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Skeleton (no skin) 777 potential Fix, Question on reinstallation of Acceleration

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Thats good news Gabriel thanks for the info

 

Sean that worked and not noticing any quality difference but now the VC is still loading very slow so looks like its time to get that new motherboard in its the only thing left, just use this board for a great guitar pc, thanks for the help - report back should be interesting just hope the ram I have for new board works as it would not work on this board should have but didnt ok off to work again lol

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The OP needs to paste a copy of their fsx.cfg file. I do not believe they have the highmem in the correct place. You do not get skeletons with the fix in there.

That is correct.

 

I am also starting to believe we are not all talking about the same thing here.

 

In my opinion there is the short lasting skeletin thing.

And there is a continuous skeleton thing.

 

The short lasting one is just initially for about a second when you switch from VC to outside or vice versa.

I think this is normal and due to the HD textures PMDG uses.

And I think the intro guide mentions this. Maybe I can find that again.

Lowering texture quality will help here if it realy bothers anyone that much.

 

The continuous skelleton thing is a real bug

And that one is fixed with the Highmemfix=1 as instructed by PMDG.

 

Neither phenomenon is going to get fixed by buying new hardware I think.

Rob Robson

In my case its about 4 to 5 seconds then its gone - unacceptable to me - I have high mem fix under graphics category

 

And this is with bare bones fsx no ai and no clouds again unacceptable to me

Rich Sennett

               

In my case its about 4 to 5 seconds then its gone - unacceptable to me - I have high mem fix under graphics category

 

And this is with bare bones fsx no ai and no clouds again unacceptable to me

4 to 5 sec is definately unacctable.

I would suspect slow memory before a motherboard though.

 

What latency are your RAM sticks?

Rob Robson

In my case its about 4 to 5 seconds then its gone - unacceptable to me - I have high mem fix under graphics category

 

And this is with bare bones fsx no ai and no clouds again unacceptable to me

 

paste your fsx.cfg file

paste your fsx.cfg file

Cant hurt but I think he has it in correctly. He said under graphics.

 

Besides....if he does not have it in correctly I think he would have skeletons continuously.

 

A 3770k greatly benefits from fast RAM which is what I recommend him buying over a new MB.

 

I have 8Gb Gskill [email protected] .31 for under 100€.

Rob Robson

New board running now need to install fsx - could not get 32gig 1600 vengeance ram to run on this board either its going to get rma'ed - 2 boards now it will not work with this ram so have to find the best ram I can get for gigabyte z77x-up7 - report back when I load fsx so where are you guys placing highmem fix ?

Rich Sennett

               

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I dont get what performance boost you guys are talking about?

 

My post to Richard wasn't so much about a performance boost since resizing exterior textures wont affect the performance from inside the cockpit. My post to him was a solution to eliminate or reduce the skeleton effect when switching to an external view. Although some have claimed turning off the external model completely raises performance within the VC, I have tried it and saw no real effect on my machine in doing so. I can see how in the case of the T7 it might make a difference since the external wing tip lights are built into the external model and the light splashes are seen on the ground from within the VC.

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If the resized textures are the answer would PMDG please provide these for download or allow others to share ?

I have the same issues but don't have the time or photo shop to do the work myself.

Cheers

Jay

 

 

My post to Richard wasn't so much about a performance boost since resizing exterior textures wont affect the performance from inside the cockpit. My post to him was a solution to eliminate or reduce the skeleton effect when switching to an external view. Although some have claimed turning off the external model completely raises performance within the VC, I have tried it and saw no real effect on my machine in doing so. I can see how in the case of the T7 it might make a difference since the external wing tip lights are built into the external model and the light splashes are seen on the ground from within the VC.

Thanks a bunch for explaining that! All makes sence now.

Rob Robson

New board running now need to install fsx - could not get 32gig 1600 vengeance ram to run on this board either its going to get rma'ed - 2 boards now it will not work with this ram so have to find the best ram I can get for gigabyte z77x-up7 - report back when I load fsx so where are you guys placing highmem fix ?

I suggest you place it there where you had it before. We want to compare apples with apples now dont we?

 

How else will we know if it was your MB change that fixed your skeleton problem?

 

If your skeleton problem still exits THEN post your FSX.cfg and we can tell you if your Highmemfix is at the right place.

Rob Robson

Ok its better but could not get 1600 32 gig of ram to work got 1866 16 gig to work going to look into better ram for this new board - loaded fsx vanilla no addons - loaded 777 after sp1 and sp2 - fsiupc encountering some graphic corruption when changing some menu settings but after a reinstall of video driver seems ok so now I have a slight skeleton going to spot view no biggie as I will lower texture files VC seemed faster loading but after looking into texture sizes for VC doesnt seem like that would help as most are all ready 1024 so right now I think a ram update and a stable oc would finish things up but not sure as not feeling comfy with this latest build, not many own a up7 board but would appreciate some input on ram choices, thank you.

 

 

My cfg file

 

 

 

// This file was tweaked on Oct 19, 2013 at 22:25 GMT using Bojote's automated FSX Tweaking & Tuning Service


// This file is optimized as follows: 4 core(s), CPU speed 5, HT 0, GPU 4, PREF 2

// You can visit Bojote's FSX Tweaking & Tuning service at http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html

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Heading=1,4

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MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3

SmallPartRejectRadius=4.0

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condAccoutPassword=0

Rich Sennett

               

You can visit Bojote's FSX Tweaking & Tuning service at

Richard, if I may make a suggestion. Don't use Bojote's tool on an high end machine. That could be half your problem.

Have you tried Word Not Allowed's / PJ's guide here @ Avsim.

I don't get the skelelton issue, but I can see lots of tweaks in your fsx cfg that i would not put in mine  with a barge pole.

For example, Sound LOD = 1 is a crap tweak and can effect third party sound addons. It should be =0

Your cfg has been tweaked to death.

Please delete your fsx cfg and start again. Follow the guides.But not the automated ones.

 

 

ProcSpeed=10410

Look, @ your proc speed, that is very low. I am running @ 4.3 and my proc speed  in fsx cfg is 18323 and you are running @ 4.6 with a proc speed in your cfg @ 10410.

System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A,  Intel i9-14900KF,  Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU

 

I agree   with Julian   delete your fsx.cfg let fsx  build  a new one  than work your way up

I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card,  RM850 power supply

 

Peter kelberg

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