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What are the odds - Skydiver almost hit by meteorite

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What are the odds of catching a shot of a meteorite when jumping from an aeroplane as it passes by you?

 

According to geologist Hans Amundsen - of the Natural History Museum in Oslo - this is the first ever film of a meteorite falling through its dark flight stage. The chances of this happening, according to the scientist, are "much less likely than winning the lottery three times in a row."

 

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Saw this on the news last night. Crazy stuff. Now they're trying to locate where the meteorite hit the ground.

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That is absolutely insane. Lucky he got it on video! 

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I hope he bought a lottery ticket!

 

Crazy

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What are the odds of catching a shot of a meteorite when jumping from an aeroplane as it passes by you?

 

What are the odds of a similar meteorite striking a Boeing 777 shortly after reaching cruise alt. and causing catastrophic damage & depressurization?

Such an event would seem to fit what is known of the disappearance of Malaysian Flight 370.

( In 1963 an Air Canada DC8 plunged almost vertically into a swamp. There was literally nothing visible of the airplane. Such a crash in jungle might be virtually invisible to search planes.)

january 

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I'm guessing that's a practical joke.  Probably started circulating on April Fool's day.

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What are the odds of a similar meteorite striking a Boeing 777 shortly after reaching cruise alt. and causing catastrophic damage & depressurization?
Such an event would seem to fit what is known of the disappearance of Malaysian Flight 370.

 

I would have to say no.

 

The speed of a meteorite would obliterate a 777 and MH370 was tracked on radar and pinged on satellite

 

 

 


( In 1963 an Air Canada DC8 plunged almost vertically into a swamp. There was literally nothing visible of the airplane. Such a crash in jungle might be virtually invisible to search planes.)

 

I have no idea where you are getting this from because Air Canada commenced operations on 1 January 1965. .

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I'm guessing that's a practical joke.  Probably started circulating on April Fool's day.

 

 

I had the same thoughts as well, due to this being in Europe and it is not yet summer there, that kind of gives it away.

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My wife was no more than a hundred feet from something that fell from the sky some years back.  She was walking along the beach.  I was some ways behind her.  The flaming object landed in the water.  From the bright green color, I would surmise that it was mostly copper and therefore a piece of space junk that de-orbited.

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I would have to say no.

 

The speed of a meteorite would obliterate a 777 and MH370 was tracked on radar and pinged on satellite

 

 

 

 

I have no idea where you are getting this from because Air Canada commenced operations on 1 January 1965. .

Depends on the size of the particle- always remember e=mc(squared) !

I would guess a grain of sand/small pebble size might make a hole similar to a 50 cal bullet.

 

You are technically correct- the DC8 that crashed at St Therese Que. was operated by TCA (Trans Canada Airlines- 1938) which was renamed Air Canada in 1965.  (as prep for privatization from gov't ownership as I recall.)

I flew out of Calgary on another DC8 a few hours after the crash- you have never seen a more subdued load of passengers- almost total cabin quiet and a lot of pale faces -all listening to mysterious flap and gear hydraulic sounds! 

january

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My wife was no more than a hundred feet from something that fell from the sky some years back.  She was walking along the beach.  I was some ways behind her.  The flaming object landed in the water.  From the bright green color, I would surmise that it was mostly copper and therefore a piece of space junk that de-orbited.

Wow that must have been somthing!  It is said that tons of material fall to earth each day. so maybe it isnt as unlikely as it seems ... it is a wild weird world after all even without people!

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It is said that tons of material fall to earth each day. so maybe it isnt as unlikely as it seems ...

 

A little research says that perhaps 19,000 meteorites of over 3.5 oz. are intercepted by Earth each day.

Earth acquires about 100 tons of dust sized micro meteorites daily.

A few each day, are the size of a baseball or basketball. And it's said that once a week or so, earth is hit by a rock the size of a car!

So remember that, the next time you are sipping a cool one at 40,000 ft. !!!

january

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The speed of a meteorite would obliterate a 777

 

Not necessarly. Some meteorites slows down in the atmosphere to the point were they fall like freefall

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I would think he would have to be on the ground for a 'meteorite' to hit him. Maybe a meteoroid on the way to becoming a meteorite could possibly hit him while still in flight.

Regards,

Ray

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I would think he would have to be on the ground for a 'meteorite' to hit him. Maybe a meteor on the way to becoming a meteorite could possibly hit him while still in flight.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

According to Hubblesite-

"Most of us probably have seen meteors or shooting stars. A meteor is the flash of light that we see in the night sky when a small chunk of interplanetary debris burns up as it passes through our atmosphere. "Meteor" refers to the flash of light caused by the debris, not the debris itself.

 

The debris is called a meteoroid. A meteoroid is a piece of interplanetary matter that is smaller than a kilometer and frequently only millimeters in size. Most meteoroids that enter the Earth's atmosphere are so small that they vaporize completely and never reach the planet's surface.

If any part of a meteoroid survives the fall through the atmosphere and lands on Earth, it is called a meteorite. Although the vast majority of meteorites are very small, their size can range from about a fraction of a gram (the size of a pebble) to 100 kilograms (220 lbs) or more (the size of a huge, life-destroying boulder).

Asteroids are generally larger chunks of rock that come from the asteroid belt located between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter.

Comets are asteroid-like objects covered with ice, methane, ammonia, and other compounds that develop a fuzzy, cloud-like shell called a coma and sometimes a visible tail whenever they orbit close to the Sun. "

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I stand corrected & cover my head in shame! METEOROID appears to be the correct term.

january

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I'm not meticulous, I'm meticuloid, except on those days, like today, I'm simply meticul.

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I am a firm believer that "asteroid" and "hemorroid" are name-reversed!

After all, wouldn't the name of a thing that hurts one's tushie be an "ASSteroid"??

 

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  Further to the possibility that Flight 370 could have been brought down by a meteoroid strike - there is the report that a worker on an oil platform offshore from Viet Nam, claimed to have seen a streak of fire, which he thought was a plane on fire- plunging earthward. This sighting occurred at the same time as 370's last radio transmission.

  At the time it was the first clue and was briefly, seriously investigated- until some days later, when new reports claimed military radar had seen a blip west of Malaysia over the Strait of Malacca. 

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 A tiny meteoroid punching through a wing tank like a cannon shell, would likely create a flaming jet of fuel as reported.

  Much other damage would be likely, including depressurization, and perhaps loss of radio comm. Staggering west to reach an adequate runway, 370 might finally have became unflyable and then plunged into jungle terrain- perhaps in either Malaysia or Indonesia (Sumatra?)

A near vertical crash might leave such a small footprint as to be almost undetectable by airborne searchers.

january

 

 

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"A tiny meteoroid punching through a wing tank like a cannon shell..."

 

It would have slowed down to freefall speed by the time it reached the plane.  Of course if the plane and the meteoroid collided then the plane's speed would itself be enough to cause major damage to the plane.

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Sorry guys and gals, but this thread, which I gather was supposed to be about a fun Youtube video, has now just diverged into teh stoopid.

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Sorry guys and gals, but this thread, which I gather was supposed to be about a fun Youtube video, has now just diverged into teh stoopid.

 

 

Agreed,

 

If anyone thinks it is plausible that MH370 was brought down by a Meteorite, or a Skydiver, or a meteorite bounced off a skydiver sending the skydiver into the right engine and then the meteorite felt bad for that so it proceeded to enter the aircraft in the cargo door, then attempted to gain access to the flight deck where the meteorite tried to save the day by landing it at Scott Base where that aircraft has been this entire time.....That could be discussed in this thread right here:

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/436839-malaysian-flight-370/

 

Otherwise this thread is about a meteorite and a skydiver, what are the odds, or was this event even real or another April Fools Day hoax....nothing to do with MH370

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"A tiny meteoroid punching through a wing tank like a cannon shell..."

 

It would have slowed down to freefall speed by the time it reached the plane.  Of course if the plane and the meteoroid collided then the plane's speed would itself be enough to cause major damage to the plane.

Meteoroids enter our upper atmosphere at speeds of 10-70 km / second- that is 36000 km/hr at the slow end of the range.

Those that survive to earth are travelling at a few hundred km / hr.

The atmosphere is pretty thin at 35000 ft where Fl 370 was reported, so a meteoroid is still moving along fast enough to do a lot of damage to an aluminum object in its path! Slowed to perhaps 5-35 km / second?

A rifle bullet by contrast has a muzzle velocity in the vicinity of 2600 FEET/ second.

january

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Again. We are all shocked by MH370. But that doesn't mean every thread on Avsim has to be turned into MH370. After a month of this some of us need a break from it.

 

Discuss MH370 in the appropriate thread

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