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Hello All  :hi:

 

So I am mainly a GA pilot, but i am fed up of the standard FSX GPS systems and I am looking at purchasing Flight 1's GTN 750 GPS, it looks incredible.

 

I do have a few questions though,

 

- How easy is it to integrate into the Navajo?

 

- Can it also be integrated into the Pilatus PC 12?

 

- Are there any adverse effects in Carenado aircraft when the GTN is used?

Thanks for any advice 

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- How easy is it to integrate into the Navajo?

 

For integration in the VC, just run the F1GTN750PA31310.exe

(..\SimObjects\Airplanes\Carenado PA31-310 Navajo)

 

About the PC12 I don't know.

 

The 2D version can be added using the GNS installer I think, but then you do not see it in the VC.

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It does not fit into the PC12 all that well.. as the panel is modeled to accommodate a GNS gauge.

 

You can use it in many other airplanes, however,...

 

RealAir Turbine Duke V2   (and soon Legacy as well)

 

a2a Cherokee, C182, Comanche

 

Milviz C310, B55

 

Carenado F406, and with my mods TBM850, Citation, Hawker, Phenom 300.

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Hello All  :hi:

 

So I am mainly a GA pilot, but i am fed up of the standard FSX GPS systems and I am looking at purchasing Flight 1's GTN 750 GPS, it looks incredible.

 

I do have a few questions though,

 

- How easy is it to integrate into the Navajo?

 

- Can it also be integrated into the Pilatus PC 12?

 

- Are there any adverse effects in Carenado aircraft when the GTN is used?

Thanks for any advice 

I bought it earlier today. Integration was pretty easy: you want to use the integration file in the sim objects carenado navajo folder to integrate it into the panel. The only problem I had was getting the GTN 750 to find the trainer folder. I had downloaded the trainer from Garmin earlier and had been doing some preparatory studying. When the Flight1 installer prompted me to download the trainer, I passed since I knew I had already downloaded it (it's a pretty big file). However, I couldn't get the GTN to find the trainer, even though I pointed it to the folder when I had downloaded it. So I re-installed the GTN and downloaded the trainer again when prompted, and this time it worked.

 

The panel integration looks very good, however I find myself using the F7 popup version often as the larger format displays the map and charts more clearly.

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There is also a user created mod for the Carenado Cessna C340.

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I just realised that the GPS only supports navdata upgrades from Garmin.

 

That may be a deal breaker as they are ridiculously expensive for sim use.

 

How accurate is the data that Gomes with the GTN?

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The GTN Trainer comes with a 2015 database, so that is a good start.

 

If you know some RW pilots, you may well be able to get a copy of recently expired navdata

to update your database over time.

 

I tend to update the navdata annually for my personal use.

 

If you somehow need monthly updates a la Navigraph.. that is indeed not practical..  :wink:

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Thanks Bert for the info regarding the navdata. I too was wondering about its updateability. So I would think that having NavDataPro's AIRAC 15 12 R1 installed and not updating the data should prevent, for the most part, incompatibilities.

 

JJ

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Oh that's good I didn't realise the database was as recent as 2015, I heard somewhere that it was 2011 data that comes with it?

 

Also is there any fps/performance loss with the GTN?

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Garmin updated their GTN trainer a while back, for which F1 GTN basically got a free database update as they are in fact an interface to integrate said trainer into FSX. Performance loss with GTN is tolerable on the scale of about 5fps on my mid-line setup, from high 20s to mid-low 20s onboard A2A aircrafts with fair weather and scenery addons.

 

Of the database themselves...Guess only the few that actually own or share an actual GTN-equipped aircraft and kept an up-to-date database could do much about it, as the price of one relatively complete set of such updates usually exceeded the rest of the average simulator setup combined, including hardware.

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Thanks for the reply,

 

I just want to be sure of performance before I buy

 

I am running an

 

i5 4670k 4.2GHz

2GB GTX 770

8GB Hyper X Beast RAM 2400MHz

 

Can anyone hazard a guess on what drop I can expect on my system?

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I am running a similar performance system (i7 4790k @ 4.0Ghz, 4GB GTX 970) and don't think I have seen any noticeable performance degradation.

 

Generally it's a very impressive system. My only disappointment is that there are no charts available for Europe. I knew this before I bought it, but it is a big drawback if you are mostly flying in Europe (I live in UK).

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One note about the updated GTN trainer, and others please confirm. After the update if you hold down the Home button long enough to return to the map, you will get an alert message indicating your Home button is stuck. I wrote Flight 1 about it and they confirmed it was an issue in the updated trainer.

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To be precise, it appears that charts are only available for US airports. No charts for Canada either, or for anywhere else in the world. Just the US.

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Just found that out on approach into Calgary Springbank...guess a tablet turned EFB is still necessary! Or maybe charts on another screen.

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I am running a similar performance system (i7 4790k @ 4.0Ghz, 4GB GTX 970) and don't think I have seen any noticeable performance degradation.

 

Generally it's a very impressive system. My only disappointment is that there are no charts available for Europe. I knew this before I bought it, but it is a big drawback if you are mostly flying in Europe (I live in UK).

 

Ok I shall take that into consideration on the performance side of things, I fly completely in Northern America mostly CONUS so that isn't an issue :)

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To be precise, it appears that charts are only available for US airports. No charts for Canada either, or for anywhere else in the world. Just the US.

 

Safetaxi charts are available,  Approach Charts are not.. (U.S. only)

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Just found that out on approach into Calgary Springbank...guess a tablet turned EFB is still necessary! Or maybe charts on another screen.

 

Fltplan.com provides coverage for USA and Canada, and their FltPlan Go app for the iPad and Android tablets provides flight planning, weather and winds aloft reports, charts, real time flight tracking (with your computer and tablet both connected to the same wifi network), and a multitude of EFB type tools. I have no affiliation with FltPlan, but really like the site and the app and would not fly without either,   Here is a link to a topic showing many of the apps features:

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/471387-fltplan-go-app-for-ipad-way-cool/

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Fltplan.com provides coverage for USA and Canada, and their FltPlan Go app for the iPad and Android tablets provides flight planning, weather and winds aloft reports, charts, real time flight tracking (with your computer and tablet both connected to the same wifi network), and a multitude of EFB type tools. I have no affiliation with FltPlan, but really like the site and the app and would not fly without either,   Here is a link to a topic showing many of the apps features:

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/471387-fltplan-go-app-for-ipad-way-cool/

 

I see...does look good, thanks!

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Can anyone confirm that you do not need to install or have the supplied software running while using the GTN?

 

Speaking to different friends who have the gauge and getting some conflicting reports...

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If by supplied software you mean the GTN trainer with a ~2GB download size, then you need to install them, but running them in background is unnecessary.

 

Even though they do make a good EFB while flying in the States if you have a second screen..but who need that when you could undock your F1 GTN and put that there instead!

 

Still fun to play around all by itself, though.

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Yes it was the GTN Trainer I was referring to. Just seems like a big download if it doesn't even need to be running.

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I repeat...You do need it installed for code and data as F1 GTN installer indicated, which are themselves largely an interface to link the trainer into the sim.

 

Otherwise it won't work.

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Ok so I took the plunge and picked up the GTN750, its a great piece of kit.

 

The only thing I have found with it so far is the moving around the map, when I click and drag to move on the map it doesn't move despite "Pan Mode" being shown on the black bar at the bottom of the GPS screen?

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