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Rob Ainscough

Carenado Citation II S550 at Palm Springs

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Did a quick test flight out of Orbx's KPSP Palm Springs.

 

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Thanks Rob.

What a great way to start the day!

Inspiring for those of us who couldn't download last night.

Dean

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Nice one Rob! But a very long take off roll with master caution hm?

 

Mark

 

Yes I was thinking the same.   N1 looked quite low on the gauge, and the plane didn't seem trimmed on rotation.  Probably just Rob doing a quick and dirty flight though, to show people the aircraft in the sim, rather than flying it by the book.      Thanks for the video Rob.      VC shadows looked divine in this one.

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Good eye Mark, Craig. Here's what I'm seeing, which has me concerned. Now first, he's not using any flaps which might be required/desired in that aircraft for takeoff. Without them that could extend the takeoff roll noticeably. He also doesn't rotate until what looks like near normal climb speed (hard to tell though as the IAS isn't that clear in my video), so that could be another factor. But here's the rub - notice that when he realizes he's running out of runway he advances N1 to just under redline. Now, as he does that, notice the gauge to the right (is that the ITT gauge?) goes well past redline and that's when he gets the Caution Lights coming on. After seeing that, I went back to the earlier part of the takeoff roll and looked at his ITT (?) gauge and it was pretty close to redline at that point. IF (big if) I'm reading that right, you'll never be able to achieve full power (or at least METO) on this airplane. What further concerns me, IF I'm right, is Carenado had that issue with the C208 and someone had to step in and fix it for him. I hope that's not the case here, but I think I want to see a more complete/technically correct demonstration of a takeoff before I buy this one, as bad as I want it.

 

Note I'm NOT criticising Rob in his video. It's extremely helpful, fun to watch and well done. My comments are directed at the airplane only.

 

Glenn

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No prep at all with this flight ... just quickie for visuals and sound.  Since I didn't read the manual I had no idea of V speeds, flap settings, etc. etc. ... I'll dig into the manual this weekend and do a full prep flight from KPSP to KTVL from cold and dark.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Thank you, As always very cool video. Also Palm Springs looks fantastic.

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That's terrific Rob. And again, let me say that I wasn't being at all critical of you. I think everyone figured this was a "first flight" run and it's really appreciated. Gave a lot of good insights.

 

Looking forward to your next release. Thanks again Rob!

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No prep at all with this flight ... just quickie for visuals and sound.  Since I didn't read the manual I had no idea of V speeds, flap settings, etc. etc. ... I'll dig into the manual this weekend and do a full prep flight from KPSP to KTVL from cold and dark.

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

Oh this is a good one with the manual :rolleyes:

 

There is't much reading anyway, no system manual included!

Maybe Carenado don't want us to know wath's all went wrong in this plane :unsure:

 

Vertical Autopilot modes are in this state, just unusable!

 

I really wastet my money on this one, for eycandy it's simply overpriced :unsure:

 

Bruno

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I really wastet my money on this one, for eycandy it's simply overpriced

 

To be fair to Carenado it's early days yet, a service pack/update in the coming weeks will/might sort out most/some problems.

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No prep at all with this flight ... just quickie for visuals and sound.  Since I didn't read the manual I had no idea of V speeds, flap settings, etc. etc. ... I'll dig into the manual this weekend and do a full prep flight from KPSP to KTVL from cold and dark.

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

 

Amazing video.  This solidifies the advantage of P3D over it's competition.

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There is't much reading anyway, no system manual included!

 

There are 8 useful .PDFs included, so not sure what you mean? 

 

EFIS pdf

FMS pdf

MFD pdf

Recommended settings

S550 Emergency procedures

S550 Normal procedures

S550 Performance tables

S550 Reference 

 

I haven't fully tested the AP ... but docs list the various modes for EFIS and AP systems?  It all appears to be there if you setup the FMS.

 

I'll dig more into the AC this weekend.  But not sure where your comments are coming from Bruno?

 

Cheers, Rob.

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To be fair to Carenado it's early days yet, a service pack/update in the coming weeks will/might sort out most/some problems.

 

I really wish, but how was it with the Phenom and the PC12, the best updates made the user himself.

 

Bruno

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Is the FMC fully functioning?

 

It appears to be, but until I do a full flight from A to B I can't confirm.  Also, I have no real world experience of the S550 FMC being used in this variant ... so take that for what it's worth.

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

EDIT: maybe someone that has done a complete flight can chime in?

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Actually Palm Springs is hard on FPS for my system ... haven't figured out exactly why yet.

 

Anyway, I link my specs and settings used in the description part of the video on YouTube because I get this question frequently.

 

But I'll repeat them here: http://www.robainscough.com/images/868138a8f4558003b17acfa340e896b3.jpg

Settings: http://robainscough.com/P3D_4K_Long_Haul.html

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Robs PC can be described as "The Mother Ship" of PC's

 

Would like to think Palm Springs would have good FPS as its amazing quality and value for the size of what you get.

1500 square kilometres of scenery, amazing value

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Actually Palm Springs is hard on FPS for my system ... haven't figured out exactly why yet.

 

Ya that's strange...I'm getting very good performance with Orbx KPSP.  Blurry mountain textures is the only real issue I have with that scenery (I don't have an issue with blurry ground texture in general).  Maybe that's why my performance is so good!

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Ya that's strange...I'm getting very good performance with Orbx KPSP.

 

Yeah, others have reported good performance with KPSP and I expected good performance also considering it's rather remote location.  I haven't been able to pin point why and I've tested many different KPSP control panel configurations.  It could be the same issues I had with NCA with some .BGLs that cut my FPS by 50% ... after getting help from Orbx crew I was able to disable a few .BGL's and cured the FPS issue.  But so far, I haven't found a cure for KPSP on my setup.

 

 

 


Robs PC can be described as "The Mother Ship" of PC's

 

Haha, well, I'll have to disagree ... there are many folks here that have more recent and more capable PCs than I.  My CPU is a 3960x released Nov 2011 ... a dinosaur in technology terms.  However, my dinosaur CPU at 4.6Ghz is still only 7% less capable than a 5960X @ 4.3Ghz ... so in 3+ years Intel has only managed to improve CPU performance by 7% ... frankly that's very disappointing ... it's the Intel of Old (for those that remember AMD being top of the CPU food chain), but today no desktop competition so not much effort/resource being dedicated to desktop computing.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Haha, well, I'll have to disagree ... there are many folks here that have more recent and more capable PCs than I.  My CPU is a 3960x released Nov 2011 ... a dinosaur in technology terms.  However, my dinosaur CPU at 4.6Ghz is still only 7% less capable than a 5960X @ 4.3Ghz

When i got my Computer from Alienware this August 2 years ago,  A 3930K 16 gig, gtx 690,  i thought i was like ***"IT"***  until i ran the 3DMark software and quickly realized all I had was a Souped up Atari Machine:)    

 

Look forward to seeing your next video on this plane 

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I've seen your youtube video of the amazing job you did interfacing GoFlight gear to your aircraft.

 

Have you been able to do anything similar with the Citation yet?

 

Bryn

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