Try limiting the FPS to 30

Correct, FFTF will not be used if set to Unlimited frames.

 

I've done some extensive 

 

 

I am not questioning the detail of the terrain Rob sorry if I miss-lead you that last patch seems to have taken care of that - its the AA on the vertical graphics of the aircraft - been doing this to long I know what I am talking about - in 2.4 was not there is now in 2.5  over and over I have repeated that I never had to add NI or DSR  have to now and still its not correct - your 4k monitor proves nothing to the masses 

 

If you look at my screenshots you will say well they look good to me - because I have to have aircraft at a specific angle to get them acceptable which is a pain as there are not many to choose from

your 4k monitor proves nothing to the masses 

 

Fair enough, what resolution would you like me to re-test in ... my Monitor will do just about any resolution from 4096 x 2160 to 720 x 480 ... I think you run at 2560 x 1440 (which is 16:9 aspect)?  So 3840 x 2160 (native) will have the same aspect ratio of 16:9.

 

I'm not debating view angles or zoom levels, I'm just trying to clarify that nothing on the AA front changed from v2.4 to v2.5 per your claim.  If you want to provide a link to a saved .fxml and .wx file (this will capture view angle and state, etc. so it'll be identical), I'll use that at whatever graphics settings you like ... just make sure it's a default aircraft provide with P3D.

 

All I'm trying to do is demonstrate there is no difference in AA between v2.4 and v2.5 and I can do that however you want me to do it.  I'm not judging the quality of the AA, just letting you know it really hasn't changed from v2.4 to v2.5.

 

I'll do it on my 970 GTX box just to be clear it's not some Titan X magic.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Fair enough,

 

Yes I run I think you run at 2560 x 1440 (which is 16:9 aspect) - still not sure what that will prove on your monitor - I will provide a zoom level and screenshot - that should be enough but not using my monitor may not be the best test

Fair enough

 

I rest my case this is P3D maxed out graphic settings - not good and shots do not show the shimmering going on - virgin global P3D program setting and global NCP panel settings - 2048 textures

 

 

 

 

 

I rest my case this is P3D maxed out graphic settings

 

If I'm not mistaken your case was AA changed from V2.4 to V2.5 ... none of those pictures are the same picture so what's the compare reference point?  Also, none specify identify v2.4 shot vs. v2.5 shot?

 

Screenshots are data captures independent of monitor brands, so long as both monitors are set to operate at the same resolution and color bit depth ... mine can operate at 2560 x 1440.

 

You'll need to provide your AA settings and if you have done anything via NCP or NI.

 

But if your going to make the claim that v2.4 AA is better than v2.5 AA (and repeat that claim in many threads) and want to be taken seriously, you'll need to provide some type of identical comparison between the two versions showing your testing methods in detail.  I took the time to show you I couldn't find any difference in AA between versions on my setup.

 

Cheers, Rob.

If I'm not mistaken your case was AA changed from V2.4 to V2.5 ... none of those pictures are the same picture so what's the compare reference point?  Also, none specify identify v2.4 shot vs. v2.5 shot?

 

These are a virgin NCP - I all ready stated above - cant compare as you cant have 2.4 and 2.5 loaded at the same time - your not helping just trying to prove I am wrong makes no sense you asked me to take some screenshots in 2.5 at a zoom level and I did

 

 

Correct, FFTF will not be used if set to Unlimited frames.

Weird then for me that it works.  Unlimited Frames, FFTF=0.01 == no stutters, Unlimited frames with default FFTF == micro stutters.  I will leave FFTF=0.01 and lock frame at 30 to see myself.

 

 

cant compare as you cant have 2.4 and 2.5 loaded at the same time - your not helping just trying to prove I am wrong makes no sense you asked me to take some screenshots in 2.5 at a zoom level and I did

 

You uninstall v2.5, install v2.4 do the test, uninstall v2.4 and install v2.5 and do the same test ... this is exactly how I tested your suggestion that v2.4 AA was different than v2.5 AA ... my results contradicted your claim, there was no difference.  

 

Since this is YOUR claim the burden of proof is on you.  I did the work necessary to try to validate your claim, I was NOT able to validate it.  I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, I was doing exactly what LM would do when trying to "duplicate a user reported problem" ... if LM can't duplicate it, they can't resolve.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Following this post

Thank-you

You uninstall v2.5, install v2.4 do the test

 

Here you go I am not uninstalling 2.5 again I even pm you a 2.4 version to show you the difference the last time uninstalled 2.4 - close enough shows the AA is lacking in 2.5 even up closer than than the 2.4 version which in fact should be even better but its worse - have to admit FTX Global does look good - very different than UTX V2

 

Now pay attention to the aircraft not the terrain - I'm happy with terrain - thats not in question here

 

UTX V2 at LOWI

 

 

 

FTX Global and Vector at LOWI 

 

 

This proves my point and if it doesn't in your eyes I'm done - blind man can see the difference 

Yes, 100% sure and have tested the settings myself to confirm what I was told by LM.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Now that you mention it, I do remember that both settings do nothing with unlimited frames. As I recall, the unlimited frames setting is equivalent to running limited frame rates (like 30) and an extremely low FFTF like 0.01. That also holds trued for FSX and FSX-SE.

 

 

This proves my point and if it doesn't in your eyes I'm done

 

1.  You don't identify which image is from v2.4 and which image is from v2.5?

2.  One image has a different zoom level

3.  One image has a different angle

4.  Neither image is at your native resolution of 2560 x 1440, one image is 1350 x 799 and the other image is 1343 x 797

 

I was trying to help you accomplish a valid comparison, so far you haven't done that.  I have no interest in right or wrong, only the methodology of providing information as that is how change will come about assuming LM can replicate.

 

Cheers, Rob.

1.  You don't identify which image is from v2.4 and which image is from v2.5?

2.  One image has a different zoom level

3.  One image has a different angle

4.  Neither image is at your native resolution of 2560 x 1440, one image is 1350 x 799 and the other image is 1343 x 797

 

I was trying to help you accomplish a valid comparison, so far you haven't done that.  I have no interest in right or wrong, only the methodology of providing information as that is how change will come about assuming LM can replicate.

 

Cheers, Rob.

 

 

1. the first one is 2.5 [2560 x 1440]   --------------------------    the second is 2.4 [2560 x 1440] apples to apples - all driver and P3D graphic settings the same or I would not have bothered

 

2. yes zoom level is different I gave 2.5 a better chance to be better quality zoomed in a bit more and it failed - farther away the worse it would get

 

3. angle does not matter in 2.4 any angle would not have these jagggie graphics

 

4. Both images are Native 2560 x 1440 if they were not I would not be proving anything 

 

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Your statements are not holding water Rob - it is what it is dont worry about it - get a mytraffic v6 video out - now that would be interesting

I don't see how those two screenshots are "apples to apples"

 

It really needs exact replica screenshots with everything the same the prove your point. The lighting is different, hell.. everything in terms of being a true test looks different. Reading the thread it appears you want us to take your word for it but are not prepared to prove it. Either way is fine with me, but you do invite criticism of your claims and methods if you are going to repeat the claim and not prove it.

 

My opinion is AA in P3D is rubbish for me in 2.4 and 2.5, consistently... 

My opinion is AA in P3D is rubbish for me in 2.4 and 2.5, consistently... 

 

Well you answered the question quite elegantly so there is the answer - well said - but the rest is rubbish