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I want Reality-XP integration, and in their forums I think only the B55 has it? I am wondering what is your favorite of the 2 MilViz, the B55 or C310? I'd like a fast high quality twin. Thank you

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I prefeer the B55, but I have read that the B55 is a bit heavier in FPS.

 

What about the RA Duke B60 V2 (or turbine duke V2)

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I prefeer the B55, but I have read that the B55 is a bit heavier in FPS.

 

What about the RA Duke B60 V2 (or turbine duke V2)

 

Cannot stand the lack of proper night lighting in the virtual cockpit of the Real Air, and while Rob is a nice person he becomes hostile when I asked him if there was a way to give us a backlighting and dome light switch separately.

 

I almost bought the A2A 182 even though I missed the sale, but I know I will want something faster to enjoy all the Orbx regions.

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Cannot stand the lack of proper night lighting in the virtual cockpit of the Real Air, and while Rob is a nice person he becomes hostile when I asked him if there was a way to give us a backlighting and dome light switch separately.

 

I almost bought the A2A 182 even though I missed the sale, but I know I will want something faster to enjoy all the Orbx regions.

 

Yeah, i dont have it but i saw some pictures. Its a shame for me.

 

I read that the issues with FPS on the B55 are because of the GPS. Some people turns it off and gain some performace.

 

Also there is a fix that replaces the textures with some less quality ones, but that didn't help too much.

 

If you have a PMDG 737 and runs well, surely the B55 will do :P

 

Even though i didnt own it, i researched a lot because i wanted to purchase it too.

 

Talking about speed, i dont know if the B55 is lot faster than the C182. You have the Carenado B58, the PC-12 also.

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Just a word of caution. If you decided to purchase the Milviz product just make sure you buy direct from their website. Milviz has a fairly strict policy on updates - they will only supply it if you bought through them, otherwise you will need to get it from your original supplier - and if they don't offer it you are out of luck.  (this has been my direct experience).

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Good info thanks Ray. Milviz has the B55 for 30usd, that is a good price.

 

N, I dislike Carenado because of all the tweaking needed. I want to like their PC-12 because it is my favorite aircraft in real life, but the sounds are poor and an engine mod is required but still some bugs and a not that realistic flight model persist. I wish Realair or A2A made a Pilatus PC-12, or Flight1 redid theirs.

 

Looks like I am going B55

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I prefer the B55 as well.  I have had a bit of a performance issue on it, however my cure was to completely disable the included GPS units, and use RXP units instead.  Runs smooth as butter, with that done.  There are also upgrades available for it which allow you to use the GTN units from Flight1, or the Mindstar GNS units.

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I prefer the B55 as well.  I have had a bit of a performance issue on it, however my cure was to completely disable the included GPS units, and use RXP units instead.  Runs smooth as butter, with that done.  There are also upgrades available for it which allow you to use the GTN units from Flight1, or the Mindstar GNS units.

Hi Jimmy,

 

Can you share your panel for the B55 and rxp units?

 

Thx.

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Hi Jimmy,

 

Can you share your panel for the B55 and rxp units?

 

Thx.

 

Sorry, no can do.  It's been uninstalled for at least 6 months or so.  It was nothing difficult though, simply double-slashing '//' out any of the included gps lines in the panel.cfg and then including some RXP config lines, which if I recall correctly, I added to the toggle-able 'flat' panel that's included.

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Just a word of caution. If you decided to purchase the Milviz product just make sure you buy direct from their website. Milviz has a fairly strict policy on updates - they will only supply it if you bought through them, otherwise you will need to get it from your original supplier - and if they don't offer it you are out of luck. (this has been my direct experience).

 

 

Hi Ray - interesting, as my experience was exactly the opposite.  I purchased the B55 from one outside vendor (Flight1 I think? - don't remember for sure), and the C310 from another - in this case the short-lived Avsim store.  When they moved to their new system, I was emailed information regarding updates to the B55 directly from them.  I emailed them (Edit - actually I recall now I posted on their support site) asking about the C310 and explaining where I'd purchased, Colin replied requested proof of purchase from Avsim which I supplied via email, and the update information for the 310 was sent.

 

That said, I do agree that it's best to purchase directly - a policy I recommend for almost all purchases if possible.

 

 

 

Can you share your panel for the B55 and rxp units?

 

DJ, I'm not at my sim computer right now (and won't be for a bit) but somewhere back when the B55 was first released, I posted the settings I originally got to work.  Search for my username, B55 and RXP and you can hopefully find it.  As noted, it's not terribly difficult to get working.

 

Edit - did a quick search and found a re-post I'd done here: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/408441-milviz-b55-help-with-rxp-gns430530/#entry2673202

 

BTW, I also prefer the baby Baron as it's a plane I've spend a lot of time in IRL, and because they did such a good job with the cockpit modeling - based on a RW B55.

 

Scott

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I really want to buy the B55, but the FPS issues because of the GPS really push me out.

I dont own RealityXP or Flight1, and they arent in my short list of purchase.

OP: share your experiences with the B55 and the stock gps please

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Hi Ray - interesting, as my experience was exactly the opposite.  I purchased the B55 from one outside vendor (Flight1 I think? - don't remember for sure), and the C310 from another - in this case the short-lived Avsim store.  When they moved to their new system, I was emailed information regarding updates to the B55 directly from them.  I emailed them (Edit - actually I recall now I posted on their support site) asking about the C310 and explaining where I'd purchased, Colin replied requested proof of purchase from Avsim which I supplied via email, and the update information for the 310 was sent.

 

That said, I do agree that it's best to purchase directly - a policy I recommend for almost all purchases if possible.

 

 

 

 

DJ, I'm not at my sim computer right now (and won't be for a bit) but somewhere back when the B55 was first released, I posted the settings I originally got to work.  Search for my username, B55 and RXP and you can hopefully find it.  As noted, it's not terribly difficult to get working.

 

Edit - did a quick search and found a re-post I'd done here: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/408441-milviz-b55-help-with-rxp-gns430530/#entry2673202

 

BTW, I also prefer the baby Baron as it's a plane I've spend a lot of time in IRL, and because they did such a good job with the cockpit modeling - based on a RW B55.

 

Scott

Thanks!

Jose

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Hi Ray - interesting, as my experience was exactly the opposite. I purchased the B55 from one outside vendor (Flight1 I think? - don't remember for sure), and the C310 from another - in this case the short-lived Avsim store. When they moved to their new system, I was emailed information regarding updates to the B55 directly from them. I emailed them (Edit - actually I recall now I posted on their support site) asking about the C310 and explaining where I'd purchased, Colin replied requested proof of purchase from Avsim which I supplied via email, and the update information for the 310 was sent.

 

Yes, I had seen your posts and followed up with a PM to Colin when I could not find the update on the purchase website and copied my email proof of purchase when no-one responded from the original site. ( I had a system crash and had to reinstall Win 7 from scratch having lost all my registrations I was met with the response to the affect  "sorry can't help you". ???  I PM'd back and the response was "Sorry you feel that way". So there you go. Perhaps there was a valid reason he was more sympathetic to you rather than me - either way you cannot have one policy for one person and another for someone else - be that as it may, I did purchase the 732 from them and love it. I was also considering the Turbo twin when it goes out of beta....

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I was met with the response to the affect "sorry can't help you". ???

 

Interesting, but I think I see the difference.  The products I purchased were no longer available from either of the sites I originally bought from.  Sounds like in your case, the channel you used still offers the product.  If that's the situation Milviz would've updated them and they should bear the responsibility for providing updates.  It's lousy, though, when the consumer get's caught in the middle which leads us back to your original point with which I wholeheartedly agree.  If you can, buy direct from the developer.  It's the best way to go in the long run even if it costs a few dollars more up front.

 

Scott

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I really want to buy the B55, but the FPS issues because of the GPS really push me out.

I dont own RealityXP or Flight1, and they arent in my short list of purchase.

OP: share your experiences with the B55 and the stock gps please

there is a big fps problem with the stock gps, even selecting the aircraft in the setup flight screen the airplane doesn't rotate around smoothly. Loading it up my fps is worse than the pmdg 777. Panning in the cockpit the whole sim freezes up every 10 seconds or so. There is something very wrong with this airplane. I am very disappointed. I will try switching the default gps for the reality-xp but that is not a good sign.

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there is a big fps problem with the stock gps, even selecting the aircraft in the setup flight screen the airplane doesn't rotate around smoothly. Loading it up my fps is worse than the pmdg 777. Panning in the cockpit the whole sim freezes up every 10 seconds or so. There is something very wrong with this airplane. I am very disappointed. I will try switching the default gps for the reality-xp but that is not a good sign.

What a shame :(

Surely the RXP will help

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I used their rxp panel config and the same fps problem. Looks like I made a mistake buying this one. I like the Milviz 737 but something is very wrong with their B55. Opened up their reality-xp panelc.fg file and it is a mess. The old gps lines are still there so the bad default gns is still getting loaded, and that is what is causing the slowdown I bet.


To get rid of the slowdown I had to manually remove all the milviz gns lines in the panel.cfg. and replace them with the realityXp lines. But now my cockpit looks like this rWH4vSF.jpg

 

Hope support can help me over email or someone here. I'm done trying to tweak it all myself. So far not a happy customer.

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I used their rxp panel config and the same fps problem. Looks like I made a mistake buying this one. I like the Milviz 737 but something is very wrong with their B55

 

Not sure what you mean here by "used the RXP panel config".  Do you have the RXP 430 and 530 and are they up and functioning when you test, or am I simply misunderstanding what you're saying?  FYI, I could never get their RXP panel config file to work, so did my own mods to the default panel as noted above.

 

I'm running a fairly modest system in terms of hardware with lots of payware airports, Orbx regions, ASN wx and so on, and with the RXP 530 and 430 integrated this plane is not the least bit demanding.  I'm not suggesting that you're not seeing what you're seeing - just pointing out that there's something not right here, as the plane has been a solid performer for many of us.

 

Scott

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Try to delete the popout GPS (i mean, when you click Shift+Number). 

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Not sure what you mean here by "used the RXP panel config".  Do you have the RXP 430 and 530 and are they up and functioning when you test, or am I simply misunderstanding what you're saying?  FYI, I could never get their RXP panel config file to work, so did my own mods to the default panel as noted above.

 

I'm running a fairly modest system in terms of hardware with lots of payware airports, Orbx regions, ASN wx and so on, and with the RXP 530 and 430 integrated this plane is not the least bit demanding.  I'm not suggesting that you're not seeing what you're seeing - just pointing out that there's something not right here, as the plane has been a solid performer for many of us.

 

Scott

I do have both and the unlimited license to crossfill. There was another panel.cfg file named RXPpanel.cfg in the panel folder, so I thought to use that. I will try your config in the link did not see that before. Thanks

 

The framerate problem happens if you use the default gps, so I wanted to let that person know I had issues unless I replaced the default gps with the Reality-XP

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Not sure what you mean here by "used the RXP panel config".  Do you have the RXP 430 and 530 and are they up and functioning when you test, or am I simply misunderstanding what you're saying?  FYI, I could never get their RXP panel config file to work, so did my own mods to the default panel as noted above.

 

I'm running a fairly modest system in terms of hardware with lots of payware airports, Orbx regions, ASN wx and so on, and with the RXP 530 and 430 integrated this plane is not the least bit demanding.  I'm not suggesting that you're not seeing what you're seeing - just pointing out that there's something not right here, as the plane has been a solid performer for many of us.

 

Scott

The screenshot I posted is what my b55 cockpit looks like even after I coped over your panel.cfg exactly.

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I used their rxp panel config and the same fps problem. Looks like I made a mistake buying this one. I like the Milviz 737 but something is very wrong with their B55. Opened up their reality-xp panelc.fg file and it is a mess. The old gps lines are still there so the bad default gns is still getting loaded, and that is what is causing the slowdown I bet.

To get rid of the slowdown I had to manually remove all the milviz gns lines in the panel.cfg. and replace them with the realityXp lines. But now my cockpit looks like this rWH4vSF.jpg

 

Hope support can help me over email or someone here. I'm done trying to tweak it all myself. So far not a happy customer.

I was having the same exact problem with the latest installer.

 

Use the F1 Wrapper Installer version (an older version) with Scott's panel & gps.ini and it works perfectly.

 

Jose

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I give up. back to the RealAir Duke. I will try again this weekend to get the RXP units working otherwise I'm going to ask for a refund. I really want to like the B55 the cockpit textures look great

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I give up. back to the RealAir Duke. I will try again this weekend to get the RXP units working otherwise I'm going to ask for a refund. I really want to like the B55 the cockpit textures look great

The MV Baron55 has one of the best looking GA steam gauge cockpits I've seen.  I love the needle deflection on the ammeter.  It amazes me how many developers overlook this item which is on most, if not all checklists.

 

Maybe the cockpit designer could chime in with some suggestions? 

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