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FO nut turn up the flaps after landing

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Hi,

 

first I love the new FS2Crew!! 

 

Problem my FO did not turn flaps up after landing. clean up works great but the flaps still in Ldg position at the gate.

 

Greets

Ben

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Hi Ben,

 

Did the flaps go partially up?

 

If so, it means the FO is using cold wx procedures.  Basically you taxi in with the flaps down so you can inspect (at the gate) the flaps tracks for any slush/ice etc that may have gotten in the flaps tracks prior to retracting the flaps.

 

If not, you're usng hardware that is overriding the signal FS2Crew sends to control the flaps.

 

Best,

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Hi,

 

It happened to me but as it was after a pretty hard landing, I put that onto a "after hard landing contingency procedure" even though it is not modelled!  :Tounge:

 

Seriously, it happened once to me recently up to now and I have not been able to determine why. The clean up and shutdown procedure were conducted normally except only for the flaps.

 

Maybe something prevented the FO from retracting the flaps like key conflict. 

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Good Morning,

 

yes the flaps working in the air. I never look to the temperatures. I fly with ASN so i think the temp was always below 15° so the FO use the cold wx procedures. I´ll try it in warmer regions.

 

Thanks Byork for the fast help!!!!

 

Greets

Ben

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I don't have the code with me, but i think the trigger is temp below 5 with some kind of ambient moisture present.

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I did a few test flights, even ib warm weather, but the fo refuses to move the flaps up. Can it have something to do that my spoilers being disarmed doesn't trigger the after landing proc? I never had the problem till recently..

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You fly button control SOP2? You must turn off the landing lights after the liberation of the runway. Then FO will manage the flaps. And turn on the taxi lights.

If you just say OK CLEAN UP it's not enough.

 

page 28 of the manual

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If you just say OK CLEAN UP it's not enough.

 

That's actually not correct :-)

 

Victor... are you using button control or voice control?   Which SOP?

 

Are you using any hardware connected to flaps?

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i have the same problem after landing  FO doesnt retract the flaps at all

 

Brendon Powys

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Thanks for the added info.

 

I examined the code and see the combination of circumstances that could cause this now.

 

I'll fix it in the next update.

 

In the meantime, if it happens to you, just retract the flaps manually.  

 

Best,

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I've started to see this now as well a couple of times so great you already found out what combination of things could cause this.

 

Could you let us know what we need to make sure of for this not to happen until next version is released?

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Had this happen last night with button control, I retracted flaps manually.  

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ould you let us know what we need to make sure of for this not to happen until next version is released?

 

It's out of your control as the triggers are environmental base.

 

But as the weather warms up, you'll stop seeing it  :Tounge:

 

As mentioned, if the FO doesn't bring up the flaps, just retract them manually till I release the update.

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Oki doki, just puzzled I didn't see this before. Up until the last couple of flights he retracted the flaps leaving them at 15 rather than leaving them in their landing position.

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I think some things are just a one time occurrence too, as was already mentioned. Last night for instance, when I called for takeoff flaps 5, I see the flap indicator moving past 5 and it kept going all the way to 40. I had to reset it back to 5. Wouldn't have been a very good takeoff with 40 degrees of flaps.   :wink:

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Sounds like the flaps movement check also performed during cold weather procedures but usually the flaps are then retracted again.

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Sounds like the flaps movement check also performed during cold weather procedures but usually the flaps are then retracted again.

 

That could be because I was in Halifax NS and it was pretty cold out and snowing. I didn't give it time to retract by itself. 

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Yep, next time it happens to you just allow the FO to start retracting the flaps which will happen a couple of seconds in the 40 position and you'll then be able to command your takeoff flaps position.

 

Flaps 40 might not be the most optional takeoff position as you already said :wink:

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Yep, next time it happens to you just allow the FO to start retracting the flaps which will happen a couple of seconds in the 40 position and you'll then be able to command your takeoff flaps position.

 

Flaps 40 might not be the most optional takeoff position as you already said :wink:

You were correct. Same thing happened this evening from Detroit in another icy snowstorm. Flaps went from 0-40 back to 0.  Found out that they could be set pre takeoff when at the runway to 5,   Thanks for the tip.   

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