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Simming frustrations, is it me?

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I just want to get my sim setup, without all kinds of programming,  with some nice goodies and everything I try is frustrating....

 

Running P3D v3:

Mindstar G1000....   after talking to their tech guys, it doesn't work with the carenado aircraft I like

RXP GNS530...    looks like I need to do a bunch of modding to get anything working right

FScommander...   can't even get the app to launch, all kinds of info in the docs about windows 10 permissions

Plan G....    Exports flight plans in the wrong format, haven't even tried to connect to sim yet

Half the add-ons out are for P3D v2.5, not v3

Can't update G1000 navdata in any of my aircraft     :(

 

With the little bit of tinkering I've already done, I get GPS load errors when I launch P3D now, and and error every time it closes.  I don't want to mess things up worse trying to get other bits working.

 

Is simming this labor intensive all the time, does it need to be??  Am I missing something??  Are there really no easy ways to do things in the sim world?  Should I go back to v2.5, use x plane instead??

 

Any input would be fantastic!!!

 

Thank you all so much!

 

 

 

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What I did when I got P3D was just to add a few essentials which are in my signature. Nothing fancy, almost no scenery except Ultimate Terrain for the areas I fly. Runs like a charm, FPS around 30, no stutters, no problems. I start it up, and fly all over with my Virtual Airline, and no problems to speak of. So different from the constant nightmares and mishaps  I lived though with FS9 and FSX where I was afraid to even move in my chair  while flying. 

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What I did when I got P3D was just to add a few essentials which are in my signature. Nothing fancy, almost no scenery except Ultimate Terrain for the areas I fly. Runs like a charm, FPS around 30, no stutters, no problems. I start it up, and fly all over with my Virtual Airline, and no problems to speak of. So different from the constant nightmares and mishaps  I lived though with FS9 and FSX where I was afraid to even move in my chair  while flying. 

 

This is slightly reassuring.  Although with the above said, I really can't even get a decent flight plan plugged in using the darned built in flight planner.  And I can't add one with most of my aircraft, except the carenado tbm 850.  Anything else and I just have to fly direct.   :(

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Sorry to say but the add-ons you are trying to use are all pretty old (not saying they are bad). Might have been a smart move to check whether these older add-ons actually work in P3Dv3 before migrating. If you use up-to-date stuff (like the GTN 750 for example) then P3Dv3 works like a charm with much less tweaking and fiddling around than FSX ever had.

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Sorry to say but the add-ons you are trying to use are all pretty old (not saying they are bad). Might have been a smart move to check whether these older add-ons actually work in P3Dv3 before migrating. If you use up-to-date stuff (like the GTN 750 for example) then P3Dv3 works like a charm with much less tweaking and fiddling around than FSX ever had.

 

A GTN750 would be swell.  Would I get this in an add-on aircraft or add it to one I have??  Where would I get it??   I need some education here, please accept my apologies.    

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A GTN750 would be swell.  Would I get this in an add-on aircraft or add it to one I have??  Where would I get it??   I need some education here, please accept my apologies.    

 

No need to apologize. As Bert has said, Flight1 sells the GTN750 for Prepar3D. It is a gauge which you can use in different add-ons. Some add-ons have GTN750 integration built-in, for others you can use it either as a pop-up gauge (not showing in the VC) or you need some tweaking to get it show in the VC. Bert has published some excellent GTN750 mods for a couple of add-ons.

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I'm sorry, what is a VC??

 

So, I have a handful of carenados, such as the malibu mirage, can I pull out the stock 530/430 and put in this GTN750??   I also have their jetprop malibu, tbm 850, cirrus, 208, 206.  I also have a couple A2A trainers.   

 

On the malibu mirage, the carenado site says:   Original Carenado GNS530 and GNS430 with Reality XP integration option (only for FSX).

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For fs commander try installing it somewhere other than "program files". All programs have permissions issues when installed there in win10 i find.

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For fs commander try installing it somewhere other than "program files". All programs have permissions issues when installed there in win10 i find.

 

Will it work if P3D is installed there?

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I'm sorry, what is a VC??

 

So, I have a handful of carenados, such as the malibu mirage, can I pull out the stock 530/430 and put in this GTN750??   I also have their jetprop malibu, tbm 850, cirrus, 208, 206.  I also have a couple A2A trainers.   

 

On the malibu mirage, the carenado site says:   Original Carenado GNS530 and GNS430 with Reality XP integration option (only for FSX).

 

VC = Virtual Cockpit.

 

Short answer to your question is:  No, unfortunately.

 

a2a offers GTN integration options for the C172, Cherokee, C182, and Comanche.

 

I would start there.

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A while back, I had FSX boxed, FSX-SE, P3D  v2 and X-Plane all loaded and set up.  It really became a nightmare to manage; I was spending more time installing add-ons and tweaking than flying.  When I installed a SSD and Windows 10, I decided to start over with just my original FSX.  I've installed all my original add-ons and spent several hundred dollars an new add-ons over the holidays.  And I've got to say, I've never had so much fun with Flight Simulator.  Everything is running smooth, I have very few if any CTDs, (thanks to the excellent guides on Avsim) and with one exception (Eaglesoft Citation X) everything is working perfectly. (No disrespect to the Citation, it's just a little bit more finicky than some of my other aircraft). The other day, I flew an approach into ImagineSim's KATL using A2A's Cessna 182, with Flight 1's GTN 750 and my jaw dropped, it was just so amazing!   I miss the days when I could look forward to a new version of FS from Microsoft, and I hopeful for a new flight simulator in 2016, but until then, I think I will stick with FSX and just have fun flying!

 

Mike

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VC = Virtual Cockpit.

 

Short answer to your question is:  No, unfortunately.

 

a2a offers GTN integration options for the C172, Cherokee, C182, and Comanche.

 

I would start there.

 

So, to summarize.  What you are telling me, Bert, is that if I prefer high performance singles AND the ability to use true route navigation/flight planning/SIDS/STARS....    My best route at this point would be the A2A Comanche and the Flight1 GTN750.  A2A offers the Flight1 integration with this model and it is compatible without a bunch of monkeying around....??   I hope I am following you.  

 

Now I just have to decide if $70 is worth it to use this with one model.  I really want to use it in my Carenado Malibu Mirage.  That would be perfect.  I love that plane and am super comfortable flying it but using direct to on the GPS gets boring.   Even the G1000 in the cirrus can't do a flight plan and if it could it wouldn't be able to use SIDS.  

 

Would I be able to use the GTN is any other models I have, say, that came with P3D??  Could using the GTN is my carenado stuff as a pop out be possible and have it load into the default GNS?  

 

In a perfect world I could drag the GTN off my screen onto my suface tablet and use it touch screen!!!  

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Hi Carguy

 

Just wanted to mention something related to your point about Plan G. I use this with P3D v3 and it works fine. When you create a flight plan and save it, it automatically saves it as a .plg file which FSX can't read. However, if you go into options you should find an Export section. Click on that and then select FSX Flight Plan format (.pln). This can then be read by FSX and P3D (they both use the same format). You had to this with FSX too so it's not unique to P3D.

 

It does also connect to P3D via simconnect or Pete Dowson's WideFS. I use the latter as it's just easier to set up.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Cheers,

Stu.

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Actually it's $115 (roughly) if you're going to buy the GTN and Comanche - GTN is incredible though - a lot of newer addons include GTN integration

 

Older planes - can be tricky. I might be able to get the GTN 750 in the mirage for you. Or Bert lol! You'd still need the 2d popup to use it fully though

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Hi Carguy

 

Just wanted to mention something related to your point about Plan G. I use this with P3D v3 and it works fine. When you create a flight plan and save it, it automatically saves it as a .plg file which FSX can't read. However, if you go into options you should find an Export section. Click on that and then select FSX Flight Plan format (.pln). This can then be read by FSX and P3D (they both use the same format). You had to this with FSX too so it's not unique to P3D.

 

It does also connect to P3D via simconnect or Pete Dowson's WideFS. I use the latter as it's just easier to set up.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Cheers,

Stu.

 

Great news Stu!!  Such an easy fix, I look forward to making this change.  Thank you!!

Actually it's $115 (roughly) if you're going to buy the GTN and Comanche - GTN is incredible though - a lot of newer addons include GTN integration

 

Older planes - can be tricky. I might be able to get the GTN 750 in the mirage for you. Or Bert lol! You'd still need the 2d popup to use it fully though

 

I was just counting the cost of the GTN, which I think is $70 for P3D, but yes, I'd have to add for the aircraft as well.  Seems the comanche is about as good as I'm going to get for plug and play GTN in a high (sort of) performance single.  

 

If you'd like to help with the malibu I'd be tickled.  I'd be alright using it as a pop out.  Hopefully it'll at least load the data into the stock GNS for using the map and viewing current leg data, etc. 

 

If anyone wants to venture into getting the GTN working wireless on my surface I have a kilt and I'm willing to dance a jig!!! 

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I think you would really like the Comanche.. based on your preferences.

 

And yes, you can use the gtn as a popup in other planes.

 

RealAir has some very nice planes about to come out in a p3d3 version!

 

Duke, Lancair.. also with native gtn integration.

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RealAir has some very nice planes about to come out in a p3d3 version!

 

Duke, Lancair.. also with native gtn integration.

Yep!!

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I also just noticed the alabeo saratoga that has GTN integration built in.  This isn't a mirage but it's getting there, lol.  

 

If I use the GTN as a pop out on my mirage, does the data input read out in the 530/430 that are in the 3d panel?

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I also just noticed the alabeo saratoga that has GTN integration built in.  This isn't a mirage but it's getting there, lol.  

 

If I use the GTN as a pop out on my mirage, does the data input read out in the 530/430 that are in the 3d panel?

 

No, it will not, and that is not a very satisfactory setup..

 

Mixing GPSs is never a good thing  :wink:

 

Look carefully at the panel layout of whatever airplane you end up buying.

 

For example, the a2a Comanche was modeled after a real airplane, complete with a

particular set of gauges, including a very basic autopilot..  It is authentic, but not very

user friendly - although you get used to it..

 

Alternately, you might get the a2a C182 which can be set up with a modern layout,

including HSI and BK autopilot..  more like you might expect..

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So, even as a pop out, not a great solution on the Mirage then....       :mad:

 

I read the avsim review on the alabeo saratoga, that one doesn't sound like a bad solution.  It'll only take the 750 but that's the one I was planning on picking up.  Think this one might suit me a bit better than the comanche?

 

I have the a2a C182, but it's a wee slow for what I typically like to fly.  It is a fine aircraft though for sure.   

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I do not have the Saratoga, but do have the F406 and it is very nice.

 

OR, wait for the RealAir Legacy - if you like fast and sporty  :smile:

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So far, things improving.  Bert and Ryan, you are both fantastic!!  I now have a fancy new GTN setup in about 5 aircraft.  A couple with factory integration and a couple with the help of Ryan.  

 

Tried some scenery out.  ORBX regions made my system crap in it's pants, so I think those are a no go unless I learn how to tweak more speed out of my system.  Running with orbx global and open lc alaska/ca the frames are acceptable.  It does look a bit better than vanilla too.  Sure wish I could run those regions though, they sure are pretty!!  But at 5-7 fps, no way.  This was in socal so it is dense though.   I can sustain 25-30 with just global though, and that is acceptable to me.  

 

I'm going to start up on PE and get to sharpening my skills.  A few smaller kinks left to work out, but nothing major at this point.  Using orbx is pretty simple, for the money it should be I suppose.  The GTN is amazing!!  Still need to sort out if I want to order up some saitek gear and how well that will integrate.  Still need to fiddle around to get my logitech 3d pro to not be so touchy (tips please!!).  Still need to get more comfortable looking around to gain visual awareness during VFR flight (top hat switch is choppy and fast).  Need to sort out how to drag avionics or panels over to my surface wirelessly so I can touch screen my GTN (haven't seen much on this yet).

 

So I have some work left to do, but I'm far less frustrated.  You guys have been a ton of help, and quite encouraging.  Until I sort out the last few bugs, I might say flying VFR in the sim is harder than RL.  But flying with a GTN is like cheating.  No tuning VORs, no looking for DME markers, just punch in where you want go and use GPS.  Heck, use the GPS for your waypoints, markers, it even overlays the chart.  Good lord.  I guess I'm a little glad I learned to IFR the old fashioned way, I can be tuning my nav2 for whatever vor or backup navaid I would need if the GTN failed.  

 

Good fun folks!!  I'm all ears for additional tips and tricks on my remaining bugs/tweaks.

 

Thanks again, you have all been great!!

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Happy it is working well for you!

 

I can see a faster PC in your future  :wub:

 

BTW, I have a GTN mod for the TBM (send me a PM with your email address)

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