The download speed of ES products using ESI has always been very fast for me, so I can only assume that it is under heavy load (hopefully) or maybe there is a problem with the ISP (possibly). Some people really don't like ESI, but I have never had a problem with it. Having said that, I do prefer to download my addons with installers "built in", so that I can store backups on separate disks.

Bearing in mind it's large size, has anyone monitored how it affects VAS usage or encountered OOM problems in FSX with the Isle of Man scenery?

 

Bill

Bearing in mind it's large size, has anyone monitored how it affects VAS usage or encountered OOM problems in FSX with the Isle of Man scenery?

 

Bill

Heya Bill, 

 

    I OOM'ed about 15 minutes into a full-leaded flight. I haven't had the time to investigate knobs/sliders to reduce the VAS load (been one hell of a day moving my new Bachelor of Arts graduate out of her apartment - three stories, no elevator/lift), but it was really spectacular while it lasted!    

 

John 

Heya Bill, 

 

    I OOM'ed about 15 minutes into a full-leaded flight. I haven't had the time to investigate knobs/sliders to reduce the VAS load (been one hell of a day moving my new Bachelor of Arts graduate out of her apartment - three stories, no elevator/lift), but it was really spectacular while it lasted!  

 

John 

 

Thanks John,

 

That was my concern given that it is 12 GB of scenery crammed into a relatively small area presumably without a lot of repeating textures etc which will put more demands on VAS. I used to spend holidays on the Isle of Man as a kid and have flown in there a few times in the RW so I was quite keen to get it but I might hold off for a little while. By the way, been there a few years ago with two daughters at university, 4x4/SUV packed to the roof and no lifts/elevators in their places either - I sympathise with you!!

 

Bill

Bill it's all about settings I can make pretty much anything OOM in 15mins if I want to...on a side note I've found that P3D2 is much more forgiving VAS wise and switching between external views a lots is the biggest killer. I've not OOMed while simply in the VC at all.

Hi Kevin,

I understand that it is all about settings and I admit that I tend to run mine a bit high for VFR flights, but I have found in the past that photographic scenery (I don't use it much now) tends to eat into the VAS fairly quickly even if everything is not maxed out. With somewhere like ES Isle of Man, my concern is that moving the sliders to the left may tend to degrade the visual quality of what clearly is exceptionally good scenery and defeat the purpose of using it! Have you found that lowering your settings has much of an adverse effect on the overall appearance here?

Bill

There's always a trade off, but I found that was much less in P3D2. mostly I've turned down the autogen one notch because my PC is a good few years old now, water in FSX goes way down on the slider as well. I think it's my GPU that causes most of my FSX probs, tend to get spikes after about 15 mins regardless of where I fly and in what scenery. p3D2 is much better, no spikes, and only OOMs when I slew around a lot quickly or change external views a LOT. P3D2.3 has never OOMed for me on a normal flight an I tend to have everything turned up full (bad I know) except sometimes the building autogen slider.

Unfortunately I don't have P3D2 yet Kevin but I have been thinking about it. Generally, with a few exceptions usually in  resource intensive scenery areas  combined with flying a resource intensive aircraft, I can manage the settings on FSX to avoid an OOM, but the Isle of Man looks like one challenge too far for FSX! Perhaps I should wait to get it until I have P3D2!

 

Bill

There's no doubt that ES scenery can be cutting edge, All I can say is I haven't had any probs myself, YMMV of course. If its on 50% off its a steal and IMHO you'd be daft not to try it even if you turn the settings down a bit.

 

I consider any scenery like that an investment in the future and expect to be able to run it better on whatever hardware/sim I'm running a year from now That outlook hasn't failed me yet

Hey all,

 

I hear Isle of Man is one to get, what about the other islands?  From what I read on this thread, is that these sceneries work in P3Dv2 -- anybody have any issues yet? and what is up with their website speed

The other sceneries are just as good IMO but IOM was larger.

 

Guernsey seems to extract the heaviest toll on fps and I run that usually with autogen turned down just a bit so my system can keep up.

 

I reviewed IOM last year and the only negative I could find was the night lighting didn't work for me in P3D2 back then. They've definitely improved and updated it since then as the night lighting in the new Autogenesis works perfectly in P3D2.3. . (See my short video here:

)

 

I don't know whether the other sceneries install by default into P3D2, because I bought them all right back before P3D2 existed and manually installed all the parts across from my FSX install . The Estonia migration tool may work or not I haven't tried it.

 

What I can say with certainty is that it is definitely possible to run them flawlessly in P3D2, and I found it easy to do myself. I'm sure Darren would be willing to help anyone who wants to do it, (just raise a support desk ticket), and maybe he could tell us if the current sceneries are capable of installing by default into P3D2 like Autogenesis?

 

Cheers K

I intend to conduct some flight tests in high detail scenery areas in P3D v2.3, to see how far I can push the VAS management. I will report back when I have some answers with respect to ES software. These tests will be done first without any AI planes flying around, because I want to test the raw performance of P3D on my new PC without any complications :wink:

Ok, So I have had a little play time with Earth Simulations Isle of Man.

Its the best looking Rural - Big Town scenery I have ever seen.

Works very well on high setting with Default P3D V2 GA aircraft.

However, I had to reduce the setting a great deal to get a smooth experience

with the Milviz 407. But it still looked fantastic. At the sale price this is

a no brainer! I might snap up the Scilly Isles too:-)

 

nice video thanks

I found the building accuracy v real life was absolutely astounding!

Great to see some videos.  Thanks for making and posting them!