This might be of help..

 

http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/ils.htm

This might be of help..

 

http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/ils.htm

 

Thanks Jay. Sure, I have that info in my exercise books! I have seen and digested, but I tend to forget things these days! I will have to brush up on things...

Yea I had this problem in the NGX landing at LGA. The course was messed up and had me landing next to the runway. I was very new at using the plane so I couldn't figure out what was wrong until I looked at the FSX map and saw the ILS course was different in FSX than what was on the FMC. 

Sportsfan, how did you resolve the lga problem with the NGX?

 

 

Make sure you update your navaids on this site: http://www.aero.sors.fr/navaids2.html

 

While a good suggestion, this won't do much for most airports worldwide.  This data will update enroute navaids, but on-airport navaids (like ILS's) are not updated, other than a handful in Europe.  I'd also advise that anyone looking to use these updates read the site carefully to understand the tradeoffs involved, as there are some downsides to making the change.

 

Again, I don't say this to minimize the value of Jaime's comment - I use these updates as well - only to clarify them.

 

Scott

Sportsfan, how did you resolve the lga problem with the NGX?

 

I didn't, when landing there I just manually land the plane. 

 

 

An extreme example of this being the good old VHHX approach!

Usually, when u look at a plate and it indicates ils rw xx with a letter behind it, it is not an ils that is in sync with the extended center line. (Not always)

 

That approach for Kai Tak wans't  ILS.

 

I doubt a letter behind "Ils rw xx" has anything with ILS aliment with extended centerline. If facility is offset that's not ILS anymore, it can be LOC, LDA, IGS approach but not ILS. 

Thanks Jay. Sure, I have that info in my exercise books! I have seen and digested, but I tend to forget things these days! I will have to brush up on things...

I thought with over 3500 posts you might have seen it before  :-)

I doubt a letter behind "Ils rw xx" has anything with ILS aliment with extended centerline. If facility is offset that's not ILS anymore, it can be LOC, LDA, IGS approach but not ILS.

 

I didn't think im my haste. A letter behind a procedure means that there are multiple approaches of the same kind with different procedures to the same rw.

 

Some ils approaches are offset though.

 

An example would be ils 22r at kjfk or ils 25 enbo an even better one.

 

Wether you doubt it or not, there are many ils apps that do not line up with the rw center line.

By ICAO PANS OPS, max offset for ILS is 5 degrees. Now, the fact contracting states doesn't like to follow SARPs doesn't help to find out what is the max offset one can find in the world.

 

In theory I can buy an island, proclaim a new country, and say: "At my airport ILS can be up to 100 degrees offset!"  B)

I thought with over 3500 posts you might have seen it before  :-)

 

Sure Jay, as I said, I have seen and read the info some time ago. I'm just fairly new when it comes to following the correct protocols for ILS landings and so forth. It's only fairly recently that I decided I wanted to take my simming to the 'next level' so I'm learning a lot of stuff I should already have known! :blush: :smile:

Sure Jay, as I said, I have seen and read the info some time ago. I'm just fairly new when it comes to following the correct protocols for ILS landings and so forth. It's only fairly recently that I decided I wanted to take my simming to the 'next level' so I'm learning a lot of stuff I should already have known! :blush: :smile:

Once you get the basics of t he ILS down they are the easiest approach, in fact they make you lazy :-)

To be mutual, I've just started reconsidering manual approaches!     :lol:

Once you get the basics of t he ILS down they are the easiest approach, in fact they make you lazy :-)

 

Sure, I agree Jay, but in my defence, I always fly a manual landing from about a mile out.

Sure, I agree Jay, but in my defence, I always fly a manual landing from about a mile out.

Me too Howard, usually from the OM, helps keep my skills up "flying the needles"

A quick question on topic. IN PMDG NGX, when in APP mode on ILS I cannot change the course knob once the FMC adjusts it. Is there a way to adjust the course in the FMC to adjust the line up issue (I'm not talking about approaches where the path is not directly across the threshold, but rather one in which it should be lined up).

 

thanks

 

rob