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I just came from the PMDG website where I wanted to review a possible purchase for FS9, only to find all their FS9 products have disappeared!  No sign of them under 'Products' nor in their online shop.  I hope this is a temporary aberation and not that they have stopped selling all FS9 versions of their products!

 

David (CYXE)

 

 

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http://www.amazon.com/PMDG-737-600-700-800-900/dp/B0043M64MY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1419888339&sr=8-2&keywords=pmdg+737

 

is the Aerosoft complete package of the four models sold by a third party via amazon for US $37.81 with shipping. It has UK in the title but I do not think that is relative. Stock is 7 left.

 

I have all four models (back in the day when you had to buy the two sets). The Aerosoft set comes with registration codes. You can also register the product with Aerosoft for any needed service packs and product support

 

I also suggest you look at Mike Ray's book on glass cockpit Boeings. It really made the FMC training easier and also goes into various flight situations such as icing capacity, etc. This is a PC Sim training manual.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Flying-Boeing-700-Flight-Simulators/dp/1453860819/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1419888339&sr=8-15&keywords=pmdg+737

 

I have the earlier version:

http://www.amazon.com/Flying-Boeing-700-Flight-Simulators/dp/1453860819/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1419888339&sr=8-15&keywords=pmdg+737

 

These cover the 700 glass cockpits so your covered for the 767 and 747.

 

Systems are not extensively covered but the documentation with the Aerosoft CD covers those. These Mike Ray manuals can really shorten the learning curve compared to using the Aerosoft-PMDG included documentation.

 

There are now by Mike 737NG manuals in the PC sim series but if you ever intend to get other models like the 767 and 747, the books I mentioned might be of better value.

 

There is also the user support forum here on AVSIM.

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Not too much in the pmdg fs9 product range apart from the 747 that is worthy of purchase anyway.

 

The MD-11 is excellent. The 737-600-900 series, although dated is still very comprehensive with a fully functioning FMC and aircraft systems.

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For FS9, I think the following products are best. (From someone who no longer uses FS9, but knows people who do)

 

  1. PMDG MD11
  2. iFly 737NG
  3. Project Tupolev Tu154M with KLN90B (free! and possibly more detailed than the aircraft below - Harder to install/use/fly though.)
  4. PMDG 747-400
  5. Level D 767

I don't have an opinion on Turboprops or GA however.

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For FS9, I think the following products are best. (From someone who no longer uses FS9, but knows people who do)

 

  1. PMDG MD11
  2. iFly 737NG
  3. Project Tupolev Tu154M with KLN90B (free! and possibly more detailed than the aircraft below - Harder to install/use/fly though.)
  4. PMDG 747-400
  5. Level D 767

I don't have an opinion on Turboprops or GA however.

 

I would add:

 

Dreamfleet 727  (Flight1)

 

TinMouse 737-200 (freeware)

 

RFP 747-200  (freeware)

 

ATR 72-500 (Flight1)

 

SSTSIM Concorde (Flight1)

Yes sorry, I forgot about the MD-11 which I strangely don't have. One I need to get but if the products aren't available, that's a little disappointing. At least offer some good discounts like Carenado did.

 

I would hope that after a certain amount of time PMDG would offer the discontinued line as freeware.

 

I have the 737-800/900 ; 747-400 + Freighter and the MD-11. All excellent in my view.

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Difficult decision for them.  Make it freeware and great publicity for them, but anyone who bought within last year going to be p-ed off.

 

There is also the intellectual property rights issue.  Once you give something away for free , you lose control over those rights Their lawyer's will probably take the expedient route and suggest the products are just removed from sale and never see the light of day.

 

Sad, but a reflection of the world we live in.

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Isn't the only products missing the FS9 737 (-800/900 and -600/700) and the Beechcraft B1900?

Everything else for FS9 (747 & MD11) is on sale still, and the 737 has a good replacement in iFly.

 

I'm guessing Carenardo's B1900 is FSX only though.

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PMDG MD11
iFly 737NG
Project Tupolev Tu154M with KLN90B (free! and possibly more detailed than the aircraft below - Harder to install/use/fly though.)
PMDG 747-400
Level D 767

 

What a shame nobody mentioned Leonardo's Maddog, arguably the 'big daddy' of them all.

 

 


Perhaps they're making space on their servers for a new fsx/p3d add-on.

 

Perhaps you are thinking of the 777, 737NGX and their 747V2 Jon.  B)

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What a shame nobody mentioned Leonardo's Maddog, arguably the 'big daddy' of them all.

 

 

 

Holy... how could I forget that!

 

2 pilots in 1 plane, on vatsim, Skype for communications with your other pilot, FSinn for communications with ATC.

Either pilot can be in FS9 or FSX, doesn't matter (Except scenery alignment at gates/taxiways etc)

Set up Skype's "Push to talk" button backwards so it becomes a "Push to mute" button.

Use the same key for FSinn's Push to Talk. and now you have the best fun you can have while connected to VATSIM in my opinion.

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI1cAML00eU

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just purchased the Pimgee MD-11

 

You'll love her Ed, Pax or Freight, given time you will love her.

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Hi dlipsitz and welcome to 'our' forum.

 

Aerosoft may still have stocks of CD versions of certain PMDG aircraft unless already sold out.

 

iFly, through Flight1, provide excellent models of the Boeing 737NG series as well as the 747-400 (further models of which may be developed.) 

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Not as of today, when I just checked. PMDG no longer supports FS2004(ACOF), aka FS9. Products listed via the link you provided ONLY work with either FSX (SP2 or Accel) or P3D v2.x. It was that way when I checked last year about this time as well.

Yeah, your right. The only reason I posted my statement because I just purchased some PMDG products in fall and a week later they discontinued sale for FS9. I couldn't believe it.

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http://en.shop.aerosoft.com/eshop.php?action=article_detail&s_supplier_aid=11787&s_design=DEFAULT&shopfilter_category=Flight%20Simulation&s_language=english

 

is aerosoft's UK shop which has the PMDG B600 - 900 suite. Registering the product on that site gets you the latest FAQ and patches as well if needed. The B600/700 does not have the complete instrument inventory but installing the 800/900 completes the set for all.

 

Only the aerosoft US licensing from PMDG was affected.

 

amazon UK has the same 4 in 1 package:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PMDG-737-600-700-FS2004/dp/B0043M64MY/ref=sr_1_8?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1433363951&sr=8-8&keywords=pmdg

 

There is a community support forum here on AVSIM.

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http://www.amazon.com/PMDG-747-400-Queen-Skies-Add--Windows/dp/B000F9AP24/ref=sr_1_2?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1433464259&sr=1-2&keywords=pmdg+747

 

Aerosoft package ships from UK but order in US.

 

$44.99. 13 left in stock today. As with the Aerosoft 737 suite, once you register it an FAQ and any service packs if needed will be supplied by them.

 

Note it states platform is Win XP so if you have 7 ask users here if it works OK.

 

http://forums1.avsim.net/forum/136-the-pmdg-support-forum/ is the unofficial support forum here.

also:

http://forum.avsim.net/forum/354-pmdg-737-ng-fs9-legacy-version/

 

http://en.shop.aerosoft.com/eshop.php?action=article_detail&s_supplier_aid=02380&s_design=DEFAULT&shopfilter_category=Flight%20Simulation&s_language=english states Win XP only but ???

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I found the box set for the PMDG 737NG 600-900 on Aerosoft's Germany site.  Been a while since I read anything in German, lol.  It was about $35 USD (I'm in the US, so no VAT, but had to pay the same amount in shipping).  It should be here in a couple of weeks.  Having a couple of weeks to play with it and make sure it works as claimed (money back guarantee) is more than enough time for me to practice a couple of shakedown flights and a couple of flights for my virtual airline, about all I need to make sure it works.

I looked into iFly, and liked everything about it.  Then I researched their support.  Yes, pirating is a problem, I was put out of business in the late '80's by clients illegally copying and sharing my applications. But, wow, talk about overkill.  That's way too much drama for this little old (well, relative to most here) lady in a wheelchair.  I've never seen anything like it, and most certainly don't want to take any risks I'll be subjected to the same sort of abuse others were.  Too bad, I really did like the iFly product, and was more than willing to pay more for it than what I finally paid for PMDG's.  My hobby is both challenging and fun, and I want to keep it that way.

Anyway, thanks for the heads-up guys about Aerosoft.  I ended up getting a better deal than I thought I would.  Look for me online (either VATSIM or IVAO, I'll be testing it on both) doing some, um, interesting flying over KEDW for a few days, just to get the hang of things.  Then it's back to transporting the self-loading cargo for DeltaVA, while I search for a NOAA version of the Navy's new P-8 (B738-ERX) for next year's hurricane season, lol.

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But, wow, talk about overkill.  That's way too much drama ...

 

Huh?  iFly has terrific support.  True they ask customers to register their purchase to avoid giving pirates access to their support forum.  But that that is a simple, transparent and painless procedure.  Frankly I can't imagine what, in particular, turned you off them.

I'm glad you've acquired the PMDG bundle ... whilst getting long in the tooth now (like me) it is easy to run on most equipment.

Happy flying.

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I have both the PMDG 737-800-900 box from Aerosoft and the ifly 737. The PMDG is very good but lacking a lot of features compared to the ifly.

 

I am sure you will enjoy what you have ordered, but I too dont understand what put you off ifly. The online resgistration of products is no different to any other download product.

 

With your PMDG box you will still have to enter a key when you install the program.

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