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A Very Nice Add-on Is Coming Our Way

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Obviously this product is not aimed at those using photo tiles as you don't get trees at all!

GHarrell

 

I didn't know that. Never been a fan of photoreal ever since blowing £100 on that Horizon VFR UK stuff. 18 DVDs of tosh! 

 

I lied, 12 DVDs. :lol:

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Glenn

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So far looks like a luke warm reception at AVSIM

 

 

There's a suprise :rolleyes:

 

I'm running these in FSX and P3d2.5 and think they look amazing with a noticable boost in fps. I guess performance will vary depending on set up and add ons, but far better looking tress without a hit is, as someone else said, a no brainer.

 

..18 DVDs of tosh!

Maybe a little harsh Ron. England and Wales were OK but Scotland and Ireland were junk. GenX with Treescape or RevX was pretty good, but I could not go back from FTX. And as for photoscenery with no Autogen, that really is the pits, unless you like flying many miles above the surface.

Trees look friggin' amazing!

 

I hope they do the same for the houses someday. And since we're at it... replace the old low-res textures that still remain and look like garbage :P

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Hopefully you knew that?

Of course, but having been mightily disappointed with VFR I didn't relish throwing good money after bad.

 

Mind you, I thrown vast amounts at aircraft I've flown once and airports ditto. I'll probably continue to do so. (No fool like an old fool eh?)

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Trees look friggin' amazing!

 

I hope they do the same for the houses someday. And since we're at it... replace the old low-res textures that still remain and look like garbage :P

 

Any comment on fps improvement in FSX?

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Frank van der Werff

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Any comment on fps improvement in FSX?

Not really, some areas will have next to zero new trees , PNW has new trees around cities airports and towns but you really have to look hard to find them elsewhere. I think this product gave everyone the idea it replaces the old trees and gave better performance with new ones...it doesn't replace anything it adds to it so how they can claim a performance increase is hogwash.

 

 


it doesn't replace anything it adds to it so how they can claim a performance increase is hogwash.

 

Did you enable the trees in FTX Central, then re-apply the region?

 

Tym

 

Never been a fan of photoreal ever since blowing £100 on that Horizon VFR UK stuff. 18 DVDs of tosh!

 

 

Maybe a little harsh Ron. England and Wales were OK but Scotland and Ireland were junk.

 

That really isn't true. There are dodgy areas in England and Wales (over saturated colours, and relatively low resolution textures), although large parts of the scenery are very good indeed (including the 0.6m per pixel High Resolution towns and cities that were added in Version 3). However, the resolution of most of the textures is 1.2m per pixel, and there is a clear difference between this and the 0.6m per pixel textures used for Scotland. Whilst there are (again) dodgy areas in Scotland (Glasgow in particular looks very low contrast and "washed out"), a lot of the scenery looks very good.

 

As for the Republic of Ireland, well....I didn't purchase that until very recently because it was back to 1.2m per pixel (and the mesh resolution was only 10m instead of the 5m for the UK). In the end, I decided to purchase it because I was fed up with the massive hit in performance that I got with the FTX Ireland product (landclass scenery really has to be displayed with maximum autogen density, otherwise it looks rubbish), and because I was noticing the generic nature of the scenery more and more (straight line edges to urban textures, some odd looking textures (those small "quarry" style ones), and because coastlines are rubbish. I was really happy with my decision when I decided to switch from FTX Ireland to VFR GenX Ireland. I lost all of those autogen trees and buildings, but I gained a massive increase in performance, and some really, really nice looking photoscenery. Final approach to runway 28 at EIDW Dublin is breathtaking now, with a great view of several golf courses, a couple of islands/peninsulas, and great watermasking (sandbars and other underwater features visible). Far superior to those low resolution "artificial" coastlines that are included with FTX landclass scenery.

 

Now all I need is a super detailed version of EINN Shannon, because there is some really beautiful coastal scenery around that airport aswell! If any airport developers are reading this, take it as a request :smile:

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Did you enable the trees in FTX Central, then re-apply the region?

 

Tym

Before and after.....ho hum

 

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Did I see somewhere that texture resolution needs to be increased from 1024 to 2048 to get the best out of these trees? If that's the case, is the developer saying that the VAS hit will be the same with the new 2048 trees when compared to the old 1024 versions?

Christopher Low

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Before and after.....ho hum

 

Well, the shots are rather small, but I can still clearly see that all tree textures have been replaced with higher-res versions, plus the color matching is better (subjective thing, I agree). What else did you expect from a texture replacement product?

 

Tym

That really isn't true. There are dodgy areas in England and Wales (over saturated colours, and relatively low resolution textures), although large parts of the scenery are very good indeed (including the 0.6m per pixel High Resolution towns and cities that were added in Version 3). However, the resolution of most of the textures is 1.2m per pixel, and there is a clear difference between this and the 0.6m per pixel textures used for Scotland. Whilst there are (again) dodgy areas in Scotland (Glasgow in particular looks very low contrast and "washed out"), a lot of the scenery looks very good.

 

As for the Republic of Ireland, well....I didn't purchase that until very recently because it was back to 1.2m per pixel (and the mesh resolution was only 10m instead of the 5m for the UK). In the end, I decided to purchase it because I was fed up with the massive hit in performance that I got with the FTX Ireland product (landclass scenery really has to be displayed with maximum autogen density, otherwise it looks rubbish), and because I was noticing the generic nature of the scenery more and more (straight line edges to urban textures, some odd looking textures (those small "quarry" style ones), and because coastlines are rubbish. I was really happy with my decision when I decided to switch from FTX Ireland to VFR GenX Ireland. I lost all of those autogen trees and buildings, but I gained a massive increase in performance, and some really, really nice looking photoscenery. Final approach to runway 28 at EIDW Dublin is breathtaking now, with a great view of several golf courses, a couple of islands/peninsulas, and great watermasking (sandbars and other underwater features visible). Far superior to those low resolution "artificial" coastlines that are included with FTX landclass scenery.

 

Now all I need is a super detailed version of EINN Shannon, because there is some really beautiful coastal scenery around that airport aswell! If any airport developers are reading this, take it as a request :smile:

 

If you'd like trees and buildings overlaid your Irish photoscenery, check out ScenProc I used to use it when I used FSX, looks fantastic and greatly increases immersion as trees and buildings are laid where they exist in OSM. It takes a little effort to figure it out but really the effect can't be overstated.

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Realistically placed trees are always good for visual realism, but buildings are much harder to "get right". My opinion is that buildings need to be much more accurate in terms of both placement, variety, and appearance to be even half as convincing as trees. This is why I am reluctant to add autogen buildings of any sort.

Christopher Low

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