I have both P-51s, the P-47 and the P-40. The one I ended up spending the most time in was the P-47. But I think I'm the exception to the rule here. The sound and feel of the P-47 is really something, and I guess they're right it's like flying a tank. And if you want every landing to be a challenge, you'll like it. If you want nimble and agile it's not for you. But if you want macho it's a win  B)

Thank you Alan for the links, I have loads of free time coming up this weekend, so ill be doing some purchasing shortly.

 

This has been a fantastic thread very informative.

Well I took the plunge and bought Civilian Mustang. Flew half an hour last night and I'm hooked. Landing, errrr, was a disaster. Landing this thing requires MUCH practice, a lot different to any GA or Airliner landing, and on top of all when you flare you can't see the runway anymore, bummer. 

 

Very Good, the Mustang is a challenge but very rewarding to master.  For landings, don't try to get into small GA airports right away until you get good at it.  For me, the personal minimum runway length for the Mustang is around 2200-2500'.   If you are starting out, pick a nice big runway.   The P-40 and Spitfire are a little easier to land.  I can get into the small FTX airports in a P-40 comfortably where as the Mustang is right on the limits for those airports.  

 

Enjoy starting that big cranky V-12 on cold day without either; A. Burning out the starter.  B. Running the battery out.  C.  Flooding the engine.  It can be done but there is a technique to it.  Watch the oil pressure on start too, the Oil Dilute system works and you should use it when needed.  Thats what I love about accusim planes, you really have to think about what you are doing to start them, not just press a button and the magic engine start fairy makes your plane start right every time.  

 

Cheers

TJ

 

 

 For me, the personal minimum runway length for the Mustang is around 2200-2500'.  

 

You're well ahead of me - I'm still at around 4000 feet.  That second A2A thread I linked to - the recent one where Dudley coaches throttle management on takeoff - was a breakthrough for me.  I've just managed my first takeoff where I didn't feel I was clutching the tail by my fingernails as the airplane dragged me into the air.  Landings are getting there, but I still need work, to put it mildly.

I can get down safely on a 1500' grass strip..........Nah, not really. :smile:

Chehallis Centralia is my default airport, no idea what the runway length is but I can get off OK. I'm overcoming the desire to pull up before the runway ends and just letting her decide when it's time to lift off. So far, so good! The grin factor is probably the highest of all the aircraft I have and that's a lot!

Landing, for some reason hasn't proved so tricky although you have to pilot it to a standstill. No 'chirp' 'n' roll out with the Mustang. She has a tendency to want to go and graze the outfield.

Fun Fun Fun

Great choice, I also love the WoP3 P-51.  It's the only aircraft I've flown in FSX that feels like you are dealing with dangerous beast under its engine cowling (hats off to A2A, magnificent), plus you can be cruising at 30K ft within a few minutes after takeoff.  BTW, the military version does have a "back door" heading and altitude autopilot that responds to the such mapped autopilot keys.

 

 

The one I ended up spending the most time in was the P-47. But I think I'm the exception to the rule here.

 

Maybe, but you're not alone.  I get back to it often.  Love the stability and that big rumbling radial up front.  Landing all that weight is interesting, though... 

 

 

I can get down safely on a 1500' grass strip..........Nah, not really.

 

I'm trying to get comfortable with it at my neighborhood field - KGAI - just over 4,000.  Once I've got that, I'll head on over to KCGS (2600) and see what happens (shuts eyes, prays...)

 

For the longest time I had a love-hate relationship with the Mustang - wanted to love it, couldn't.  Am getting there now.  But I have to admit I'm even more amazed now by that famous story about Don Blakeslee telling his pilots, "There's your new Mustangs, boys - you'll learn to fly them on the way to the target..."

Yes these accusim planes are 'alive'  

 

Another great 'realistic' thing about the Accusim birds, they do require proficiency, if you stop flying them for a while, then go back to them, it will take you some practice to get back into the swing of things.  

 

Usually if I go off on a GA or Tubeliner kick, then come back to the warbirds, I go to the P-40 first just to get back up to speed with warbird atmosphere and mindset again before going to the Mustang.  The P-40 is a little more 'gentle' and forgiving, it gives you that extra half second to think about what you are doing lol. 

 

I think if/when A2A releases the Accusimmed AT-6, that will be highly recommended for all A2A warbird flyers and anyone who wants to seriously master the high performance taildragger.  The AT-6 was famously more difficult to fly than the fighters, if you can master the AT-6 you can handle just about anything lol.  

 

Cheers

TJ

Ahhaahahah my brain in so in neutral these days! I've just found out that I've already bought 14 months ago A2A P-47!  Well, I'm glad I did because I fell in love with that airplane watching YouTube vids today. Engine sound of that heavy thing is the definition of pure awesomeness. So now I have two sexy warbirds to play with, yeah!

Took the plunge last night.  Bought myself the Civilian Mustang + Acu-Sim = 44 Euro and of course the EMT Tool which brought my spending splurge to a tidy 56ish Euro.

I was a bit hesitant about the Installation process but all i can say it could not of been easer,  made a few clicks and that was it. 

 

Jumped into my new cockpit,  everything looked great but there was no sound from any of the switches,  Then realized i had not updated with the new Acu-Sim updater.  What a really cool updater,  it went through all my files and found my C182 + Cherokee and my new Civ mustang,  really impressed with how straight forward the whole thing was.   Jump back into the plane now all switch sounds work perfect.     

 

The power of this thing and trying to control it on the ground is unbelievable, pure immersion.   The sound alone is amazing.   Can't say enough about how easy the EMT tool made it, i did not have to do anything extra.   

 

Really happy with my purchase.  

 

 

Really happy with my purchase.  

 

Glad to hear it.

 

 

The power of this thing and trying to control it on the ground is unbelievable, pure immersion.  

 

Have been reading this book (highly recommended along with this one by the same author) and the other night came across a story told by Joe Shea of the 357th Fighter Group, an experienced P-40 pilot who took off for the first time in a P-51 without much of a briefing, sheered off the runway to the left on takeoff, careened across a mud field, barely got airborne and took the windsock off the control tower before he got clear of the field.  "When I got back, I was still really mad that no one had told me about the torque on the P-51.  I was furious."

 

Be careful out there.

I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat 

 

Brilliant Love It

 

Question.  I just installed my A2A planes after V2.5.   I first installed my Civilian mustang without the Accusim,  started my Mustang and floored the pedal until my oil light was red just to see what would  happen and obviously nothing because i didn't install my Accusim,   after installing the Accusim into the Mustang i tried the same again and still my engine didn't blow up even after sitting on my pedal for 5 mins on a cold engine,   my engine should of popped at this stage ???  

 

Maybe i installed my Accusim wrong?   My nice computer told me i done everything ok.  I even installed the Official Update. 

 

Here's exactly what my A2A folder looks like,  keep in mind,  i only own the Civilian Mustang 

 

182

Cherokee

P51

P51 Civ 

Shared 

 

Any help would be great.   Its 2.20AM here and my little brain is fried thinking about this  :rolleyes:

Remember these warbirds were designed for the rigors of air combat. They can handle alot of abuse. What is really affected by aggressive flying is the wear and tear factor, and this is cumulative, so a failure as a result of a worn out engine won't always happen right away, likely will happen later when you least expect it.

 

Cheers

TJ

TJ's right - it takes work to damage one of these guys.  That said... the P-51, alone among the Accu-sim aircraft, has always been a little eccentric for me in P3D.  No showstoppers but the behavior on loading is a little off.  In 2.4 I had problems with the contact points - landing gear was embedded a couple of feet into the ramp.  In 2.5, contact points are OK but there's no sound.  These things only happen if I launch a flight with the P-51 already selected.  If I launch with a default aircraft (I use the Carenado Bonanza that comes with P3D), then switch to the P-51, I have no problems. All this might be particular to my setup - I haven't heard anyone else report it, though it's happened to me across two separate builds.  Something to try - if you're not doing this already, load a default flight, then load the Mustang, and see what happens.  Hope this helps.

Sorry about the delay getting back to this

 

Thank you TJ and Alan for the replys.   As i said,  it was annoying me to think i had not installed it correctly,  so i set out on a quest.  I loaded my Mustang on Dublin airport,  started my engine, keep the brakes on and throttle at 90%, after about 2 mins i noticed my Hydraulic pressure was climbing towards the red also my Coolant/Exhaust Gas Temperature was also sitting close to the red, seconds later white Steam started to rise above my propellers.    Throttle up to 100%,  Hydraulic pressure and Temperature now over the red and then a thick blue smoke filled up all around my Mustang.  Keep the throttle going seconds later and WOW we have got a rageing fire underneath the engine,  engine slowed and finally stopped.  Very impressed with my findings.  

 

I clicked on my maintenance hanger and yes, My hydraulic pump and my engine is shot.   What can i say,  ya gotta love A2A   

 

Thanks again