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Nothing special about that?

 

Apart from the fact their latest scenery,  UUEE,  is also reduced.  :mad: 

 

Come in sucker ...

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I'll have to get UUEE too ... I am not sure I want to be reminded of the amount of airports I have bought in the last month ... sheesh. But here goes.

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I was going to pickup LaGuardia but I decided against it after spending the last couple of days trying to tweak the performance of NYCX in P3D V2.4.

 

I actually learned a lot from the experience but No matter what I did I could not get the lowest FPS above 12 or 13 flying over Manhattan in the Majestic Q400.

 

I can say I learned a lot because I tried the lowest texture resolutions in P3D with DSR and It was surprisingly good.

I am talking 512 x 512. It is effective and looks good in those extreme auto gen situation.

 

I understand DD are doing a rework of NYCX for P3DV2. It is the most compelling scenery I have ever seen in FS but I think that DD have something to prove.

 

I made one video using NYCX that worked almost perfectly in FSX but I have never seen it work as well since :-(

 

 

A year from now if they get it right I think this could be the best P3D V2.4 scenery package available but they definitely need to work on performance optimization because right now it just is not there.

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I was going to pickup LaGuardia but I decided against it after spending the last couple of days trying to tweak the performance of NYCX in P3D V2.4.

 

I actually learned a lot from the experience but No matter what I did I could not get the lowest FPS above 12 or 13 flying over Manhattan in the Majestic Q400.

 

I can say I learned a lot because I tried the lowest texture resolutions in P3D with DSR and It was surprisingly good.

I am talking 512 x 512. It is effective and looks good in those extreme auto gen situation.

 

I understand DD are doing a rework of NYCX for P3DV2. It is the most compelling scenery I have ever seen in FS but I think that DD have something to prove.

 

I made one video using NYCX that worked almost perfectly in FSX but I have never seen it work as well since :-(

 

 

 

A year from now if they get it right I think this could be the best P3D V2.4 scenery package available but they definitely need to work on performance optimization because right now it just is not there.

really amazing.....so real and it looked very smooth as well.

 

When you say that it only worked so good once....what do you mean?

Stutters?

OOMs?

Blurries?

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I bought the DD KJFK. I was tired of the damp (as in wet) looks of FSDT KJFK2. I been to JKF in real a couple times, I don't remember it being so damp.

 

I don't see much change in performance. The textures are low at some places, but overall much brighter than FSDT.

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really amazing.....so real and it looked very smooth as well.

 

When you say that it only worked so good once....what do you mean?

Stutters?

OOMs?

Blurries?

 

Yea, I made that video almost a year to the day ago and I cannot remember exactly the details. I had some trouble with the scenery in the first place with blurries but managed to iron those out. Can't remember how.

I did get a lot of Textures disappearing and reappearing and you can see a bit of that in the video. If I remember correctly that's the reason I was so happy with that particular attempt to make a video of the scenery because the textures where very stable throughout. I got a lot of textures disappearing and then reloading by sweeping across the city from one side of Manhattan to the other. Actually, If I remember correctly v1.1 worked better than v1.2 on my system. I changed to P3D V2 shortly after and it really doesn't work well in P3D V2 at all but then DD doesn't claim its compatible.

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Yea, I made that video almost a year to the day ago and I cannot remember exactly the details. I had some trouble with the scenery in the first place with blurries but managed to iron those out. Can't remember how.

I did get a lot of Textures disappearing and reappearing and you can see a bit of that in the video. If I remember correctly that's the reason I was so happy with that particular attempt to make a video of the scenery because the textures where very stable throughout. I got a lot of textures disappearing and then reloading by sweeping across the city from one side of Manhattan to the other. Actually, If I remember correctly v1.1 worked better than v1.2 on my system. I changed to P3D V2 shortly after and it really doesn't work well in P3D V2 at all but then DD doesn't claim its compatible.

silly idea maybe, but maybe the fact that you videoed it made it more stable?

 

I think a scenery like that is just too much for FSX when combined with PMDG type aircraft.

Which is why I never bought it.

I do have NY airports X and that worked ok last time I tried.

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Just a quick H-U: simMarket now also has Moscow UUDD (this one's by MDesign) on sale. A good performer and no popping up of apron 'clutter'.   :rolleyes:

 

(In case DD's UUEE got you started with the Moscow airspace.)

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Thanks for that H/u, Oliver, as I was not keen on going down DD's route.

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silly idea maybe, but maybe the fact that you videoed it made it more stable?

 

 

Nope that's not it. In fact I always find the flight experience is noticeably better than the video!

And my technique for selecting flights segments to make videos of kinda rules that out.

 

Again its a year since I recorded that clip but I am sure that the performance of DD NYCX is far better at that altitude than lower down at were you might be taking say a bell jet ranger tour of Manhattan. I believe it might even say so in the manual.

 

The scenery is incredibly detailed. DD used a great combination of what I believe was photo real and a kind of arty Gotham city style textures and it works very well. My guess is that the Gotham city style textures are not resource hungry and that's what makes the thousands of autogen building possible in such a small area.

 

It works at altitude and visually it works close up because of the artistry.

 

FS development must be though and if DD can address the performance issues they are on to a winner and with NYCX they certainly did something that is unique and clearly still a work in progress. I think they deserve the support of the FS Community so I will buy something DD soon at full price:-)

 

Check this one out. The NYCX scenery is unique:

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Stunning.....

 

I dont see any stutters in your simulation.

Is that smoothed out with video editing software?

 

I mainly fly airliners.....so it does not make sence to risk OOMs and other performance problems with these aircraft.

 

But if I ever install the Catana or the Catalina I bought a while ago (funny they sound similar but really arent) .....then I might just get a copy of DD NYCX.

 

thx for the videos.

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s that smoothed out with video editing software?

 

No that's the real deal! No enhancements at all! In fact the actual flight experience is typically better.

Now that I have replaced FRAPS with ShadowPlay that statement it less true.

 

Whenever I get comments that my system is awesome I feel the need to give credit where credit is due.

So these videos where made possible by NickN's expertise and my ability to follow a lot of detailed instructions exactly and nothing more :lol:

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Okay  I have decided to buy that DD scenery for KLGA.  Why?  SEVEN BUCKS is dirt cheap and safe bet. Heck one vendi size cup of Starbucks costs same!!!! And you do not get to keep Starbucks coffee forever!! But you can keep KLGA scenery forever if it works :)

 

How seven bucks??  Ok ok  DD is offering 30 percent off for all sceneries plus PC Avaitor website offers extra 10 percent off. That makes total of 40 percent off and it would be stupid of me to pass this chance up to see if it works on my laptop or not!!

 

When I have chance, I will let all of you know if DD's KLGA scenery can run well in my laptop!!

 

I have been waiting for FIVE YEARS to find decent KLGA scenery!!!

 

I installed DD's KLGA scenery and it seems to work very well without any problem in my laptop.

 

I do wish that DD would warn us that DD's KLGA scenery would automatically change your FSX's default settings.

 

According to DD,  their installer will automatically adjust the following settings: Ground scenery shadows (off), Bloom (off), Maximum texture resolution (4096x4096), Mesh resolution (2m) and vehicle/ship traffic (off).

 

It is easy to remember to turn on bloom or ground scenery shadows or vehicle/ship BUT it is hard to remember the past settings of Maximum texture resolution and Mesh resolution.

 

So far I do not see any problems while conducting ground testing on KLGA scenery in my laptop.  It looks it has same resource usage as Skysunjet KPHL scenery.

 

For SEVEN BUCKS,  it is GREAT price to buy KLGA scenery.

 

Next is to test DD KLGA in Vatsim environment, test take off from KLGA, and test landing on KLGA.  Will let all of you know.

 

Seven bucks is safe gamble. You would NOT need my reviews on DD KLGA as long as you remember your FSX's default settings before installation particularly settings for mesh and texture resolution.

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Yeah, I dont like developers messing with my FSX.cfg either.

 

So I asked Drzewiecki on their forum what they change in the .cfg for NY airports X.

Their answere:

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Here is the list of all values:

 

"GRAPHICS","TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD","4096");

"GRAPHICS","HIGHMEMFIX","1");

"Display","BLOOM_EFFECTS","0");

"GRAPHICS","GROUND_SHADOWS","0");

"TERRAIN","MESH_RESOLUTION","24");

"TrafficManager","AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY","0");

"TrafficManager","LeisureBoatsDensity","0");

"TrafficManager","GADensity","0");

"TrafficManager","ShipsAndFerriesDensity","0");

"TrafficManager","FreewayDensity","0");

 

Every change is required or recommended for a major performance increase.

 

unquote

 

 

And I decided to buy Miami City by DD today......looks like fun to install my Aerosoft Catalina finally and use Miami with that :-)

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Exactly!!!

 

Fortunately for me, I realized that I had FSX.CFG as back up 3 months ago somewhere in my laptop and retrieved that file for my amusement to see if there is difference between previous FSX.cfg and current present FSX.cfg.

 

While ignoring difference in bloom effect, ship/vehicle, and shadow effect as they are easy to remember to turn off or on, I did notice that the installation of DD's KLGA scenery did NOT make change to Maximum texture resolution which showed same number between previous and present FSX.cfg files.

 

Although I cannot find where Mesh resolution is located in previous and present FSX cfg files, I did notice that the previous FSX.cfg showed 50 percent of mesh setting and the present FSX.cfg showed 75 percent of mesh setting.  So in other words,  DD's scenery installation automatically just increased mesh resolution by 25 percent.  Looking at both FSX. cfg refreshened my memory. I remember before installation that I set 50 percent in Display tab of FSX settings and I noticed that after the installation of KLGA,  this Display Tab setting have been increased to 75 percent in everything.

 

Did not hurt my laptop's performance although.

 

KLGA scenery has famous original American Airlines hangers which pleases me.  I did notice one food cart truck on top of FSX default luggage tractor's trays but that is because I put on in the FSX settings for FSX default vehicles which might conflict with DD's vehicles considering the fact that DD calls for deactivation of FSX default vehicles.

 

I wish DD has specific gate numbers for famous shuttle building near runway where Delta and Eastern used for shuttles to Boston and DC.

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I grabbed KEWR loaded up the 777 and got the ding of death the second it opened, so I fired up my 1024 TML profile in Simstarter and VAS stayed at 3000 and FPS 20fps during several touch and goes. Nothing wrong with that! so I went to get 2 more airports but the sale is over...oh well DD have regular sales so will grab them next time

 

Im quite surprised DD would opt for 4096 TML considering OOM issues unless they figure we all mostly fly default aircraft..

 

This is really nice scenery and well worth the money even without the sale

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I continue testing DD's KLGA which still looks pretty good. It even has cool Marine Terminal with lots of yellow cabs and cool jetways.

 

Everything looks good. I just discovered wrong taxiway markings with wrong numbers that I notified DD which immediately agreed to fix it soon and release the correcting update.

 

So far I am very please and it is WORTH seven bucks to get very famous American Airline maintenance hangers that I have been waiting for years to find!! What more can I ask??  Everything looks great and cool!!!

 

Aharon

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Just received an email 

 

UUEE_Moscow_Sheremetyevo_X.exe

Changes in the v1.3 version (there is no need for customers to uninstall the previous version):

- No-jetways issue fully fixed
- Stuttering issue fully fixed

 

good news :-)

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Also EETN is fixed, and an update provided, although I didn't notice any stutters here.

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Og that's great news thanks Jude, I had bad stutters with EETN.   (Don't have UUEE as MDesign's Domodedovo fulfills my Moscow hub needs). :smile:

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