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Hi,

 

I'm just in the process of changing over from an ATI card (HD 7850 2GB) to a nVidia card (GTX 670 2GB).

 

I last tried P3D2 in Autumn last year (purchased a 1 month dev license), and it didn't run well at all with my system and the ATI card.

 

I'm looking for advice on whether people think this system would have a chance at running P3D2 now, with half decent AA/AF ;-

 

i7 2600k 3.4Ghz (can't be OC'd), GTX 670 2GB, 8GB RAM DDR3, Win 7 64bit

 

I'm only looking for medium settings overall but perhaps with some basic cockpit shadowing.  Not bothered about terrain shadowing at all.

 

Do I stand a chance with the above system?

 

Thanks in advance for your views.

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Don't you want at least an 4GB video card  and a I5 4670k instead ?  I think you can tweak it to run P3D with that configuration but I won't be that great. I would save up a little more and get a beefier pc. Your investment would last longer.

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i7 2600k 3.4Ghz (can't be OC'd), GTX 670 2GB, 8GB RAM DDR3, Win 7 64bit

 

I am really happy with my set up if you just take a look at it and by the way the CPU you are I have, as you see, was made to be over clocked.

 

Welcome to P 3-D world!

 

Chaz

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Hi,

 

my configuration is not far different and I can run P3D2 just fine. The only difference is my graphics adapter being a GTX760 / 4 GB now. However, I had it running using a GTX560Ti 2 MB for some time  before, and even this one worked. 

 

Actually, I use pretty (say, too) high settings and 4xSGSS and even this can be done. Framerate goes down to 20 and sometimes below under very demanding situations (like KSFO using FB + ORBX scenery + UT2 AI traffic), but under "normal" situations it's around 30 which I consider enough. 

 

However, I should note, I only fly GA planes (C172) and in more or less nice weather most of the time. Plus, I have a hardware panel, thus I use the (34") screen for scenery display exclusively, neither 2D nor 3D panel.

 

Kind regards, Michael

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i7 2600k 3.4Ghz (can't be OC'd)

 

Why can't your 2600K be overclocked ? that is exactly what the K series chips are designed for.

If it is your MB limiting you than just buy a better one, your 2600K will run 4.4Ghz easily, possibly more with really good cooling.

My 2500K runs 4.6Ghz without any fuss

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Don't you want at least an 4GB video card  and a I5 4670k instead ?  I think you can tweak it to run P3D with that configuration but I won't be that great. I would save up a little more and get a beefier pc. Your investment would last longer.

 

That's not an option for me.  No disrespect and I know you're just being helpful with good advice, but some people don't have open ended budgets for simming.    I was only able to change from my pesky HD7850 2GB, to the GTX670 because a friend was selling it and I got 'mates rates'.   :smile:    It was very cheap.

 

Hence, I'm not so much wondering the best specs or equipment type for P3D2, just whether my spec in the OP would stand much of a chance with it.

 

Cheers.

 

 

by the way the CPU you are I have, as you see, was made to be over clocked.

 

Why can't your 2600K be overclocked ?

 

Don't start me off on that one!! :smile:   It is a pre-built, mass assembled PC and (as commonly happens), they use MOBOs that have overclocking physically locked out. There is no access whatsoever to clock values, speeds, temps, etc, etc, in the BIOS.  I looked into it many, many times when I first got the machine.  Some claimed 'software overclocking' was an option, but nothing worked.     There are many MOBOs out there that cannot be OC'd, typically in machines like Dell, HP, etc.

 

It's to do with warranty liabilities and preserving 'stock operation'.

 

That's why I said can't be OC'd, and not won't be OC'd.   :wink:

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You should do fine with the proper settings. Faster cpu, better GPU, all that stuff haelps but if it's not in the cards - what you have outlined will give you decent results as long as you don't try to slam the sliders to the max.

 

If there comes a time when you have a crack in the budget - go for a 4K minimum GPU. If you were to update the CPU you would easily overpower that card, so any upgrades should be GPU.

 

Enjoy!

 

Vic

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You should do fine with the proper settings. Faster cpu, better GPU, all that stuff haelps but if it's not in the cards - what you have outlined will give you decent results as long as you don't try to slam the sliders to the max.

 

If there comes a time when you have a crack in the budget - go for a 4K minimum GPU. If you were to update the CPU you would easily overpower that card, so any upgrades should be GPU.

 

Enjoy!

 

Vic

 

Thank you!

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That's why I said can't be OC'd, and not won't be OC'd.   :wink:

 

 Totally understand.. beside getting out of the AMD game (that alone can be worth it),  I am not sure if you will get a real difference in terms of performance between the 2 cards. I also uncertain if the GTX 670 allows you to use shadow play. I almost bought a GTX 970 myself this weekend as I grew tired of my R290x but I came back to my senses and came back to reality. Whatever road you have chosen, I really hope it works out for you.

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 Totally understand.. beside getting out of the AMD game (that alone can be worth it),  I am not sure if you will get a real difference in terms of performance between the 2 cards. I also uncertain if the GTX 670 allows you to use shadow play. I almost bought a GTX 970 myself this weekend as I grew tired of my R290x but I came back to my senses and came back to reality. Whatever road you have chosen, I really hope it works out for you.

 

Thanks mate. :smile:  - useful insight.  I think for hte sake of $10 I'll try another month's license and see how it goes.   Worth a try!

 

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I was using a superclocked 670 for P3D just fine.  However, don't expect to be able to use SGSS in cloudy or overcast conditions.  You should be able to ramp up most of the "stock" graphical settings though and enjoy medium/medium high autogen and terrain settings with that CPU/GPU combo.

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I was using a superclocked 670 for P3D just fine.  However, don't expect to be able to use SGSS in cloudy or overcast conditions.  You should be able to ramp up most of the "stock" graphical settings though and enjoy medium/medium high autogen and terrain settings with that CPU/GPU combo.

 

Thanks.

 

Actually I've not found the need to use the AA Transparency settings (SGSS) with the 670.  Using 4x4 Supersampling gives me a superb smooth result, so I've not been inclined to try out SGSS yet.  (Perhaps this will save me some headroom with P3D2).  

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I know you discussed it above but you could get a new motherboard to overclock that CPU.  Those Sandy Bridge CPUs were beast overclockers and it's a shame to see all that free power go to waste.  Decent motherboards are cheap compared to other components.  It's obviously the most time consuming component to change since you have to essentially rebuild the computer but I'm just saying...it's worth a thought.

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Thanks.

 

Actually I've not found the need to use the AA Transparency settings (SGSS) with the 670.  Using 4x4 Supersampling gives me a superb smooth result, so I've not been inclined to try out SGSS yet.  (Perhaps this will save me some headroom with P3D2).  Crai

Craig,

 

I have a 4790K with a GTX660Ti....settings at medium, specially weather at 80nm and also medium cloud density, I get very good stutter free performance unless the sky is severely overcast. Clouds are rendered by the Graphics card in P3D so the better the card, the better performance you will get. Aside from that, it runs fine.

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I know you discussed it above but you could get a new motherboard to overclock that CPU.  Those Sandy Bridge CPUs were beast overclockers and it's a shame to see all that free power go to waste.  Decent motherboards are cheap compared to other components.  It's obviously the most time consuming component to change since you have to essentially rebuild the computer but I'm just saying...it's worth a thought.

 

Thanks - I've never changed a MOBO before (only the components that plug in to it) but I will definitely look at this because you're right, it is criminal that this CPU is not OC'd! :smile:

 

 

I have a 4790K with a GTX660Ti....settings at medium, specially weather at 80nm and also medium cloud density, I get very good stutter free performance unless the sky is severely overcast. Clouds are rendered by the Graphics card in P3D so the better the card, the better performance you will get. Aside from that, it runs fine.

 

Cheers for that Will.  Those are very similar settings levels to what I go for.

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You said your budget is really limited, so if you buy another mobo in order to overclock your chip, just be aware that you are going to run into cooling issues that you will have to deal with, and that means more money than just the motherboard itself.

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My old, now retired, rig has a i7-930@3.8, a GTX670 2GB and 6GB 1600MHz RAM.

As long as I didn't go bananas with SGSS in Nvidia Inspector, it ran P3D2 quite well at medium settings (including shadows).

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You said your budget is really limited, so if you buy another mobo in order to overclock your chip, just be aware that you are going to run into cooling issues that you will have to deal with, and that means more money than just the motherboard itself.

 

Ok good point, thanks.   Presumably there's a conservative amount of CPU clocking that could be done on the MOBO that wouldn't require extra cooling ?

 

For example, my current 2600k CPU clock runs at 3.4Ghz; so perhaps I could take it up to 3.8 and not need to look at additional cooling factors?

 

Cheers.

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For example, my current 2600k CPU clock runs at 3.4Ghz; so perhaps I could take it up to 3.8 and not need to look at additional cooling factors?

 

That is correct.  The "turbo" feature on motherboards will overclock that CPU to 3.8 or 4.0 with the push of a button using stock voltages.  The heat only really becomes a factor once you start increasing your vcore.

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Your CPU...

 

with (see my specs)

 

AND recently installed

 

...just sayin..

 

Chas

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Your CPU...

 

with (see my specs)

 

AND recently installed 

 

< VIDEO SNIPPED >

 

 

...just sayin..

 

Chas

 

Interesting video Chas...... and I learned that the US in the biggest importer of Mexican avacados in the world (the radio in the background :smile: ).

 

So after replacing the MOBO, does one have to reinstall the OS ?

 

Thanks.

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Interesting video Chas...... and I learned that the US in the biggest importer of Mexican avacados in the world (the radio in the background :smile: ).

 

So after replacing the MOBO, does one have to reinstall the OS ?

 

Thanks.

After reviewing the video on YouTube I came back here to delete it because the only thing our topic founder needed to know was the answers which were;

 

1. does one have to reinstall the OS ? Nope..everything stays the same.

 

2. The CoolerMaster Hyper 212 plus...upgrade to the already existing rig as seen in my profile.

 

The new cooler took care of all my overheating and CPU throttling problems when Overclocking. I recommend the Mobo I have wholeheartedly!

 

Make sure you buy from now on cases that have openings in the back so that you can attach the backplane of a super cooler like the one above from behind, and dont have to remove the motherboard.

 

Mine didn't, so I had to remove the mobo but as you can see from the filth and disarray of my wiring that needed doing anyway.

 

 

 

Chas

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