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Want to Double your FPS and Free VAS!

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Going on a Tip from another user over at the prepar3d forum I tried this and was BLOWN away by the results.  I deleted Nvidia Inspector from my PC, downloaded the latest driver from Nividia today and installed it.  Used the settings in the Nvidia GUI to enhance my P3D settings.  My FPS doubled and my free VAS after a 2 hour flight was doubled!!  Amazing find by that user!!!  I am running a very complex 737 and I get average  89FPS outside view and 45 in 3D cockpit with LOD and Tess settings maxed and 16x and 8x on the quality with FXAA on.  Looks and runs amazing! I'm giddy as a young kid on Christmas morning!!

 

Rob

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Quite some people find magical solutions that fix all their problems, only to find out later that they didn't do anything at all. It's not that I don't believe you, but I'd recommend that you keep testing for a little while longer before you come to a conclusion.

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You should give some more details on settings, so other people can try this. Also, which tools have been used for VAS monitoring? After 2h of flight, are you sure you free VAS vas doubled, and no used VAS? How much VAS you exactly have at take off, and how much on landing? 

 

I asked this becouse is very hard to belive, and is imposible for free VAS to increase during flight

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I asked this becouse is very hard to belive, and is imposible for free VAS to increase during flight

 

According to FSUIPC log it can increase, but not a lot. 

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Don't let my few post scare you.  I am a long time veteran of Flight simming.  I would not post something like this unless it helped and I can back and prove it.

I fly almost everyday and I do allot of testing.

 

I use FSUIPC 024C offset to monitor 'Free' VAS.  

Before I was dropping to 300 to 500 free VAS after a 2-3hr flight in the the aftermarket 737 I am using.  It started at 1.2 to 1.4 on takeoff.  Again this is free VAS.   

FPS would average in the mid 20's

 

Search my username in here and raflyer over at Prepar3d forums to see all my specs on PC and settings. I've posted allot here lately as i'm trying to deceide whether to go P3D or X-plane.  (right now i'm leaning towards P3D)

 

After I did the changes,

Free VAS was 1.4 to 1.6G at start and 980 to 1.1 at end of 2hr flight

My Average FPS was as state din my first post.

 

I did not change any of the P3D settings between the before and after test.  Only the NI settings before and the Nvidia GUI after.

 

Guys, bottom line, it worked for me and my PC. Your mileage may vary.  It's worth a shot. 

 

Rob


You should give some more details on settings, so other people can try this. Also, which tools have been used for VAS monitoring? After 2h of flight, are you sure you free VAS vas doubled, and no used VAS? How much VAS you exactly have at take off, and how much on landing? 

 

I asked this becouse is very hard to belive, and is imposible for free VAS to increase during flight

I can confirm, after my change,  free VAS was going between 980 and 1.1G depending on views.  

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Hi Rob. Thanks for your finding! Can you please specify what settings you are using for P3D in the Nvidia GUI?

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" I deleted Nvidia Inspector from my PC, downloaded the latest driver from Nividia today and installed it."

 

Every time I run the inspector it asks me if I want to download the new version .. if I am on an older version ...

 

 

"Search my username in here and Prepar3d forums to see all my specs on PC and settings."

Why not just post them here?

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It's worth a shot.

 

We would all love to give it a shot if you tell is what it is...!!! (What's the point in posting two posts about an apparently great tip without sharing the tip...?!? :rolleyes: )

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Hi Rob. Thanks for your finding! Can you please specify what settings you are using for P3D in the Nvidia GUI?

Yes I will as soon as my son lands.  After my 2 hour flight in usa, without rebooting, he took over and is on a flight from LFML to LOWI.  Free VAS was 1.0 at start  It is going from 880 to 920 now.  FPS inside complex 737 3D cockpit is 38fps avg  78 outside view.  I could never do this before as I always had to reboot to get free vas back..   Loving it!

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Yes I will as soon as my son lands.  After my 2 hour flight in usa, without rebooting, he took over and is on a flight from LFML to LOWI.  Free VAS was 1.0 at start  It is going from 880 to 920 now.  FPS inside complex 737 3D cockpit is 38fps avg  78 outside view.  I could never do this before as I always had to reboot to get free vas back..   Loving it!

Thanks Rob. Looking forward to it :)

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We would all love to give it a shot if you tell is what it is...!!! (What's the point in posting two posts about an apparently great tip without sharing the tip...?!? :rolleyes: )

I deleted Nvidia Inspector from my PC as I was using it on all 3 of my sims, FSX, P3D and Xplane 10.   I downloaded the latest driver for my Nvidia 660TI  334.89 drivers    So the change was you stop letting Inspector make the changes and use the default Nvidia GUI to enhance the application, in this case, P3D.   I don't know why but it worked.   Sorry, thought it was clear in my first post.  SOmetimes we don't type we are thinking  lol

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I deleted Nvidia Inspector from my PC as I was using it on all 3 of my sims, FSX, P3D and Xplane 10.   I downloaded the latest driver for my Nvidia 660TI  334.89 drivers    So the change was you stop letting Inspector make the changes and use the default Nvidia GUI to enhance the application, in this case, P3D.   I don't know why but it worked.   Sorry, thought it was clear in my first post.  SOmetimes we don't type we are thinking  lol

I think many of us would like to know exactly what settings you changed in the default nvidia gui to enhance your performance??

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I have used Driver 334.89 since 2-18-14.

 

All is the same as with the previous driver 332.21... and I never got OOM yet and my FPS are the same using unlimited they move around.

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and use the default Nvidia GUI to enhance the application

 

And still no useful information... :blink: I do wonder though how your AA is right now because good performance is one thing, but having shimmering jaggies on screen all the time is another! So far I haven;t been able to get reasonable AA without using NI!

 

BTW It's not necessary to actually remove NI: as long as you don't use it to edit the P3D profile, it will do absolutly NOTHING to P3D. You can use the nVidia GUI even with NI on your PC. Anyway, I am looking forward to your settings, the quality of your AA and your settings in the sim (because if you have autogen at Sparse then I already know why you do get great performance and no OOMs! ^_^

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Thanks Rob. Looking forward to it :)

I paused the flight and got the info you need.

In the default Nvidia GUI under manage 3D app settings

 

I have,

Anio filter = 16x

Antialias FXAA= on

Antialias Gamma correction= on

Antialias mode= enhance application

Antialias setting= 8xCSAA

transparancy=off

cuda=global

max pre rendering=global

multi display =single perf

power manage = performance

Tex filter= off

Load bias=clamp

Filter quality=high quality

trilinear =off

Thread opt=global

Triple Buff=global

Vertical sync=adaptive 1/2 refresh

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I deleted Nvidia Inspector from my PC

Gotta love it. No one's EVER had problems with Nvidia Inspector, right? I remember reading people complaining that you can't turn the profile off; it's always in use no matter how you set it up.

 

It may be as simple as changing one of the settings NI makes, for those who can't live without it.

 

Hook

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And still no useful information... :blink: I do wonder though how your AA is right now because good performance is one thing, but having shimmering jaggies on screen all the time is another! So far I haven;t been able to get reasonable AA without using NI!

 

BTW It's not necessary to actually remove NI: as long as you don't use it to edit the P3D profile, it will do absolutly NOTHING to P3D. You can use the nVidia GUI even with NI on your PC. Anyway, I am looking forward to your settings, the quality of your AA and your settings in the sim (because if you have autogen at Sparse then I already know why you do get great performance and no OOMs! ^_^

Right click your desktop and select Nvidia control panel, then manage 3D settings. ;)

 

I HATE HATE HATE HATE jaggies!!  lol   It looks great with my settings I have    I was using Supercava64 4x12 in the inspector before to get a smooth look.  

I will try and take a pic and post it on here.

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I paused the flight and got the info you need.

 

Thanks! What are your AA settings in the sim?

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I agree with you Hook, I can't explain it but it I had to delete to get to stop interfering with the sim.  I have used NI for a loooonnng time so this is new to me as well.


Thanks! What are your AA settings in the sim?

Sorry about that,

FXAA= On

Msaa= 8x

Anio= 16x

Tex res= 4096x4096

 

Tessellation checked  

Mipmap VC and Wide view checked

My res is 1680x1050 on a 42" TV

 

Right now I have vsync UNchecked

 

Scenery

All shadows = off

LOD = Max

Tess= Ultra

mesh=10m

Tex res = 60cm

Scenery complexity = Dense

AG Veg = sparse

AG buildings = dense

Special effects = off

 

HDR lighting and landing lights on gnd both Checked

 

Weather 60mile and detailed

 

Traffic AI at 45% and AP density = Max

No other traffic on

 

Right now on flight number 2 Free VAS is still at 800 and FPS in 3D Cockpit 40fps avg.  :)


Also guys, the guy who posted this find said he did a complete reinstall of P3Dv2.1 after deleting Inspector.  I did not do that and still got great results.  Some of you may have to do that.  Also, my PC is a flightsim only PC built by myself.  It only has 40 processes running when I start P3D on Win7 64bit system.

 

Rob

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Glad it worked for you. I just did a flight with new driver, no NI. all default settings in V2 and QW757 KRIC to KDEN, got maybe 1.5hr into flight and VAS degraded as quickly as ever to OOM status. Perhaps its the "magical" 737?

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I had stutters and DPC latency in DX9 mode prior to deleting FSX profile in Nvidia Inspector. No more stutters and much lower DPC latency after creating new profile in nVi. So in one hand I kinda believe in this story, FSX or P3D2, doesn't matter.

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Glad it worked for you. I just did a flight with new driver, no NI. all default settings in V2 and QW757 KRIC to KDEN, got maybe 1.5hr into flight and VAS degraded as quickly as ever to OOM status. Perhaps its the "magical" 737?

We just landed in LOWI, free VAS is at 690780 after 2 back to back flights with the above listed settings.   Gotta be something somewhere you are missing.  Wish I knew!!  Sorry.

 

Rob

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AG Veg = sparse

 

LOL What I said:

 

 

 

because if you have autogen at Sparse then I already know why you do get great performance and no OOMs!

 

No wonder you don't have OOMs and good performance. I tried your settings but the AA was awful (the VC of my A2A C172 was a shimmering mess) and I had an OOM within 5 minutes (but that was because I tested this with high autogen settings). Adaptive 1/2 refresh didn't do anything either. Anyway, glad it worked for you but removing NI and only using the nVidia GUI is no solution and also no option for me. Besides, there is no difference between changing those settings using the nVidia GUI or NI because NI is just another interface to the exact same profiles.

 

Thanks for all the information, though: much appreciated and hopefully others will benefit from it!

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Has anybody tried the SSAA=x line in the Prepar3D configuration file? Apparently it provides SSAA, which negates the need for NVIDIA Inspector.

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Has anybody tried the SSAA=x line in the Prepar3D configuration file? Apparently it provides SSAA, which negates the need for NVIDIA Inspector.

I'll try it later tonight and report back.

 

To J van E,

as I stated, your mileage may vary, also 2 of the 3 sliders in autogen where on MAX.... I'll move the veggy up and test again but at 30Kft + i don't need it. ;)

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