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OPEN BETA/COMMUNITY PROJECT: OSM World

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Mario, have you dealt with countries not having information, neither in SHP or zipped OSM? I'm currently thinking about how to do with Paraguay, Venezuela and the Guyanas, since I'll have to extract them from the South American OSM file.

 

Other thing: how big is the biggest territory you've dealt in a single shot? I'm also thinking about how to deal with Brazil (which can be as big as Western Europe). With Argentina I had to split the country in 3, because I ended losing roads. The 4 x 4 degree method you proposed means a lot of work for bigger areas. The other countries don't go over 1.5 million km².

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

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  • Luis Hernandez
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    I've just seen this in the library:   http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=194424&CatID=fs2004scen   Do you think it will be a good complement to OSM World?

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    I have been in talk with the guy behind it... still need to find time to test it out!   It is  a land-class, and it covers the entire globe, so if you want more city detail this will do! (OSM covere

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Hmm, yes! I will see if I have said countries myself, downloaded time ago! sometimes searching in google for them will pop out a useful result!

The 4x4 method applies more to lakes than roads! Although sometimes you can just make an entire country in one shot there... it is all about file size! generally, avoid files being bigger than 20 MB as a rule!

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Which file should be the one under 20 MB? The BLN, the SCM or the BGL?

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

OK, I got all South American roads, rails and rivers, except for Brazil. For some strange reason, the SHPs that Geofabrik hosts show no powerlines for South America.

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

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I don't know about powerlines, but living in Peru for a year and half is enough to understand why... in most countries here the electrical grid looks like a colossal octopus fight!! there is illegal and/or improvised derivations and connections all over the place!! We got to work with what we have...

 

Luis you are working darn fast! once we get Brazil we have to get lakes and coastlines up! I have done a 4x4 sector and a half so far... then it is tiume for the masking landclass and the excludes... Andy is supposed to be working on lakes!

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OK, I got all South American roads, rails and rivers, except for Brazil. For some strange reason, the SHPs that Geofabrik hosts show no powerlines for South America.

 

It will be very kind of you to upload the countries .shp.zip files you got from BBBike to the repository (source folder)so when we get to their lakes we work on the same sources!

 

Also I found a way to download the "missing lakes" that have been reported lately. It involves selecting a bounding box via BBBike, and then copying the coordinates to the floowing XML script to be run on the Turbo Overpass API:

<osm-script output="xml" timeout="150"> 
     <union>
          <query type="way">
               <has-kv k="natural" v="water"/> 
               <bbox-query  w="4.184" e="4.323" s="51.335" n="51.42" />
          </query>
     </union>
     <union>
          <item />
          <recurse type="down"/>
     </union>
     <print mode="body" />
</osm-script>

Then, if the script goes well, you can use QGIS plugin QuickOSM to gewt a shapefile out of it rightaway by applying the same code above... and process your lake polygons as usual, after removing any non-water stuff that may be present!

The two errors so far (in lake constanz, and antwerp) are solved, and will be included in next update I'll release next week-end possibly! There may be a "more aggressive" landclass mask included as I had a report of "water squares" ...

 

Also, I have done 6 4x4 sectors for South american coastlines, amounting to about 4% of the total work for coastlines...

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Would be nice indeed to share it as I am working on lakes :)

 

Otherwise, I can continue on Oceania (Ocen), which is 1/3 finished (New Zealand).

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Otherwise, I can continue on Oceania (Ocen), which is 1/3 finished (New Zealand).

 

What have you done so far for Oceania? being it a fairly small area, you may get it done, unless you are already working on south american lakes... I think we are better off concentrating on one area at a time to avoid dipersion...

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For New-Zealand: Coastlines, shorelines rivers, lakes, roads

 

Although, I am using other sources as well (from the LINZ data service) to make it a bit easier.

Andreas Paul

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...just get oceania done! then you can move on to SAME :)

upload Ocen to the dropbox when , so we can chek it out when done! it appears it will be done all by yourself as well :), just stick to the basics on how to cover the entire area to avoid teething problems! do not forget the excludes, land class mask and .BAT istall helper... I'll help out as I can bu I am working on south america so it is mostly all up to you!

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yesss! ;-)

Andreas Paul

It will be very kind of you to upload the countries .shp.zip files you got from BBBike to the repository (source folder)so when we get to their lakes we work on the same sources!

 

Oops, shame on me! Where can I upload them? To the repository you sent me via PM?

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

A potential but minor issue I've come accross: If we use the region boundaries from LWMviewer, some islands that are currently not in FS2004 will be left out.

 

Also, with the coastlines of the Northern part of SAME, be aware that only the Dutch Antilles are part of SAME. Te leeward island such as St Lucia are part of NAME.

 

Would you guys be interested in a shapefile with LOD5 cells as polygons for each region? It might be better to work based on those cells since it makes it harder to break FS2004 since its Terrain is built around LOD5 cells.

 

Also, a little preview of OSM World New Zealand, done with the help of Mario's instructions, OSM data and LINZ data. The mesh is the old GeographX Mesh, the landclass is not available for download anymore, unfortunately. Send me a PM if you need it.

 

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