October 31, 201510 yr Hello, Ok, so I've made the jump from FSX to P3Dv3 but I have a problem that really has me baffled. Every time I'm in the VC (Aerosoft Airbus OR PMDG) at an airport I always have this 2-3 sec stutter then butter smooth.... then 2-3 sec stutter...some sort of cycle that I can't get rid of. It's more pronounced during turns or looking side ways. I mean honestly, the only reason why I left FSX was because of the mouse-cursor drop prob but making the switch to P3D that issue seemed to be diminished and now somehow i'm having this 2-3sec stutter is driving me insane. I previously had WIN 7 with same issue and then i read somewhere that upgrading to WIN 10 solved the same issue others were having....didn't work for me. My CPU temps are fine, GPU not overloaded, FSCUIPC not installed (case anyone wondering - autosave feat) & really don't know where to go from here. I don't know if to called this Microsuttering or Frame Rate Slow Downs but i believed it's the latter. E.G. of FRSD - http://www.testufo.com/#test=stutter&demo=slowdowns&foreground=FFFFFF&background=000000&max=12&pps=720. The thing is, I have the sim capped @ 30FPS NOT 60 FPS with VSYNC ON & TB activated so I don't see why the sim should slow down...then smooth again. Just so if anyone's wondering, it's not a performance issue, I mantain 30FPS in all situations just the 2-3Sec stutter cycle Can anyone help out? :smile: P3Dv3 WIN10 Asus rampage IV i7 4820K 4.6GHz Evga 960 SSC 16gb ram Asus VS248 monitor Regards, Dario
October 31, 201510 yr I had similar issues and most of the regular stuttering was removed by setting the fps unlimited in prepar3d and using the 30 fps limit in Nvidia Inspector. Dragos I9-13900K/ Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC/ Aorus Master Z790/ Kingston 64GB@6000Mhz DDR 5/ 2TB nvme 0.2 Samsung 980 PRO/ Deepcool LS720
October 31, 201510 yr Author I had similar issues and most of the regular stuttering was removed by setting the fps unlimited in prepar3d and using the 30 fps limit in Nvidia Inspector. ok will try and advise. dash8q400 tried what you suggested but that doesn't help. Thx tho
October 31, 201510 yr What resolution? How much VRAM on the 960? What kind of AA are you using? This sounds like texture loading stutters, especially when panning the view. You might try running eVGA's PrecisionX utility and watch your GPU and VRAM usage...if they're close to capacity that might explain it. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 31, 201510 yr Moderator Your system looks more than capable of running w/o that type of stutter. Is it a regular pattern? Check if any other programs are doing anything. Check that all permissions are granted with your AV. Does it do the same with a default a/c? Is P3D installed in the default location or in it's own folder? Have you trieed running as Admin? Just as a FWIW - I use ESET AV and it has always been trouble free. A while back I suddenly started getting this same type of stutter. Finally determined that a recent update to ESET had turned ON the "check file on open" feature which had been off by default. I do NOT think it's your P3D install. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
October 31, 201510 yr Check your frequency of autosave on FSUIPC. The default is 1 minute intervals, way too often. Also if you use a weather program like ASN, check your frquency of updates. Lee H i9 13900KF 64GB Ram 24GB RTX 4090
October 31, 201510 yr You might want to experiment with AfinityMask and/or HT On/Off to see if that makes a difference. Also, try setting water to any value below Ultra (i.e. High or Medium). Ultra makes use of CUDA libraries. Also turn off Terrain shadows to see if that helps. Cheers Rob.
October 31, 201510 yr Author What resolution? How much VRAM on the 960? What kind of AA are you using? This sounds like texture loading stutters, especially when panning the view. You might try running eVGA's PrecisionX utility and watch your GPU and VRAM usage...if they're close to capacity that might explain it. Regards 1920x1080 2gb GDDR5 In Game - Anisotropic 8x, 8 Samples NI - AA MODE Enhanced the app AA setting- AppCtrl/ off AA TransSuper- off Anisotropic Filter Mode - AppCtrl Anisotropic Setting -Linear I do have PrecisonX installed so will have a look...Thank You for your reply w6kd. Your system looks more than capable of running w/o that type of stutter. Is it a regular pattern? Check if any other programs are doing anything. Check that all permissions are granted with your AV. Does it do the same with a default a/c? Is P3D installed in the default location or in it's own folder? Have you trieed running as Admin? Just as a FWIW - I use ESET AV and it has always been trouble free. A while back I suddenly started getting this same type of stutter. Finally determined that a recent update to ESET had turned ON the "check file on open" feature which had been off by default. I do NOT think it's your P3D install. Vic Yup a regular pattern 2-3sec stutter....smooth....2-3sec stutter.... No other programs are running only essentials like ASN & PFPX No AV, only Malwarebytes and i usually kill this upon starting P3D Yup, same thing with default A/C P3D sits on C:\P3D Always run admin You might want to experiment with AfinityMask and/or HT On/Off to see if that makes a difference. Also, try setting water to any value below Ultra (i.e. High or Medium). Ultra makes use of CUDA libraries. Also turn off Terrain shadows to see if that helps. Cheers Rob. Hi Rob Big fan of your P3D videos especially that Delta 77L.....smoothness is unreal man. Ok, I have affinity mask set at 14 and HT off so will try changing to 84 and HT ON I tried water settings from as low to ultra, no diff and the same with shadows too
October 31, 201510 yr Author I just fiddled with HT and affinity mask...still stutters. Also, GPU and VRAM usage appear to be fine according PrecisionX. ASN Freq updates are ok So don't know what next
October 31, 201510 yr One technique I use is to do a CTRL-ALT-DELETE and run the task manager with CPU usage sorted high to low...then watch the task manager for a process that pops up near the top of the task manager list in sync with the stutters. Processes that can cause this include antivirus software, the Windows file indexing service, Windows Defender, etc. When you say GPU/VRAM usage are fine, what numbers are you seeing? Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
October 31, 201510 yr Author w6kd As the sim stutter i didn't catch anything in the processes syncing but here's a screenie https://ctrlv.cz/EUE8 GPU/VRAM usage 1700-1800. Max 2048
November 1, 201510 yr I also had these micro stutters that drove me crazy and it only happened with the pmdg 737 and 777. I finally got rid of my stutters using dsr, fullscreen and vsync. Now p3d runs butter smooth.
November 1, 201510 yr VRAM usage at 1800MB on a 2GB card may not be giving the graphics system enough headroom. Can't say for sure, but I'd be uncomfortable running that close to capacity. On my old 4GB 980, there was stuttering with VRAM usage above 3800 (although the GPU utilization was also >95% at the time). Also, not good to have the WIndows Search indexer running with the flight sim. That one has caused a lot of headaches for people. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
November 1, 201510 yr Author DSR doesn't help and I tried shutting down Windows Search indexer and nothing. well i previously had a GTX 760 4GB but i sold it and bought this GTX 960 2GB SuperSuperclocked. I'm really stump with this. Guess I'm going to give up this hobby for a longgg while and there's no way I going back to FSX wid those mouse-cursor drops....sighhh Dario
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