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I just bought v2 of Utx. I have global textures installed as well as vector and EU land class.

No promises but if anyone would like to see some comparisons then let me know what location and time permitting I will see what I can do.

I also have FTX England so can do 3 way comparisons if it is somewhere in England.

 

Chris

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I'd love to see Zurich, CH (not the airport, the actual city)  Global LC Europe + Vector  vs  LC Europe + UTX  if that's possible. Thanks!

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Thanks Chris,

 

I would be thankful for one or two shots from the Munich City Center.

 

Kind regards, Michael

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I am presently trying to decide between Vector or UTX2 and already have OpenLC+FTXG.

 

Some Scottish comparisons between Vector+OpenLC and UTX2+OpenLC would be useful, with FTX Global textures enabled.

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Ok guys I will see what I can do when I'm back home.

 

Harry and Ckyliu, utx includes land class so I can do ftx global with lc europe and vector vs ftx global and utx.

 

Chris

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Ah okay, so you can't have OpenLC Europe on top of UTX Europe v2?

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Ah okay, so you can't have OpenLC Europe on top of UTX Europe v2?

UTX uses more accurate commercial data so putting OpenLC above it would negate that. You *could* layer it below and if, by chance, there were some area that UTX didn't cover, the OpenLC would take precedence. However, I doubt if you'd find that.

 

Personally, I prefer UTX and GEP3D significantly over Global, Vector and OpenLC.

 

Vic

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I won't be moving across to GEX on grounds of cost, having already purchased FTX Global, which I am happy with anyway.

 

Vector is a different matter, I haven't bought it yet because I've heard some very mixed things about it, especially in Europe where I tend to do most of my flying these days.

 

I bought OpenLC because I understood it included some new classes that I otherwise wouldn't see, hence me wanting to layer it on top of UTX (so essentially I'd be using UTX in lieu of FTX Vector). But if landclass data is more accurate in UTX, I suppose my OpenLC purchase was a waste  :(  and I should layer it below as you've advised

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My preference of GEX doesn't imply that there is anything wrong with global - you should do just fine with it. IMHO, UTX is FAR superior to vector.

 

I layered OpenLC below UTX with no issues. Also removed it completely so I nwas just running UTX - noticed no loss of anything - so I left it removed.

 

Remember, we're talking about visual perception here - I can tell you all day long that the UTX data is more accurate BUT if it doesn't please YOUR eye - you won't care.

 

I don't have the link handy but look for "UTX Landclass sandwich" on SimForums and put he OpenLC in between as discussed and see how it looks. Then disable it and look again.

 

Vic

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To be honest, the reason I am getting interested in UTX is because I am losing my faith that Vector is ever going to live up to the promises made. It's starting to push a year since the last update and the next one better deliver big time or I am going to give up on it.

OpenLC, on the other hand, looks very good to me, especially in Switzerland and Italy but if UTX + Global comes even close then I might ditch that too.

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Sorry for the delay guys.

Got back today and we are off to a wedding in Scotland first thing in the morning (long drive!) and won't be back until Sunday night.

I will post more on Monday of the other requests but for now here are a few of Zurich. Sorry to promise and not deliver fully but I will when I get back.

 

These are low resolution to give you an idea. Click the link for a gallery of full 4k ones!

 

http://tutmeister.co.uk/zurich/index.php

 

 

global and vector and lc

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global and utx

zurich%20global%20and%20utx%20small.jpg

 

global and vector and lc

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global and utx

zurich2%20global%20and%20utx%20small.jpg

 

Cheers

Chris

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Is it me or does the global version blow away the global with vector - that makes no sense unless with vector its way more accurate - a lot less going on in the vector version - utx and base global look similar - i am comparing the link photos not ones posted

 

I like global without vector - thanks for sharing this Chris - well done

 

UTX looks nice also

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Yes Richard, you are right.

For some reason with vector there are larger 'green' areas with not as many buildings. Need to compare to google earth as I don't know the area. Only posted them as they were requested.

 

Also far less detail using vector - bridges, roads etc. although you need to zoom in on the full res pics to see the real differences.

 

I could do with some clean prepar3d only shots but that means removing global so they will have to wait for a while.

 

Chris

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Yes Richard, you are right.

For some reason with vector there are larger 'green' areas with not as many buildings. Need to compare to google earth as I don't know the area. Only posted them as they were requested.

 

Also far less detail using vector - bridges, roads etc. although you need to zoom in on the full res pics to see the real differences.

 

Chris

 

Thanks Buddy - not going to install that again as its not worth the fps hit especially as it dumbs things down - eye opening

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Actually just had a quick look in Google and vector and lc might be more accurate around the airport. Although there is no doubt utx gives better bridges roads and rail. Could even be an issue with utx install seeing as it is so different. I will recheck everything.

 

Need to check some other areas but don't have time now.

 

Chris

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Thanks, Chris. Global + Vector + LC definitely has the edge as far as capturing the general lay of the land goes. The forests interspersed in urban areas in Switzerland are dense patches, not spread out trees as UTX shows. And the semi-industrial areas are more accurate too.  But the shoreline depiction sucks and roads do look better with UTX, although secondary roads are too wide. 

 

Altogether Switzerland with UTX looks a bit too US-ish to me. I think I'll wait and see what Vector 1.25 brings.

Thanks again for putting this together!

 

edit: just saw you got more or less the same impression by means of Google Earth.

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No problem I like the non vector version saves a bunch of ssd space and no fps hit - win win - thanks

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Just to confuse the issue.....I couldn't leave it!

 

Tried it with Global, LC Europe and UTX without the UTX  LC layers and I think it is the best of both. Need to check other areas where I usually fly to be sure.

 

I have added a couple of screenshots to the linked gallery.

 

http://tutmeister.co.uk/zurich/index.php

 

So I either have an issue with my utx install, utx doesn't have as good LC as orbx or maybe utx is just weak in this area. Really will have to leave investigating it now though!!

 

Chris

 

Chris

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It's not the best solution to have 15 fuel storage tanks in a forest, but always better than 15 fuel storage tanks in the middle of a suburban area. I vote for global/vector/lc :lol:

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It's not the best solution to have 15 fuel storage tanks in a forest, but always better than 15 fuel storage tanks in the middle of a suburban area. I vote for global/vector/lc :lol:

 

LOL good one - right in my face thought something was odd and there it is didnt even notice it

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Updated with google comparisons.

 

Large 4k images   http://tutmeister.co.uk/zurich/index.php

 

Small images     http://tutmeister.co.uk/zurich/small/index.php

 

Interesting...... Using orbx LC Europe seems very close to real. Utx gives better detail in the autogen than vector though so for Zurich it seems LC Europe with UTX is the best, certainly for this location.

 

Will post more comparisons from different areas next week. I think I can do a comparison page like this for a few places, its pretty quick now I have it set up.

 

Cheers

Chris

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It's not the best solution to have 15 fuel storage tanks in a forest, but always better than 15 fuel storage tanks in the middle of a suburban area. I vote for global/vector/lc :lol:

 

Are you making fun of Swiss infrastructural planning or the land classes?

 

tutmeiser - did you enable tertiary roads with Vector? And can the width and color of road still be easily adjusted with UTX? I think that was the case with UTX 1, but back then I didn't pay much attention to it.  And can you disable power lines in UTX?

Thanks again, that was very helpful. There's one or two other areas I'd be interested in but I should give others a chance to come up with a request first. 

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