With so much crap floating around on the nightly news I'm surprised 'Alien Abduction' hasn't been tossed around as a possible theory...

With so much crap floating around on the nightly news I'm surprised 'Alien Abduction' hasn't been tossed around as a possible theory...

 

If you think its crap go to www.flightradar24.com use playback at 3/7/14 at 1815 utc and compare SIA68 with MH370 last known position....right on top of each other

Thanks for the response..That is what I was thinking....Did read in stby mode tcas computer is on for grd (taxing in fog) operation

Don't know where you read that but it is wrong. Standby only keeps it warmed up. We keep it in ta/ra for taxi, though xpdr is acceptable as well.

If you think its crap go to www.flightradar24.com use playback at 3/7/14 at 1815 utc and compare SIA68 with MH370 last known position....right on top of each other

Have you considered that they may somehow be mistaking the SIA68 returns for MH370? There are only a finite amount of transponder codes available, so they are reused and different airspaces will use the same codes for different flights. At this point with all the backtracking and forth of information from the Malaysians, I wouldn't be surprisef either if it turns out that all they wete saying about pings here and there hours afterwards turns out to be false as well.

Yeah thought that could be the only other explanation....The Malaysian information hasn't been the most accurate at best......You would hope they filtered out known air traffic at the time....but no way to know for sure

Don't know where you read that but it is wrong. Standby only keeps it warmed up. We keep it in ta/ra for taxi, though xpdr is acceptable as well.

 

You are right.....When I fly my CS T7 (cheaper than the pmdg - I know better) just put in ta/ra mode never thought of a passive ta mode....Never used a tcas system real world SEL Instrument pilot....so pardon my ignorance on the matter....However did read this

 

 

 

I have a 4 inch long ADS-B antenna hooked up to my computer inside my home office, and I can pick up signals from over 30 miles away on a clear day. And my house is at a relative low point geographically too. I have no doubt that a $30 device hooked up to a laptop in the cockpit would have enabled MH370 to follow SIA68 with ease

 

on http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=274846&page=48 forums

 

So I guess if pre-planned pilot/whoever brought along extra ads-b system

 

Video of guy with portable ads-b antenna with 300km range http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yehwfMD6Hes

LOL nope :lol:  but Boeing/Airbus might not feel comfortable with the knoweldge that there systems can be learned by anyone with a copy of FSX or some other entertainment based, off the shelf flight sim.

 

There are a wealth of technical books about all commercial aircraft, including detail manuals with respect to programming the FMC and so on. It is not and cannot be 'secret' the airlines themselves need access to the tech data to support the planes... and so one way or another, the information is out there.  Yes, FSX or X-Plane can make some of the nuts and bolts simpler to learn, but you can go to YouTube and learn how to program a FMC, without investing a penny in real hardware or sim platforms.

Five landing strips found in pilot's simulator

 

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/257445

 

MH370 The landing strips for airports in Diego Garcia, Maldives, Sri Lanka and  India were among those found in the flight simulator programme taken from MH370 pilot Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home.

http://www.vataware.com/citypair.cfm?from=WMKK&to=VRMM

Five landing strips found in pilot's simulator

 

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/257445

 

MH370 The landing strips for airports in Diego Garcia, Maldives, Sri Lanka and  India were among those found in the flight simulator programme taken from MH370 pilot Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home.

http://www.vataware.com/citypair.cfm?from=WMKK&to=VRMM

 

 

 

Diego Garcia which is a US Military base, I think you can cross that one off the suspicious list, as you can Maldives' Male international airport, which is a busy airport highly unlikely a rogue 777 that wants to hide would go. The other fields are said to be on 1000m (3280ft) long. That would be way too short for a 777 with a passenger load to land. So I find it highly unlikely any of these fields would be used. A better possible site (If the plane was hijacked and landed somewhere) is one I read from a users comment on  Flightaware. He suggested it may have gone to Socotra Island (SCT) international airport (Yemen). It is rather remote. Looking at Google Earth other then the airfield, which looks deserted, there is virtually nothing there. The airfield has a 10000+ft runway, and is right at the 7 hour flight window where the last ping was heard. Yemen as we all know have been linked to terrorists groups in the past. 

Perhaps someone (the admins) of vatsim/ivao can input the waypoints the 'hijacker' of the aircraft flew and see if they can cross reference with any filed flight plans on their network.

 

It would probably be very remote (who whould practice on an online public network?) but you never know...

Five landing strips found in pilot's simulator

 

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/257445

 

MH370 The landing strips for airports in Diego Garcia, Maldives, Sri Lanka and  India were among those found in the flight simulator programme taken from MH370 pilot Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah's home.

http://www.vataware.com/citypair.cfm?from=WMKK&to=VRMM

 

 

That article fails to point out the aircraft has not been found on any landing strip in the world. If the captain has those airports in his simulator which suggests he was planning on landing the aircraft at one of them then the aircraft would of been found there but it hasn't, extremely poor and pointless reporting.

 

Personally I'm not one to get involved in speculation but the facts suggest that the transponder and ACARS was switched off but this is completely irrelevant aside from assigning blame as the authorities supposedly have a last position to work on based on satellite data. The aircraft has not shown up on land anywhere in the world so it is fair to say that this plane headed somewhere over the Indian Ocean and by that conclusion has probably crashed there. The Indian Ocean represents millions of square miles and we do not know exactly where to look, all they have is a supposed route so it is hardly surprising that it has not been found. It did not take the AF447 SAR operation long to find the aircraft because they had a last known position based on transponder data, ATC contact and also satellite data; they were looking in the right place. It is fair to say at the moment that information is scarce and inconclusive which means the only way to find this aircraft is by brute force, that is to get out there and look. If you zero hour the SAR operation to the search based on new data (they were looking in the wrong place for a week) then they really haven't had any time to search such a vast area. Bare in mind also that they are searching for this aircraft in occasionally difficult conditions, large storms are brewing in that area all the time.

 

Aside from that, I said it in another thread but I don't think it is fair to accuse the Captain or Copilot of anything until we have a CVR recording showing otherwise. For now, all we know is that their duty is to act in the honest, best intentions of the passengers onboard and that they did so.

The aircraft has not shown up on land anywhere in the world so it is fair to say that this plane headed somewhere over the Indian Ocean and by that conclusion has probably crashed there

 

With the known facts how can one conclude pilot/whoever flew south over the Indian Ocean only to run out of gas....seems pointless and futile

 

Silk Air and Egypt Air the two suspected pilot/suicide crashes just dove down.....didn't fly for 7 hrs till fuel starvation 

 

Evidence suggests pilot/whoever was trying to evade radar detection and was last tracked on a northwest trajectory at FL295 near SIA68 at FL300

 

Nothing can be concrete as far as theorizing but this is the most plausible one I've heard http://keithledgerwo...sing-sia68-sq68

I am tending to lean towrds the fire onboard theory. In the early days of simming this incident, I also surmised that a quick turn around was made to divert to nearest airport. Actaully Narratiwat in Thailand is nearest but does not have a long enough runway and they were still fully loaded (6200 odd feet a bit short, but doable as an absolute last resport). Then wapoints Gival and Igrex got thrown into the mix, and that threw me off my "divert to nearest and carry on autopilot" idea.

 

So Langkawi would have been the best option. The co-pilot was also very familiar with that airport as that is were he was based for his pilot training. The ND also displays nearest suitable airports constantly, though these pilots would instinctively have known that Lankawi was their best option.

 

In this respect could a climb to FL450 not be seen also as an attempt to get as high as possible into thinner air to starve the fire of oxygen? Then, hoping that had worked, they again dive down to an altitude to cross Malaysia and get ready for going down into Langkawi. But at that stage things went horribly wrong (pilots incapacitated)  and the plane continued to fly on autopilot.

 

Parabolic primary radar dishes are good at discriminating azimuth accurately, but elevation resolution is weaker, so one may have to take those altitude readings with a pinch of salt.

 

I also see discrepencies in some media maps. Some show Vampi as last point of radar contact, others show Gival and Igrex as also radar contact positions. So the 90 degree turn towards Phuket, after the pilots could have been overcome by noxious fumes, seems to be in doubt/dispute.

 

Of course this scenario does not gel with the calculated positions of the last Inmarsat satellite "pings". A HDG locked to Lankawi from turn around is +- due west at lat 7 N, and would have them going over the Indian Ocean and into Africa at 7Hrs. Somalia (heaven forbid, disfunctional state, pirate's heaven), is reachable at 500kts GS after 7 hours, so it could have crashed somewhere there, but not according to the final satellite data (But, is there a polarity to those signals that makes the investigators sure they came from the arcs as they have defined, and not from arcs to the west of the satellite's sub-earth point - must research this some more.)

 

Rob

With the known facts how can one conclude pilot/whoever flew south over the Indian Ocean only to run out of gas....seems pointless and futile

 

Silk Air and Egypt Air the two suspected pilot/suicide crashes just dove down.....didn't fly for 7 hrs till fuel starvation 

 

Evidence suggests pilot/whoever was trying to evade radar detection and was last tracked on a northwest trajectory at FL295 near SIA68 at FL300

 

Nothing can be concrete as far as theorizing but this is the most plausible one I've heard http://keithledgerwo...sing-sia68-sq68

 

There is no evidence that the aircraft followed any trajectory at all, reports suggesting the aircraft was west of Thailand are still unconfirmed, it is only assumed to be the aircraft because we know that it was still flying due to the satellite pings. Again all we know is that the aircraft may of been in the vicinity of SIA68, as were many other aircraft. Flying and running out of fuel over the Indian Ocean may be pointless but what purpose would avoiding radar detection have? Although the transponder was indeed turned off, the aircraft can still be tracked on primary radar but there is yet to be any evidence disclosed. All we know for sure is it's exact last known location as reported by ADS-B and a best guess position based on the satellite ping timing. The only real clue right now is again this satellite ping but this lacks any data such as position, speed, track or altitude, the authorities have simply extrapolated that time from the last known position in relation to this reported sighting on Thailand radar which has put the plane on a supposed western location, we do not know however which way it was pointing.

 

I think the position of SIA68 is pure coincidence if you consider the level of planning that would be required to even think about that level of sophistication of hijack. To go to the level of turning off all communication equipment, tracking across Southern Thaliand and Northern Malaysia in range of primary radar to then hope that an aircraft is within range for evasion purposes just doesn't make sense. It does not make sense either that whoever was flying this aircraft would go to all those lengths only to then crash into land or sea. This is of course unless it was some sort of suicide bid in which case I don't think it crashing in the Indian Ocean where it will take months if years to find is pointless at all.

 

If you consider the evasion theory, the T7 requires a considerable landing strip and most if not all landing strips of that size are regulated and controlled. It would again still be picked up on surveillance radar and be landing at a time when it was most visible. There is still however zero information or factual data that it has been tracked any further west than the Andaman Sea. It was seemingly tracked by Thailand so therefore it would surely be tracked by Indian, Chinese or maybe even Tibetan radar but none of that happened. If MH370 had tracked north and to the west it would of been picked up somewhere, even if it had followed SIA68. I don't like speculation but the facts so far suggest to me that it has evaded radar very well for a good reason and that's because it must of flown to an area where radar activity is at a minimum and that describes a large expanse of ocean. I think the authorities are also thinking the same as Australia now begins their part in searching the Indian Ocean.

Would it be possible for EVERYONE to stop speculating on what has happened to that aircraft? No one knows what happened or where the aircraft or it's passengers are - it's all just theories. Unless either the aircraft or parts of it, or the black box recorders themselves, are found, it is highly likely we will never know the fate of the people on board that aircraft. So until something is found, this continued speculation and proposing of theories is as pointless and futile as trying to get water from a rock.

Would it be possible for EVERYONE to stop speculating on what has happened to that aircraft? No one knows what happened or where the aircraft or it's passengers are - it's all just theories. Unless either the aircraft or parts of it, or the black box recorders themselves, are found, it is highly likely we will never know the fate of the people on board that aircraft. So until something is found, this continued speculation and proposing of theories is as pointless and futile as trying to get water from a rock.

+1000

 

Plus the fact, that it doesn't show any respect for the people involved in this unbelievable situation.

It is purely disgusting that flight simmers post FS movies about MH370 on YouTube or Facebook. It makes me absolutely speechless.