September 26, 201510 yr Moderator I think you're citing what I would call an extreme situation. In that case the mods should warn the elite user his comment was inflammatory and if it was me I'd lock him out of that thread and would consider removing his comment as it's not adding anything constructive to the discussion. Do we really want people like that in AvSim? The sad part is that it is actually quite common, and from what I've seen, it's not just the long-time users but even the mods who join in. It happens on almost every forum I visit (including non flight-sim ones) that has this feature, and new users who complain about it are simply banned or told to go elsewhere. However, I'd much rather have the like button instead of users replying with "+1" posts :-)
September 26, 201510 yr in the latest IPS (forum software) as the admin you have the option to use Dislike/Like or only Like option; using Like only eliminates any negative unexplained response; I run this on our dedicated support forums, you also have the option to show who gave you the like; which I think is important as well as part of the communications; in today’s virtual world these equivalent to a wink a head nod or even a smile someone gives you in person you when you make a comment,
September 26, 201510 yr think you're citing what I would call an extreme situation. In that case the mods should warn the elite user his comment was inflammatory That's what we don't like here. Things or words that incite people to become inflammatory. I do not like Facebook, never have, never will. But you can go to the bottom of this topic/forum and hit the Facebook icon and "Like" this topic or this website all you want! Best regards, Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
September 26, 201510 yr Author Moderator That's what we don't like here. Things or words that incite people to become inflammatory. I do not like Facebook, never have, never will. But you can go to the bottom of this topic/forum and hit the Facebook icon and "Like" this topic or this website all you want! Best regards, Neither does anyone I would imagine. But you have to treat people like adults and if they don't behave then lock them from a topic or even from posting if they'e serial offenders. I didn't bother with Facebook until I retired but I find it a great way of staying in touch with ex-colleagues not to mention seeing what my family are up to! :smile: in today’s virtual world these equivalent to a wink a head nod or even a smile someone gives you in person you when you make a comment, Excellent point. I have made friends from AvSim and showing your support for a fellow member can only be a positive. Sceptics might take a different view. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
September 26, 201510 yr Eh. Despite the fact that other Aviation forums have used like votes for years with no apparent issues, Avsim encountered controversy each time it was attempted. Honestly, I got the impression at the time that certain users were deliberately abusing the system with the aim of getting it removed. By the time it was, I was glad to see it go, as the behaviors being shown were completely contrary to the apparent age demographic of the site. The whole "issuing warnings" and "abuse will be punished" thing was also mentioned previously, but I suspect it was just an unnecessary added chore for the mods. Previous experience makes me think that unfortunately such a system can't work, here. If it is brought back though, I hope I'm wrong. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
October 12, 201510 yr Author Moderator Has any more thought been given to my suggestion? I'm not sure if the AvSim team have regular 'virtual' meetings to discuss such things. Would be nice to at least give it a trial and see how things go. :wink: Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
October 13, 201510 yr Hi Ray, It won't happen as long as we are in Performance Mode. As of right now, if I had to vote, I would vote against it. Moderators already are being criticized when they warn someone, suspend them for trolling, and other actions and this would just add to their duties. We already had the like/dislike feature and it did not work. Tom reluctantly had to remove it when some members got very upset with their ratings. There is no other flight simulation website that does this to my knowledge. It most likely will not happen. We appreciate your suggestion though. Best regards, Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
October 13, 201510 yr Author Moderator Hi Jim, Very disappointing to hear that people can get so touchy in what is meant to be an adult forum. Just to reiterate I'm not talking about accumulating 'likes'. You wouldn't be able to see how many you had. Just that if I liked a post from someone I could indicate that without having to quote the bit and post. Fully understand your workload during busy times and wouldn't want to add to it. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
October 13, 201510 yr There is no other flight simulation website that does this to my knowledge. It most likely will not happen. We appreciate your suggestion though. Best regards, Just as a heads-up, the Aerosoft forum, the X-pilot.com forums, and the Orbx forums have had the upvote/Downvote/like feature for a long time. (implemented it at almost the exact same time as Avsim originally did) I was always puzzled why Avsim encountered such difficulties with the system when other sites were able to implement it with apparently nothing even close to the same personality issues. In that I was disappointed, that a relative few were able to derail what should have been a positive feature. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
October 13, 201510 yr Author Moderator Well said HiFlyer. I 'like' your post. Add to your list the FS Labs forum. Say's a lot about the type of people this forum attracts. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
October 14, 201510 yr Never once under the old system did I dislike a post. The old adage if you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all sums it up for me. My post count skyrocketed after the like/dislike button disappeared, but I would still prefer to see a like only button Chris Sunseri
October 14, 201510 yr Author Moderator Chris, Good point. But some people love to make controversial statements just to stir things up. I'd have a warning system. 5 strikes and you're out for 3 months. More work I know for moderators but if such a system was in place it would certainly make people think twice before starting an argument. Not the same as a different opinion. We can all have those. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
October 16, 201510 yr It's back... It's a built in system we disabled after some negative shenanigans. I have enabled the positive one only. Sincerely, Chase My 2017 Build: Liquid Cooled i7 7700K CPU idle @ 4.2GHz | MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8G | 16GB's DDR4 4000 RAM | ASUS 27" 144hz Gaming Monitor | MSI Z270 M7 Motherboard | Windows 10 | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 500GB SSD
October 16, 201510 yr Author Moderator It's back... It's a built in system we disabled after some negative shenanigans. I have enabled the positive one only. Thank you Chase. Positive votes was all I ever wanted. Your post gets my first 'like'. :smile: Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
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