February 1, 201511 yr Commercial Member Hi guys, looking for some advice please. Looking for a complex jet for prepar3d, either 737 or a320, but I only want native prepar3d so for now no pmdg unfortunately. I think that only leaves the ifly 737? If so how good is it? Tried a friends aerosoft Airbus in prepar3d but that disappointed me for a couple of reasons. Firstly it seems it isn't as accurate as I'd like. While pushing the limits on purpose, prepar3d said i overstressed the aircraft. Obviously that isn't supposed to be possible in an a320 so that highlights a possible inaccuracy in the flight modelling. Also not all cockpit switches work and you can't dim displays etc so that also counts it out for me. Is there an Airbus a320 that is complete with every switch working and up to pmdg standards that is native to prepar3d. If I'm being honest I think I would rather have an a320 over a 737 but I prefer my aircraft complex and accurate with everything working. What are my options? Thanks for any advice. Chris Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
February 2, 201511 yr Doooood! Re the AEROSOFT A-3xx, Owning it, and the 737 NGX , Nothing, absolutely nothing, is up PMDG specs and standards. So until PMDG does an Airbus, Aerosoft is the only game in town....only=best available possibility. Chas My first sim flight simulator Take a ride to Stinking Creek! http://youtu.be/YP3fxFqkBXg Win10 Pro, GeForce GTX 1080TI/Rizen5 5600x OCd,32 GB RAM,3x1920 x 1080, 60Hz , 27" Dell TouchScreen,TM HOTAS Warthog,TrackIR5,Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals HP reverbG2,Quest2
February 2, 201511 yr So until PMDG does an Airbus Unlikely. The best opportunity for Chris is to wait, just a little time now, for FSLabs Airbus. Lefteris is a perfectionist after all.
February 2, 201511 yr As appliance points out, the FS labs airbus will be great. You may well see the PMDG product before the FS Airbus. Furthermore, there may not be a P3D version available for awhile. Don't hold your breath. There is nothing wrong with Aerosoft's airbus as long as you dont mind standatd operating procedues only. No failures. Regards, Graham Derreck CYMM
February 2, 201511 yr Author Commercial Member Yeah been following fslabs but it has been years and I need something to fill the gap! Between ifly and aerosoft, what is more complete? Current a3xx has missing minor systems that aerosoft have said they are not going to bother adding. Is the ifly 737 more complete? Will it satisfy my pedantic need for everything working as it should!? Will probably end up with pmdg and fslabs airbus but for now don't know if either will annoy me! Regards Chris Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
February 2, 201511 yr iFly 737 is a complete systems sim - but the VC is not good compared to PMDG. iFly 747v2 is out now - but has some FPS issues for people reported. PMDG - now it won't be long now 777 is in testing for P3D, and the others (NGX, 747v2) are to follow. Q400 Majestic Dash 8 - is awesome and works great in P3D, much better than Aerosoft, and on par or better than PMDG in my opinion. My advice would be to get the Dash 8 now, then get PMDG in a few weeks as well for the jets. If you can't wait and don't want to buy a Turboprop - then consider the Aerosoft to hold you over. Alternatively there are several Retro jet options..
February 2, 201511 yr Q400 Majestic Dash 8 - is awesome and works great in P3D, much better than Aerosoft, and on par or better than PMDG in my opinion. Hadn't thought of that. Good point. Could be the best commercial aircraft available. If you are pedantic, you're in luck. There's also a video course to teach you how to operate. Regards, Graham Derreck CYMM
February 2, 201511 yr Author Commercial Member Thanks for all the opinions guys! I would consider retro jets if they are complete, I do have a love of older aircraft. Any suggestions? I know there are lots but I only want complete systems really. How bad is the ifly vc really compared to the pmdg? Good point on the dash 8. I forgot about that and the videos are a plus. Regards Chris Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
February 2, 201511 yr Will it satisfy my pedantic need for everything working as it should!? As the iFly is sold through Flight1 if it doesn't fit well with your expectations a 30 day refund is available. I expect iFly's 747-400v2 will shortly be released for P3D and should be more than competitive.
February 3, 201511 yr Author Commercial Member Had a good look at the dash 8 but I still have a soft spot for the 737 and a320. Tried the aerosoft effort again but can't get past the missing emergency systems etc so I will have to wait for the fslabs a320 to scratch that particular itch. That leaves the ifly. Before I pull the trigger on it, how is the frame rate in prepar3d? I saw things saying it had much lower fps in prepar3d than fsx and was wondering if that was still an issue. Thanks. Chris Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
February 3, 201511 yr Your FPS will depend on many other settings; however, for reference I get about 30 FPS on the ground at a large default airport with the ifly. The VC textures aren't great but the external modeling is good and the level of system detail place it at the top for P3D compatible 737s at the moment (so does the price). Like others have said though, if you want the highest quality, currently available tubeliner for P3D you're going to have to go with the Dash 8. Don't forget about the Milviz 737 however. If you like old school, this would be the one to get. Ryan
February 4, 201511 yr I had the ifly in fsx and quickly ditched it for the NGX when it was released. Unless you're really in a rush i wouldn't spend money on the ifly version personally. There's a thread in the p3d section somewhere about the ifly 737, IIRC many were getting poor frames but you might want to have a read through yourself. I'll second the previous poster's comment on the milviz 732...lots of retro fun to be had there, and options for a modern fmc and autopilot if you desire. I also have the aerosoft airbus and quite enjoy it, don't think i've ever overstressed it. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
February 4, 201511 yr Author Commercial Member Hi Regis Admittedly I only overstressed it because I was trying to see if the fly by wire worked but it didn't. Pit wasn't mine, was at a friends so not even sure if he had it patched up to date to I'm not too bothered about that. It was more the fact that there are quite a few missing systems in it. Overall I like the aerosoft version but it just isn't complete enough for me. Chris Owner, Fulcrum Simulator Controls. fulcrumsim.com facebook.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols instagram.com/fulcrumsimulatorcontrols twitter.com/Fulcrum_SC
February 4, 201511 yr No option than to wait Chris ... just wait. Anything else is unsatisfactory to you/for you ... just wait.
February 4, 201511 yr Hi guys, looking for some advice please. Looking for a complex jet for prepar3d, either 737 or a320, but I only want native prepar3d so for now no pmdg unfortunately. I think that only leaves the ifly 737? If so how good is it? Tried a friends aerosoft Airbus in prepar3d but that disappointed me for a couple of reasons. Firstly it seems it isn't as accurate as I'd like. While pushing the limits on purpose, prepar3d said i overstressed the aircraft. Obviously that isn't supposed to be possible in an a320 so that highlights a possible inaccuracy in the flight modelling. Also not all cockpit switches work and you can't dim displays etc so that also counts it out for me. Is there an Airbus a320 that is complete with every switch working and up to pmdg standards that is native to prepar3d. If I'm being honest I think I would rather have an a320 over a 737 but I prefer my aircraft complex and accurate with everything working. What are my options? Thanks for any advice. Chris Interesting you mention that you overstressed the Airbus. Isn't not supposed to stall either? AF447 and the resent Air Asia (initial findings, still very early in the investigation) tell a very different story. Remember this is a desktop sim that can be bought over the counter. You come off a little bit to advaned for this platform. I'd take Appliance's advice and wait, just wait until this sim catches up to you. It'll be a shame to have the PMDG NGX "annoy" you. Reik Namreg
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