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What extensions does P3D recognize? I've been using Aivlasoft's EFB, so this is new. I create a flight plan at Skyvector's website and then copy the route and load it up in Simbrief. I've tried downloading all the different flight plans and the only one that shows up is the FSX .pln, but then it's a completely different route and altitude setup. No matter what route I choose, P3D loads the .pln file as the same route every time. Skyvector has a "Send Plan to" feature, but it exports to ForeFlight, .flp, or .gpx.

 

Any other ideas for flight planning. I enjoyed Aivlasoft's EFB, but not $70 worth.

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Why not just copy the route from skyvector and paste it into EFB? You can then export from EFB to P3d or whatever.

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Because the full EFB license is $60 :sad:

 

Ah I misunderstood I thought you owned the program and were disappointed you'd spent the money.I take it you used the trial then. 

 

How about Plan G , have you given that a shot yet? It's free and an excellent program that has a moving map You can plan your route on that and save it in it's native format and also export it as a .pln

 

Edit: Skyvector works but they don't support flight sims and tell you that when you create a plan, thats why there is no sim formats because it's for real world.

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I should have been a bit more clear lol. I know Skyvector is for real world flights. I get the routes from there and copy/paste them to simbrief. Simbrief has a download feature for .pln, but when I load that in P3D, it's not even remotely close to the validated flight plan I made and saved as a .pln.

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Hi Folks,

Personally - I now use a combination of Alex's Little Navmap plus FltPlan.com to generate flight plans based on real world flights... Both are free... FltpPlan.com provides the real world aircraft performance and real world routes - Little Navmap takes that information and generates the necessary files needed for - in my case - P3D...

One of Little Navmap's best features is it can read your scenery.cfg and database all your installed airports - so when planning flights you can choose to graphically display only those improved airports you actually have installed on the included map - if so desired... It makes planning a flight so much easier - especially when you have a large number of improved airports such as ORBX Freeware and/or ORBX Regions...

If you happen to live in North America and have a tablet - FltPlan.com also has a full blown FREE tablet app called "FltPlan GO" (apple, android, windows) Electronic Flight Bag that includes your typical moving map software with connections to flight simulator (FSX/P3D/XP) and is the ONLY source in the world that I'm aware of that offers FREE geo-referenced approach plates and taxi diagrams...

Did I mention the FREE part - LOL ?

 

https://fltplan.com/

 

Little Navmap (displaying only airports I have Addon Scenery for)

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FltPlan GO on iPad

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FltPlan GO (Geo-Referenced Approach Plate)

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Regards,

Scott

 

 

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I use Little Navmap in combination  with the Flightaware.com IFR flight analyzer:

http://flightaware.com/statistics/ifr-route/

It's the lazy way of generating  a flight plan based on the most common flight plans between two airports. The only drawback is that your aircraft has to be both able and eligible  to fly the flight plan.

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Thanks, Scott for the tip re Little Navmap.  I have been using Fltplan and Fltplan Go and agree it is fantastic.  I will try out Little Navmap.  Would you be able to list out briefly the steps you would use for a short GA flight using Little Navmap?  For example, when you save the flight plan does it automatically appear in the P3D list of available flight plans?  And if you save it also as a Garmin Flight Plan file, does it appear in the GTN750 stored list (assuming you have a GTN750)?  Also, is there any link with AS16 and the flight plans listed in it?   Up to now, I have been entering the AS16 plan, then opening P3D and loading the GTN750 plan, then opening Fltplan Go, etc.  This takes time and having one program like Little Navmap that would do several steps would be great.  Thanks for your help and advice.

Mike Hamilton

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Hi Mike,

Sure - doesn't really consolidate much - as I still use both apps...

First I look at the global weather picture on the NOAA AWC Website - the site has really improved over the years and is very useful now - displays METAR/WINDS/RADAR so I can easily/quickly determine what kind of weather I want to fly in...

http://www.aviationweather.gov/

Then start Little Navmap (LNM) - so I can easily pick two airports that have been improved in my sim - as I don't do "default" airports...

When two airports are chosen - I plug them into Fltplan web site - I actually use their real world profiles for fuel burn so I select the appropriate aircraft (FltPlan seems to have a performance profile for just about every GA Aircraft and Biz Jet ever made) - then the screen comes up with routing - normally I looks for "Last Approved ATC Routing" and choose that for added realism - if nothing seems appropriate I'll look at other routing sources - then save the flight plan... I now know approximately how long it should take with given weather - how much fuel I need for my chosen aircraft  - how high I am flying - and how I'm getting from point A to point B... With the Flight Plan saved on the website - I can now load it on my tablet and FltPlan GO... Finally - I copy the routing to the windows clipboard...

Back to LNM - it has the ability to "Import Flight Plan from Clipboard" - I do that - now the flight plan is loaded...  LNM has a vertical profile window - so I check ground clearance... LNM has complete airport diagrams if you zoom in far enough with all the parking illustrated - when you save - LNM it prompts you to pick a departure spot - I do and save... The saved Flight Plan is full FSX/P3D format so I can now load it into AS16/RC4/P3D at will...

I close the Fltplan website - close LNM - then launch the Fltplan GO app to import my Flight Plan and P3D to navigate off my tablet...

I'm pretty sure LNM has an option to save for the GTN - never used it though as the GTN has Airways built into the database which makes loading a Flight Plan a breeze - so I just do that manually...

LNM is still a work in progress - hopefully we'll see some aeronautical charts added... Alex already mentioned that he has the facilities to display airspaces and such - just not enabled yet (currently VOR, NDB, AIRWAYS, JETWAYS, and INTERSECTIONS are included) - so it seems there are more good things on the horizon - it's obviously a labor of love and it's very polished now...

One issue that pops up with LNM is I believe the NAVDATA is taken from the original FSX/P3D database - so when things change there are unknown waypoints from time to time... Following Alex's progress on FSDeveloper - he plans on including updatable NAVDATA in the next release...

Hope that helps...

Regards,
Scott

 

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38 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Back to LNM - it has the ability to "Import Flight Plan from Clipboard" - I do that - now the flight plan is loaded...  LNM has a vertical profile window - so I check ground clearance... LNM has complete airport diagrams if you zoom in far enough with all the parking illustrated - when you save - LNM it prompts you to pick a departure spot - I do and save... The saved Flight Plan is full FSX/P3D format so I can now load it into AS16/RC4/P3D at will...

o.O  I have to give this a try.  I often sit at my sim thinking about how picking a parking spot from a list is so stupid.  You have no idea where they are, mostly, and just take a guess.  P3D should have it built in with a map of the airport and parking spots...you type in an airport, see a map, click your parking spot, done and done.  That's how it should be.

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15 hours ago, mhamilto said:

Thanks, Scott for the tip re Little Navmap.  I have been using Fltplan and Fltplan Go and agree it is fantastic.  I will try out Little Navmap.  Would you be able to list out briefly the steps you would use for a short GA flight using Little Navmap?  For example, when you save the flight plan does it automatically appear in the P3D list of available flight plans?  And if you save it also as a Garmin Flight Plan file, does it appear in the GTN750 stored list (assuming you have a GTN750)?  Also, is there any link with AS16 and the flight plans listed in it?   Up to now, I have been entering the AS16 plan, then opening P3D and loading the GTN750 plan, then opening Fltplan Go, etc.  This takes time and having one program like Little Navmap that would do several steps would be great.  Thanks for your help and advice.

Mike Hamilton

Hi Gregg,

LOL - yep - same deal - it's a slick little tool and officially retired my FSBuild after many years of dedicated service...

Regards,
Scott 

 

 

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Thanks Scott.. just wanted you to know you are helping more than the others in this thread.  Your procedures for setting up a flight are inspiring and I am looking forward to trying out this process.  I know we both enjoy the recent ORBX sceneries in New England and I am SO looking forward to checking out Bar Harbor and Block Island when the warm weather returns for this spring season. Like you, I have used Ernie's FSBuild for over a decade now and will not know how to act if it is "retired"  :biggrin:

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1 hour ago, Gregg_Seipp said:

o.O  I have to give this a try.  I often sit at my sim thinking about how picking a parking spot from a list is so stupid.  You have no idea where they are, mostly, and just take a guess.  P3D should have it built in with a map of the airport and parking spots...you type in an airport, see a map, click your parking spot, done and done.  That's how it should be.

Gregg,

not sure if you know already but you can right click on the center of a parking spot in the map and select it for departure (including the whole airport if no departure is set or the flight plan is empty).

No need to use the list (I know you're referring to the stupid list in P3D or FSX, but I have one too :smile: ).

Alex

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Hi Vincent,

Thanks for the very kind words... Yeah - I try to plan and fly in P3D - as if I were doing it for real...

I've tried a few flight planners over the years but this is the longest I haven't used FSBuild (about a month) - I did invest in creating a bunch of custom profiles in FSBuild for the aircraft I fly... At this point though - with LNM and the great features it includes - I don't see myself going back - LOL - big step for me...

Yeah - as I've mentioned else ware - following how the ORBX Freeware guys have been populating airports - New England looks as if it's been hit by a shotgun blast lately - my money is on a New England Region as their next regional release - which will be OK by me... Hope to see you out there...

:wink:

Regards,
Scott

 

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Hi Folks,

One final thought - in all fairness to Alex - his LNM is a full featured moving map navigation tool as well - so if you have an extra monitor or a spare PC I'm sure you could use it that way as well... I specifically needed a tablet app for my needs and I really like geo-referenced approach plates which tie me to FltPlan GO - hence some extra work required and two apps...

Regards,
Scott

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28 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

One final thought - in all fairness to Alex - his LNM is a full featured moving map navigation tool as well - so if you have an extra monitor or a spare PC I'm sure you could use it that way as well... I specifically needed a tablet app for my needs and I really like geo-referenced approach plates which tie me to FltPlan GO - hence some extra work required and two apps...

Regards,
Scott

Thanks Scott and a SUPER !!!  thanks to Alex for his project contributions to our hobby.  Looking forward to installing his LNM on my client PC.  I will also use the Moving Map feature vs the FltPlanGO to simplify things a bit.  I currently pull up all my charts (approach plates, etc)  via my access to AOPA and the services they provide members.

BTW, highly recommend AOPA and their services to any lover of aviation whether real world or simulation or both ! :biggrin:

https://www.aopa.org/

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Thank you, Scott, for your excellent summary on how to setup your planning before flight.  I tried LMN last night and it is great.  I will certainly use your summary to better effect now.  I did find LNM has a save plan as gfp option (garmin file I think) , that allows one to save the LMN plan into the directory where your Flight1 GTN is installed, but you have to point it there.  Then you can import this plan into the GTN750:  once you are at the Flight Plan Catalog in the 750, you click on Menu again and click import to load the saved file in.  It works yet I agree with you it is about just as easy to enter directly into the 750 and this allows you to check routing as you go.  Isn't FltPlan Go great?  No need for Foreflight, you get FREE aircraft following on map and approach chart, and you can easily jump to destination airport info, charts, procedures, etc.  I can't believe how good this is.  Cant wait for P3D 64 bit.   Things in flight simming can only get better with this technology.  I learned to fly years ago on gauges and floats.  How different it must be for the younger people now with all these tools.  Still doesnt give you seat of the pants but helps with the understanding of what is going on and how to navigate, etc.  Hope to meet you and say thank you personally for your advice at FlightSimCon in June.  Cheers,

Mike Hamilton

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Thanks but I tried Fltplan and Fltplan Go and after messing with fltplan site trying to set up a simple route and them asking for more info than I really need to know or know how to find just to put one aircraft on the list (they require you to make a list of aircraft and everything about that aircraft before you can proceed) and not getting it correct for half an hour or so I gave up and decided this just might be a bit to involved for fun. 

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Hi Mike,

Happy to help... I'll give that GTN save a try as well - just so I'm aware of how it works... It does kind of emulate real world practices today - as there are now a bunch of ways to load a Flight Plan off your tablet into either the GTN or GNS for navigation... I don't know anyone that doesn't fly without a tablet EFB of some sort today... I've had my ticket around 15 years and while I learned with a GPS in the cockpit - the first plane I really flew didn't have it... It had a Loran C without a moving map - yeah - while I can navigate without - the moving map just adds a whole new layer of comfort to the navigation picture... Enjoy it...

Hi Folks,

Yeah - FltPlan can take a little work to setup initially for the uninitiated... The overall concept is - you need to register for a free user account - then go down to [settings] [edit aircraft list] - there you have 10 slots to define aircraft - you can pick from the hundreds of performance profiles when you define the aircraft - I usually just use the official ATC type for the registrations so I see the type displayed when choosing an aircraft for a flight plan...

 

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The relatively new twist is that for IFR RNAV Flight Plans - the FAA requires aircraft to file ICAO data (communication, navigation, safety equipment information) so you need to just walk through the screens and populate the required fields... As you can see in my image - I've only done that for some of the aircraft I currently fly...

Once the profile is created - it's pretty straight forward - after putting in a departure and destination - you're presented with a screen that contains routing - 90% of the time I just pick off this list... If not - I'll use something else like Little Navmap or Sky Vector to create my own custom route and then plug it in on FltPlan...

 

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I've used FltPlan.com for years - even before they had a tablet app - if anyone needs help doing the initial setup - I'll gladly try and walk you through it...

Regards,
Scott

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