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Install 2.4, or sit this one out?

Install 2.4, or sit this one out?  

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  1. 1. Install 2.4, or sit this one out?

    • Hold off--not really worth it
      12
    • Install it as a full install
      31
    • Install it as the patch per guide
      49


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A cheesy way to find out I know, but I'm a little short on free time right now and appreciate the recommendations of early adopters.  Thanks...

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The Jury is out on this one. for some it seems to improve things, for others, myself included, quite the opposite. If you are happy with v2.3, personally I'd stay with it.

However, mine is only one opinion from many differing views.

 

Phil Murfin

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Go for it - the people who have no issues are busy enjoying P3D and not posting in the forums.

 

We complained that FSX was no longer being developed and now we hesitate when P3D *IS* releasing updates???

 

My take is that anyone who is not ready to commit to the updates should forget P3D and stay with FSX where you don't have to deal with them.

 

A general statement - not picking on YOU Noel!  :P 

 

Vic

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Full 2.4 install, that's what I'm going to do. I tried the patch but things started to go wonky, and I have no clue what causes this. Like my custom contrail effect suddenly spawns sprites at 50% of their intended size and this evening the FTX vector lights jumped kind of into the scenery, only there where my view would go. At the arrival I got the OOM warning dong, which I haven't had for month's.

 

Next step: Full, clean install 2.4

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We complained that FSX was no longer being developed and now we hesitate when P3D *IS* releasing updates???

 

No Vic, it's not all or none.   With the pace of 'updates' coming, each so far having significant downsides here and there, it's totally valid to NOT install EVERY update coming out of LM.   These are ongoing beta-updates essentially, this IS NOT a polished, finished product.  It's a work in progress and that all well and good, but paying $200 for the 'privilege' of updating w/ every beta release?  If it adds A  LOT more than it takes away, then I'm ok w/ it.  It's sometimes hard to tell which is why I created the poll.  Thanks to everyone willing to test out releases as they appear.

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Disagree Noel - P3D is as finished a product as FSX and in fact is a better finished product. The difference is that MS took month or years to release an update and people were complaining about being beta testers then.

 

You've been around - like it or not it is the way of the software industry today so it's STANDARD release procedure for many vendors.

 

P3D is running perfectly on my system and so was FSX. The forums get the majority of users who are having issues. Read enough of them and you can pretty much tell that many, NOT ALL, of them shouldn't be allowed near a keyboard.

 

I hear a lot from people who are like me, having no major problems but we're too busy enjoying it.

 

As long as LM keeps developing it, P3D will be a work in progress but I maintain that as it stands right now, it is far better than the "finished" FSX.

 

Vic

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I don't know what you're disagreeing about.  I'm only fishing for opinions about whether 2.4 was worth the time and trouble.  I'm not complaining about LM Vic, I'm just not particularly inclined to patch 2.3 w/ 2.4, that's all, and wanted to hear some opinion, that's all.  What's to disagree about?  2.3 works quite fine for me though I'm not happy w/ the dampening they did w/ cloud lighting, contrast and color reflection.  It became very blunted w/ 2.3 and I haven't heard if any attention was paid by LM to address restoring some of what they took away.

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Just applying the patch didn't work for me.

A clean install of 2.4 worked.

 

I have all addons from my v2.3 working incl SweetFX.

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I patched and have had no problems since doing so, and therefore see no reason to avoid this update. The platform for me is 100% stable and is looking amazing.

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I patched it took a while and seemed like it was failing but i left it and it did finish, have not used much but i have had no issues

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I'm only fishing for opinions about whether 2.4 was worth the time and trouble.

There are always people seeing a half glass of water as "half empty" and others see it as "half full". That's human and has to be known.

Spirit

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Have to add that HDR has issues with bloom.

LM already knows it.

 

See my Topic about Bloom and v2.4

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I'm holding off for the moment.  System is running great and I don't feel I am missing anything too much by no updating.  Will wait a few months to see more feedback.

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I am on 2.4 now but probably going back to 2.3 because ezdok works and with 2.4 it wont start

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I followed Rob Ainscough's patch update procedure to the letter, and P3D appears to be working fine. Thanks, Rob B)

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For those who are reluctant to run the patch, do understand that you need to at least download the patch now while it is available, so it may be run at some future date...

 

...as well as all other patches you decide to 'skip.'

 

Otherwise, at some future point you will have no choice except to download the current full installer and run it.

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Not to forget all the compatible add-ons etc. which may not fit anymore for the P3D v2.3 if they were updated. Better stop updating them all from now on!!! This means a frozen P3D v2.3. Keep this in mind.

Spirit

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Otherwise, at some future point you will have no choice except to download the current full installer and run it.

 

Yeah...tell me about it  :lol:  :Cry:

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This poll is interesting.

It seems that 88% of users are pleased with this patch  :rolleyes: .

However, if you would read only messages in this forum, it seems that this number is much much lower. I had impression that maybe 20% was happy.

 

Some time ago, I have read interesting psychologic study, which said that 4 times more people are eager to share their bad experience than a good one.

It seems that this poll supports this thesis  ^_^ .

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Since I had to install a new SSD I had to do a full install and installed from a fresh Windows up, but after an evening of trying to straighten things out, I went back to 2.3

Had a smooth 2.3 with the latest Geforce driver, but in 2.4 stutter was back. I had crackling sound which I never had before and also object spikes were back...

 

I stick to 2.3

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1 of the area LM still needs to improve in is it`s update procedure.

 

Afull reinstall which needs 20 gigabytes of data transfer at pretty every update is not something that is logical to be required.

 

Updating should be progressed to get as close as possible to the convenience of having the program on for example Steam.

 

It is nice that the necessary *.cfg editting is significantly reduced to a minimum, but when updating all that kind of hassle is somewhat still there.

 

So it is completely understandable right now that someone wants to skip some updates sometimes to wait till about 3 updates later to patch everything up.

 

Anyways i think LM is making good progress and i`m sure they are thinking/working about things like this as well.

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Sticking with 2.3 will do a full reinstall with 2.5

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Thank you all for the responses.  From what I read here it appears 2.4 is not a no-brainer, and w/ the time I have to devote I'm going to stick w/ 'no-brainer' as the criteria to spend the time to uninstall and reinstall everything.  2.3 is actually excellent as is though I still wish LM would restore better lighting to clouds.  Perhaps that will happen in 2.5 in which case I consider that a no-brainer for me.

 

Cheers & again thanks!

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