October 18, 201510 yr Hi Captains, i`m usualy absolutley happy with V3 but since i installed GEP3D and UTX Europe i have VAS Problems again Actualy i`m on a long haul flight from EDDF to KJFK with the PMDG 77F. At the start in EDDF i had 1200 MB VAS free which is great then somewhere over the Nederlands the vas dropped to 450 MB Free after i left the UK i only had 190 MB left no i m 200 Miles in front of the Canadian Cost and i only have 150 MB VAS left. I thought over the "sea" i should get a lot of vas back because there is only water. I configured UTX to the nickn utx settings guide for balanced performance and graphics. I don`t have every slider on the full right: FXAA: Off MSAA : 4 Samples Antisrtopic: 16x Texture Resuolution 1024x1024 Tesselation: ON Frames Locked to 33 with Vsync and Tripple buffering Scenery: Detail Radius: HIGH Tesselation Factor: high Mesh: 15 Meters Textures: 15 cm Scenery Objects sliders are all on Normal Water Deail: Medium Clouds and Plane for water shadows Special effects both : medium Lightining: HDR: On Landling lights ground: on Lens flare : on Shadows Medium Terrain shadwos : 0 m Cloud shadow : 0m Object shadow: 6 km Internal and Extran vehicle : receive and cast rest of shadows: off weather: cloud draw distance: 80 mi coverage : medium volumetric fog on with detailed clouds Traffic: everything off My Hardware: i7 5820K @ 4,5 Ghz Full HD Monitior (1920x1080) 16 GB DDR4 2400 Mhz GTX750ti ( will be replaced with 980TI on Monday ) P3D V3 on a SSD thanks for your advice C. W. ,Ryzen 9 5950X @H2O , 32 GB RAM DDR4 3600 Mhz CL15 , Corsair MP600 Pro Watercooled 2 TB for P3D, Samsung SSD980 1 TB for Addons and Crucial MMX500, Red Devil Ultimate 6900 XT
October 18, 201510 yr That sounds indeed strange with those normal settings. Did you fly over London and shannon? How is your sound setting in the PMDG 777? If set to all sounds will take 2-300mb of vas you could dumb over seas.If it is set to none leave it there or you will hit VAS LIMIT. In case of an emergency oom avoid you can reduce textures to 512kb later towards the approach. Strange indeed Michael Moe Michael Moe
October 18, 201510 yr Author the only thing that changed was the installation of gep3d and utx europe i will try it again with gep3d and utx disabeld. C. W. ,Ryzen 9 5950X @H2O , 32 GB RAM DDR4 3600 Mhz CL15 , Corsair MP600 Pro Watercooled 2 TB for P3D, Samsung SSD980 1 TB for Addons and Crucial MMX500, Red Devil Ultimate 6900 XT
October 18, 201510 yr Moderator GEP3D and UTX would not cause that issue. I have both and have had no issues. I do NOT fly the PMDG however. IMHO something else is causing the issue. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
October 18, 201510 yr I think there is a lot of people intent on beaking P3D V3 and getting upset because they can not!!!!... Did you have an OOM message, then there is no VAS problem. enjoy your flights looking at the scenery and flying the AC not the vAS... Jorge
October 18, 201510 yr I never had an issue with VAS in p3d or FSX until I installed vector, I think UTX does the same job,somthing about thsee programs breaks stuff ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170
October 19, 201510 yr Moderator It's probably the UTX settings. If you turn on all the optons it will hit VAS and FPS, namely roads and bridges. The poster needs to post his UTX settings and/or monitor the area in the UTX setup tool that shows the expected performance hit from each setting. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
October 19, 201510 yr Moderator As Jorge said - what difference does it make *IF* you don't get an OOM message. LM has done different things with memory management in V3. The monitoring of VAS can be very misleading. As long as it DOESN'T give an OOM error, the remaining or used VAS really means nothing. Just fly if you get OOM's - report it if not - see #1 Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
October 19, 201510 yr Well said Vic, I find that in this and other fora , people seems to be intent in breaking the SIM instead of learning to fly... Jorge
October 19, 201510 yr I never had an issue with VAS in p3d or FSX until I installed vector, I think UTX does the same job,somthing about thsee programs breaks stuff Especially vector Rich Sennett
October 19, 201510 yr Author Hi Togehter, i get the oom message and p3d closes :( As i said i didnt activate all the UTX settings i exactly did what nickn describes in his guide here :http://www.simforums.com/forums/setup-utx-all-versions-update-new-lights-settings_topic46147.html So BR4, BR5 and RD4 and RD5 is disabled and also: RCX Road Encasements Urban Major and Secondary Roads Urban connecting and important Roads Minor Rural Roads brgds C. W. ,Ryzen 9 5950X @H2O , 32 GB RAM DDR4 3600 Mhz CL15 , Corsair MP600 Pro Watercooled 2 TB for P3D, Samsung SSD980 1 TB for Addons and Crucial MMX500, Red Devil Ultimate 6900 XT
October 19, 201510 yr Moderator ok, that is strange. By itself GEP3D/UTX put more of a load on your system but I and many others run them just fine with similar settings. There may be something else on your system that is interfering. GEP3D/UTX may put it over the top but there is something else that is eating VAS. Do you have any other scenery add-ons, any other airports, any ORBX products? Running any other add-ons - ASN? FSCREW? etc. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
October 24, 201510 yr Author Hi Guys, i don`t know how many know the thread of ROB regarding VAS in P3D V3 but i found out that with Hyperthreading enabled and no Affinity mask set i get the OOM`s wihtout HT i have no prolbems. C. W. ,Ryzen 9 5950X @H2O , 32 GB RAM DDR4 3600 Mhz CL15 , Corsair MP600 Pro Watercooled 2 TB for P3D, Samsung SSD980 1 TB for Addons and Crucial MMX500, Red Devil Ultimate 6900 XT
October 25, 201510 yr So can someone explain to me ACTUALLY what they are using as I last night I got an OOM flying from CYVR to EGLL. When I used FSX I would always get the OOM on approach into EGLL. Last night I got it over greenland. My prepar3d.cfg is after the pictures. Any help is greatly appreciated. http://vataware.com/flight/562c2aa6535233559e000001 this are my settings. Can someone PLEASE PLEASE tell me where I am going wrong. 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Set RepairConfig=0 in MigrationTool.cfg to disable. 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