Here is a very good video of this aircraft's features:

 

 

John

Another look as well via YT 

 

That first video really shows some cool features that seem like they would add to the immersion a lot.

 

I think I might just get this, it would only be my second XP add-on but it looks better than the fsx version

Its amazing how advanced X-plane is in certain ares like the moving can lights to me thats just so cool.

You have to remember on approach you go from flaps 0 to to flaps 17, which is a fair amount of extension, you'll have the nose pitching up due to the increased lift, a reduction in airspeed due to the additional drag, and the stall speed being lowered, so ideally on approach you want to simultaneously trim nose down while extending flaps 17, that should help control the attitude.

I don't think this is correct.  Deploying flaps creates drag AND lift.  The drag should pull the nose DOWN while slowing the rate of descent.  I haven't heard of any aircraft pitch up when flaps are deployed.

A lot of it depends on your airspeed.  The faster you fly, the greater the pitch-up tendency when deploying flaps.  

 

Goran: this is a thread whose topic is a product that is in direct competition with yours.  Anything you say here could easily be interpreted as an attempt to undermine the credibility of the competition's product.  Please keep that in mind.

A lot of it depends on your airspeed.  The faster you fly, the greater the pitch-up tendency when deploying flaps.  

 

Goran: this is a thread whose topic is a product that is in direct competition with yours.  Anything you say here could easily be interpreted as an attempt to undermine the credibility of the competition's product.  Please keep that in mind.

Dan

There was no competition until you alluded to it.  This leads me to believe that YOU believe there is some kind of competition.

I made no mention of anything I was making nor was I correlating anything in this thread to any other add on in any platform being sold under any publisher.

I simply made an observation and wanted to make mention of it.  I even prefaced my reply with "I don't think this is correct."

Any interpretation made is up to the individual.

Sometimes it's best to read things for what they actually are, instead of making them something they are not.

 

On another note, it might be an idea for you to contact AVSIM admins and let them know you are actually a Commercial Developer so your status can be changed to reflect that.  Not being labelled a Commercial Developer allows you to promote products, especially yours, (such as this 1900D) with no repercussions, free of charge.  Something that is unfair towards known commercial developers who pay for advertising space on avsim.

 

 

On another note, it might be an idea for you to contact AVSIM admins and let them know you are actually a Commercial Developer so your status can be changed to reflect that.  Not being labelled a Commercial Developer allows you to promote products, especially yours, (such as this 1900D) with no repercussions, free of charge.  Something that is unfair towards known commercial developers who pay for advertising space on avsim.

 

As far as I can see, the label "Commercial Member" is written above Dan's (non-existing) user picture...?

Yes, I saw that. I can't be sure, but I think it was put there AFTER my post.

Welcome to the Commercial Developers Avsim Fraternity, Dan. Hope to see more of your posts around here.

"I haven't heard of any aircraft pitch up when flaps are deployed"

 

CESSNA 152.....Now you have.

 

(Particularly dangerous in a go around situation if the application of full throttle isn't matched with marked forward pressure on the yoke.)

 

TIM

"I haven't heard of any aircraft pitch up when flaps are deployed"

 

CESSNA 152.....Now you have.

 

(Particularly dangerous in a go around situation if the application of full throttle isn't matched with marked forward pressure on the yoke.)

 

TIM

Yes, I have found that the only way to compensate for the "lift" is to apply considerable forward pressure on the yoke.  Once it settles down, you can relax that pressure.  Using trim does not react fast enough to prevent the "lifting".  I agree that the C-152 and some other light aircraft have exhibited this response, but have never seen it on a heavier aircraft.  My inquiry was to equate it to real life as I have never flown this aircraft.  Didn't mean to stir up a "hornet's nest".

 

John

And, usually fowler flaps cause nose down pitching moment...

Also depends on the relation btween CL and CoG, which varies from high wing aircraft to low wing ones...

And the tail type plays it's effects too... 

 

In general, the use of flaps on a low wing aircraft "drags the bottom of the aircraft back", and since the force is applied bellow the CoG, the nose will tend to drop. The othet component comes from the deflected washout interference with the horizontal stab...

 

MS FLIGHT correctly modeled this on it's Van's RV6. Unfortunately designing aircraft using rw data and blueprints not always has the same effects as IRL, and

that's why Austin included some additional parametrization in Plane-Maker for fine tuning.... ( not a nice compliment to the BET method used though, IMO...)

 

Now, things are different on high wing aircraft...

 

I believe Goran meant "low wing aircraft" and not "fixed wing aircraft" as a whole.

 

 

But, from the B1900D POH:

 

- Lowering the flaps will produce this results:

 

--> ATTITUDE NOSE UP;      ( go figure, it's an interesting exercise, and there are solutions on the net... but there's an hin"T" above on this post :-) )

--> AIRSPEED REDUCED

--> STALL SPEED LOWERED

--> TRIM: Nose down adjustment required to maintain attitude

 

so.... indeed, apart from being extremely beautiful to look at from the videos posted on this thread, at least in as far as reaction to flap deployment goes, Dan's B1900D is also extremely correct :-)

I don't think this is correct. Deploying flaps creates drag AND lift. The drag should pull the nose DOWN while slowing the rate of descent. I haven't heard of any aircraft pitch up when flaps are deployed.

Any chance to take the Jetstream by X-Aviation for a ride? I really like to know why you post a statement like this here. You should know better.

Goran, Goran!  

Dan
There was no competition until you alluded to it. 

Really?  How does me alluding to it make or break your product's status as being a competing product?  Can you name any add-on in the market that would qualify as a competing product, if yours doesn't?  What constitutes a competing product in your mind?  

 

I made no mention of anything I was making nor was I correlating anything in this thread to any other add on in any platform being sold under any publisher.

Just because you make no explicit mention of the obvious, do you think it's OK for you to come on this thread and try to undermine the credibility of someone else's product and character?

 

I simply made an observation and wanted to make mention of it.  I even prefaced my reply with "I don't think this is correct."

And I'm simply asking you to refrain form making false observations that defame a competitor's products and reputation, no matter if you preface it with "I think".  

 

 

Any interpretation made is up to the individual.
Sometimes it's best to read things for what they actually are, instead of making them something they are not.

 

Why are you even reading this forum post?  What is your interest in what people say or think about this product?  There's plenty to read in here, especially for people who know you, your past, your attitudes, and even what you've gotten in trouble for on Avsim in the past.  Speaking of which:

 

On another note, it might be an idea for you to contact AVSIM admins and let them know you are actually a Commercial Developer so your status can be changed to reflect that.  Not being labelled a Commercial Developer allows you to promote products, especially yours, (such as this 1900D) with no repercussions, free of charge.  Something that is unfair towards known commercial developers who pay for advertising space on avsim.

 

 

Not only does AVSIM staff and many members in these forums know exactly my status in this community, but what you are trying to assert about me is false.  I have had the label "Commercial Member" for a very long time (I think over a year now), so please don't pretend as though there's no way of knowing whether it was just added after you mentioned it.  Again, this is a blatant attempt on your part to undermine my credibility, and stoke up controversy, and I will report this.

 

Further, you allude to ME promoting MY product.  This topic has been going on for 3 pages, without that I even got involved.  My first post in relation to the B1900 is directed towards addressing your post, not towards advertising the B1900.  Again, all of your accusations are baseless, and are worse than even what you are falsely trying to accuse me of: you're accusing me of sneakily trying to elevate my products, but what you are doing is, you are trying to systematically and falsely undermine my credibility and that of this product in this community.  

 

If this came from any non-commercial member in this community, of course it would be a different scenario… but since it's not hard to see what you're doing here, I think the community benefits from this added insight, and would agree with me that this is not appropriate.

 

Now I respectfully request again for you to refrain from getting involved in forum topics that deal with products yours is in competition with.

Please, Goran and Dan, consider that both of you MAY be overreacting on this issue...