changes. Best Regards Bruce Jackson
September 13, 201312 yr Well that idea did not work, still have the same issues as before, throttles snap back to idle when engaging toga. The only way I can get round the problem is by advancing the throttles to full without the A/T engaged then once in the air engage FL CHG and that engages autothrottles and I can leave them there for the remainder of the flight. I certainly hope PMDG comes up with a solution to these problems, too many people are having issues which should not be there on an aircraft costing this much. This is akin to buying a car without a gas pedal, would you buy that car? Regards Bruce Jackson
September 13, 201312 yr Well that idea did not work, still have the same issues as before, throttles snap back to idle when engaging toga. The only way I can get round the problem is by advancing the throttles to full without the A/T engaged then once in the air engage FL CHG and that engages autothrottles and I can leave them there for the remainder of the flight. I certainly hope PMDG comes up with a solution to these problems, too many people are having issues which should not be there on an aircraft costing this much. This is akin to buying a car without a gas pedal, would you buy that car? Regards Bruce Jackson So you won't do what Gnacio did that actually FIXED the problem? I get the fact that you worry about your other airplanes... but still, couldn't you clone your FSX folder, make the changes, then revert the folder back afterwards for testing purposes? R. Scott McDonald B738/L Information is anecdotal only-without guarantee & user assumes all risks of use thereof. Click here for my YouTube channel
September 13, 201312 yr Thanks for the info Steve, so now you have fully functioning reverser's without pressing any button's? I had the NGX set up perfectly but forgot to save the FSUIPC.ini prior to deleting it. Can you paste the axis section of the .ini here for others to see? Thanks very much. Robert No the ,*-1 reverses the axis of the throttles...Push your throttles forward and the sims throttles come toward you and vice versa without it. Haven't seen any discussions yet about getting reverse thrust with 777. Steve Giblin
September 14, 201312 yr Hi Robert Thanks for the suggestion, in fact no I dont worry at all about my other aircraft, but, when you have approx 12 modules all programmed through that cfg file, it becomes a big job re-inputting the settings again, the suggestion was to delete the file altogether. What might work for him, if for instance he has only the throttle installed is fine, but when you have a whole host of stuff programmed through that one file then thats a different ball game altogether. Correct me if I am wrong but is your suggestion to rename that goflight.cfg file to something else instead of deleting it? Now if I go back to the ifly737 and the Level D 767, FSUIPC sees the throttle but it dosnt when I go into the 777 surely that would point to something in the 777 software not being right. I will certainly give your idea a go and see if that works. I actually do love the 777 I have no other issues at all with it, just the throttles, and a whole bunch of other folks have the same problem, some have got them to work with your suggestion and others like myself nothing works at the moment. When my throttles revert to idle the doors sign on the eicas flashes , the throttles work well when no A/T is engaged, Sometimes I can get the throttles to go to full when A/T engaged but all of a sudden either the left or right throttle snaps back to idle leaving me with one engine effectively in the high speed regime and that is where the frustration sets in. Bruce Jackson
September 14, 201312 yr Hi Robert Well good news at last. 1. I disconnected my goflight throttle from the USB Hub and all of a sudden my single throttle on my CH Yoke started working. 2. Re-connected throttle and placed the goflight config file on another drive, once again yoke throttle was working, so there is an issue with the goflight throttle. 3. Did the action that goflight gave to Gnacio that didnt work. 4. Removed Goflight software from PC and re-installed again, tested 777 again and once again throttle on yoke works, next I connected goflight throttle and once again no go, throttles jumping back to idle. 5. Made a new config file just for the 777 and removed the goflight throttlle settings, at last that worked, the single throttle on the yoke works perfectly no springing back to idle. 6. Replaced the config file with the old on and added the 777 my other two aircraft that I use in our VA came up ok apart from the lights on the 767, so have just re-installed the settings for the lights on the 767. At last I can start to use the 777 in our VA, we are doing trials just now so that was why I was getting frustrated with PMDG, I so wanted this aircraft to work. Thanks very much for your suggestions, at least now I have a working 777 all be it with on a single throttle controlling the aircraft, thats a heck of a lot better than I had before, I can live with that tilll PMDG bring out the SDK, goflight state that as soon as they get that they will make new drivers. Sorry if I sounded a bit nippy on here but you can understand my frustration with the 777. Regards Bruce Jackson
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