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What is FS Global Mesh?

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I have ORBX Global, ORBX Vector, and I'm currently downloading ORBX FTX openLC Europe.   Is there something separate called FS Global MESH?  I don't ever remember this product or downloading it.   Please let me know if this is something that should be part of the whole package....assuming I want to be able to have the complete and total scenery complements.

 

If there is such a separate product, I can't believe I've missed the discussion on it.

 

Stan

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It's an addon that provides detailed elevation information for the whole world.

Makes a lot of difference for scenery, if you ask me. It wasn't really discussed because this isn't something new -- we already had FS Global Ultimate. I'm not sure if it's the same addon. Someone will explain better than me. :P

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Its just mesh. You need to have mesh, in fact everyone needs mesh to define The landscape.

It doesn't need to be PILOTS it can be any high quality mesh

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It's junk, save your money. It's not Orbx but Pilots. 

It is excellent mesh along with Global Extreme mesh.

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FSX already has a 38 to 300 meter mesh, changing the mesh can lead to differences in plateau height at airports, and can get a bit meshy. I've been flying around in the stock mesh with FTXG+V+oLC, seems quite good with respect to rivers in valleys, cliffs and so on. Depends very much on area, but a lot of places can look more or less the same with an add-in 19m mesh. You'll most likely want the best mesh you can get if you're going to do it. The quality of the source data and processing the mesh count's more than the ultimate resolution. FSX can only load a certain amount of mesh data, so as you increase the resolution, the area around the plane showing the mesh is reduced. In busy areas you may see mountains suddenly appear as they pop up on the horizon.

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It's junk, save your money. It's not Orbx but Pilots. 

That's one of the most banal statements I've read on here! and it's backed with no explanation as to why it's junk.

As explained by Gabriel it provides detailed elevation information for the whole world, so where FSX shows the land as being flat or not having much detail in mountainous areas FS Global will vastly improve that detail. it doesn't offer texture or stuff like that. 

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It's junk, save your money. It's not Orbx but Pilots. 

 

Geez.  What a ridiculous statement.  Spilok!!  You need mesh!!  FSGlobal Ultimate is the current hot trick, but others work well too.  DoubleJ!!  You, sir are an &@($*...

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OK....That explains a lot.  I will investigate.   I appreciate it.

 

Stan

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Greeting All,

 

The FS Global FTX compatible mesh is THE terrain mesh used by the Orbx design teams when they are designing their products. By my way of thinking, it makes sense to use the same mesh that the designers use... Which I do and am very satisfied with.

 

Respectfully,

 

Brian

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The FS Global FTX compatible mesh is THE terrain mesh used by the Orbx design teams when they are designing their products.

 

Actually, for the Orbx Regions they rely on Holger Sandmann's mesh; which they then very carefully match to the proper airport elevations along with the river polygons.

 

To me; with the exception of the Orbx Regions, the anomalies created by high resolution mesh are more noticeable than the benefits so I stopped using it.

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To me; with the exception of the Orbx Regions, the anomalies created by high resolution mesh are more noticeable than the benefits so I stopped using it.

 

 

I mostly use photoscenery so I want a mesh that is as detailed as possible to bring out the details in the sat imagery, I can fix any elevation issues.

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Greetings All,

 

Mman, your information is a bit dated. Holger did indeed do mesh work for some of the earlier Orbx stuff, most notably Australia. However, this is taken from the "FTX Definitiive Orbx Product Guide (Feb 2014), page 6:

 

FS Global 2010: FTX Edition

This product is actually not an ORBX product, but has been developed by Pilot's Software in close collaboration with ORBX.

FS Global 2010 has already established itself as a top quality worldwide terrain mesh, the FTX edition simply provides a downloadable version. ****It is also the mesh used by the ORBX developers and testers.****

 

Respectfully,

 

Brian

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Holger is still part of the Orbx team and has been doing his magic on the latest U.S. regions..

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The following Orbx regions all use Holger's mesh:
AU Australia
EU England
NA Pacific Northwest, Pacific Fjords, Northern Rocky Mountains, Central Rocky Mountains, Southern Alaska
NZ North Island, South Island

 

Working for Orbx instead of Pilot's, it stands to reason Holger has nothing to do with Pilot's Global mesh. With Orbx developers and testers working on Global (fixing thousands of errors and working on landclass) it requires the use of Pilot's mesh.

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Greetings All,

 

You know, one thing we forgot to do was ask the OP, Spilok what his style of flying is. After all, all you airline types won't find high resolution mesh near as useful as I will flying GA in central Idaho.

 

Additionally, the FTX Compatible version comes with a handy "Airport Elevation Correction" utility that mitigates the worst of the plateau effects, though nothing helps when Microsoft puts the Airport in the wrong place. For example, my home field of ID85 is misplaced 1-1.5 Km east of where it should be. In FSX & P3D, that puts it inside the ridge... Orbx correctly places it in the valley where it belongs, while the Butte and said ridge are much more realistic after adding Pilot's (or FSGenesis') mesh.

 

Points to ponder. Respectfully,

 

Brian

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To see the benefits of 10m mesh you have to be flying real close to the terrain. Look at this thread discussion http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/10m-mesh-shows-little-change-over-default.427327/ I had at FSDeveloper about this subject. Click on the small photo in the bottom of the thread ( or here: http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/attachments/stuart-island-mesh-jpg.15873/ ) for an enlarged view of 10m mesh at Stuart Island, Washington and notice that mainly the foreground really shows the advantage of using 10m mesh.

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The FS Pilot/Global/Ultimate mesh is good, but be prepared to reserve some 100 Gb of HD space and 3-4 hours to install!

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The FS Pilot/Global/Ultimate mesh is good, but be prepared to reserve some 100 Gb of HD space and 3-4 hours to install!

 

 

Your mileage may vary.  Took my computer maybe 30 minutes, but yes, I've heard it can indeed be that long.

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Do most of you just get the AMERICAS mesh, or do you buy it all?  Is FX Global ULTIMATE the one to go for?

 

Stan

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Do most of you just get the AMERICAS mesh, or do you buy it all?  Is FX Global ULTIMATE the one to go for?

 

Stan

 

I just bought the Americas since, as pointed out above,  the mesh does take up a lot of space and I only ever fly in the USA with only the rarest (once every year or two) trips to Europe.  My VA is largely a USA only operation and the biggest, fastest airplane I personally fly is a King Air (my choice only).

 

Yes, I bought the Global Ultimate and am well satisfied.

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Thanks, Woodhick.

 

I'll buy Ultimate today.

 

Stan

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Thanks, Woodhick.

 

I'll buy Ultimate today.

 

Stan

Hello Stan, I was reading the post with great interest as i am in the same position now.

I thought if i bought the FTX Global+Vector+Europe I would be sorted but I seen a video on youtub displaying FTX Orbtx packages but it had a FS Global Mesh 2010 as well, and I am thinking, a crap more complications lol

So I'm just wondering what did you purchase the FS Global Mesh 2010 or the Ultimate Mesh and are you happy with your purchase.

 

Elaine

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FWIW, just yesterday, I installed the Pilot's Ultimate The Americas mesh and what a difference it makes! While on approach to TJSJ, I was able to see PR as I remember it. Mountains, valleys and tons of hills splattered all over the metro San Juan area, just as in real life. It's amazing how much it did for immersion by just having a better mesh addon installed. I highly recommend it!

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