December 2, 201411 yr Hi i'm about to get some new saitek pedals. An very curious to learn how to perform a crosswind landing using saitek rudder pedals. If anyone knows the steps how to perform a crosswind landing please share? Mr Leny CPU I7 8700K @ 5.0GHz , MOBO -Asus Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC),GPU - GTX1080 TI , RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz SSD -Crucial MX500 1TB (P3D Install Only)OS- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (Window 10 Pro 64)
December 2, 201411 yr http://www.m0a.com/3-steps-perfect-crosswind-landings/ http://flighttraining.aopa.org/students/solo/skills/crosswind.html http://www.flyaoamedia.com/aoa/simplifying-crosswind-landings/ dv Win 10 Pro || i7-8700K || 32GB || ASUS Z370-P MB || NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11Gb || 2 960 PRO 1TB, 840 EVO My Files in the AVSIM Library
December 3, 201411 yr Some pretty god explanations here which apply equally to flightsim and real world. Main differences are that in the real world you can feel the sideslip and judge flare height with peripheral vision. IAN Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)
December 3, 201411 yr In case there's a need for motivation. Here's some! I don't think all pilots performed 'perfect' touchdowns but all of them lived on, so.. As for the sim, I think you have lots of fun to expect with your new pedals and you might even receive some more when using tools/mods to edit the 'on ice' behaviour of FSX. Accufeel and/or the FSUIPC-based mod on the ground friction (and sideload) might therefore be good ideas. Good in the sense of making the crosswind landings harder, so don't read that the wrong way. :o B)
December 3, 201411 yr Author Thanks guys , now i am very excited . So it all depends in which direction the winds are coming from? Also the wind speed? Mr Leny CPU I7 8700K @ 5.0GHz , MOBO -Asus Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC),GPU - GTX1080 TI , RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz SSD -Crucial MX500 1TB (P3D Install Only)OS- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (Window 10 Pro 64)
December 3, 201411 yr You approach crabbed in a cross wind, nose pointing into the wind. Just prior to touchdown, kick in the rudder to de-crab. The wing will dip, so be ready for aileron. Big passenger airliners often land crabbed, with the main gear touching down crabbed, and then de-crab before the nose wheel touches down. Better to de-crab prior to main gear touchdown of course, to minimise strain on the gear, but somewhat crabbed main gear touchdowns are common. The maximum crosswind an aircraft is permitted to land in depends on the type.
December 3, 201411 yr Now t You approach crabbed in a cross wind, nose pointing into the wind. Just prior to touchdown, kick in the rudder to de-crab. The wing will dip, so be ready for aileron. Big passenger airliners often land crabbed, with the main gear touching down crabbed, and then de-crab before the nose wheel touches down. Better to de-crab prior to main gear touchdown of course, to minimise strain on the gear, but somewhat crabbed main gear touchdowns are common.The maximum crosswind an aircraft is permitted to land in depends on the type. Now THAT's cool! Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
December 3, 201411 yr When you de-crab and enter a slip, doing worry if the down wind wing and wheel drops lower than the other. You'll notice going into the de-crab that something's gotta give in the balance and that tends to be the flat plane of the main gears. That's fine, and preferable to landing both the mains at the same time while still in crab... side loading the landing gear will cause damage or possibly send you off the edge of the runway during rollout. The de-crab into slip method is also referred to as the wing low method for this reason. Ethan Edelson
December 3, 201411 yr I think it is difficult to use low wing method on most of the airliners in FSX because a lot of them just don't slip as well as their real counterparts are said to be able to. I would prefer to enter a slip at decision height, but I'm much more successful crossing the controls and decrabbing during the flare. That way you only have to sustain the slip for a second. Even though when I read PMDG manuals they all say to adopt the slip earlier as the preferred method, I do see in those videos a lot of pilots decrabbing very close to touchdown.
December 3, 201411 yr I think it is difficult to use low wing method on most of the airliners in FSX because a lot of them just don't slip as well as their real counterparts are said to be able to. I would prefer to enter a slip at decision height, but I'm much more successful crossing the controls and decrabbing during the flare. That way you only have to sustain the slip for a second. Even though when I read PMDG manuals they all say to adopt the slip earlier as the preferred method, I do see in those videos a lot of pilots decrabbing very close to touchdown. I fully agree. While the de-crab to side slip method is ideal in theory, particularly for GA planes, I use the same method you do on the PMDG airliners, and I have seen airliner videos that show them de-crabbing even after the mains are down (like the one just above). Their landing gears are probably designed for high side-load forces, aided by the fact that these airliners have better lift-to-drag ratios than GA planes, and can put the main down in ground effect before the true weight of the airplane is unloaded onto the gear assembly. A wet or icy surface can also effect the ability to decrab after touchdown, like the video above which shows the 777 decrabbing on ice. The slickness of the surface must reduce the side-load forces to the rubber. There are also videos of airliners (typically 737s in my viewings) that were perfectly able to slip as though they were oversized GA planes. In FSX I am unable to maintain large slip angles for a long period of time in the NGX even, but similar to what you do I try to bring the nose to runway heading when I hear the 10ft AGL annunciator. Ethan Edelson
December 3, 201411 yr I think it is difficult to use low wing method on most of the airliners in FSX because a lot of them just don't slip as well as their real counterparts are said to be able to. I would prefer to enter a slip at decision height, but I'm much more successful crossing the controls and decrabbing during the flare. That way you only have to sustain the slip for a second. Even though when I read PMDG manuals they all say to adopt the slip earlier as the preferred method, I do see in those videos a lot of pilots decrabbing very close to touchdown. Before the Gulfstreams I flew heavies. In the both types, I've all ways used the wing low method. I like it because it gives me a chance to get warmed up. I usually start the wing low method at about 300ft. I get a good feel for it and it makes the flare easier. I don't have to judge how much rudder and time it in the flare. I keep the cross wind controls in and apply the flare easy peasy. In the DC10 and C141, the manuals did mention side load stress on the gear. Only KC135R guys would de-crab in the flare because the engines have low clearance since it has after market engines. Rick D http://g5flyer.tumblr.com/
December 3, 201411 yr In the sim I'd set up a strong crosswind, say 20 kts - a direct one (90 degrees from the runway heading). Fly a nice addon that allows for forward slips like a Realair or A2A plane and just practice low approaches. At first don't make any corrections and then try using ailerons and a combo of rudders to align your nose with the runway when you're below 50 ft. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
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