Sorry guys. Just could not let this election year rhetoric pass.....  It's nice to be passionate and brand loyal, but taking both direct and indirect digs at another product, most lacking accuracy, is normally not productive. 

haha, very true, what is great about a forum is that folks can chime in with both sides of the story. thanks for taking the time to add your detailed responses.

cheers

-andy crosby

haha, very true, what is great about a forum is that folks can chime in with both sides of the story. thanks for taking the time to add your detailed responses.

cheers

-andy crosby

Andy. What is important is that what each of us have in use actually works satisfactorily. What I want is what I got when I flew today.

 

I prepared my flight plan at FltPlan.com, which is a real-world flight planning and aviation site. What I want most from that is an accurate winds aloft and temperature forecast. What I want most from my simulator weather engine is winds and temps aloft that closely match the real world, understanding that the real world winds and temps aloft forecast in that flight plan is a forecast. A simulator weather engine uses real world winds and temps aloft reports. Reports and forecasts will seldom if ever match exactly.

 

Then I want my weather engine to reproduce as closely as possible the real world flying conditions such as cloud coverage, cloud types, precipitation, and visibility.

 

When I can complete a flight as I did today where my flight time, fuel burn, and wx experience compare closely to the RW flight plan, and the weather along the route matches the live weather map on FltPlan.Com on my ipad, then I am more than satisfied. That is exactly what I am seeking.

 

Of further note is that with the age of FSX many of the FSX COM frequencies are outdated, including many ATIS frequencies. Then there are airports with AWOS instead of ATIS. So it is also nice to look to real world weather for surface winds and pressure so that I can perceive the correct active runway and my altimeter setting matches what my weather engine is giving me.

 

Sorry guys. Just could not let this election year rhetoric pass.....  It's nice to be passionate and brand loyal, but taking both direct and indirect digs at another product, most lacking accuracy, is normally not productive.  I have nothing against ASN and myself will draw no comparisons.  What I write below I write to FSGRW, not against ASN as I have no reason to do so. 

 

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and showing "zero" respect for an experienced member is also not productive. This is one of the reasons why I rather not post on this forum anymore. Sometimes it's unproductive. :wink:

From today's flight, St Louis to Dallas Love Field.  Textures REX E+ OD, engine FS Real Global Weather.  Click to view larger image.  See you at the Blues vs Stars NHL playoff game tonight!

 

If you like FSGRW, and is working well for you, then congrats!

 

A full demo will allow the user to evaluate the program's value.

 

Maybe what we need is a poll?

If you like FSGRW, and is working well for you, then congrats!

 

A full demo will allow the user to evaluate the program's value.

 

Maybe what we need is a poll?

 

Do not disagree at all with the first two.  Poll? So how will the responses be vetted to include only those respondents who can validate they have true experience with both? Otherwise its just a function of the population of those who have purchased one vs the other.  

 

Again, I have no strong preference of one vs the other, other than I purchased and use FSGRW and it does work extremely well on my systems, old and new, for how and where I fly.  What I do have a strong preference for is fairness and balance in comparisons.  That and that alone.

Have no idea what FP is, can you explain?

 

FP    flight plan  ASN auto loads  the flight  plan into the map  asn  for  me  all the way  due  to the weather radar  function in pmdg  aircraft

Thanks Pete. Where does the flight plan originate?

Thanks Pete. Where does the flight plan originate?

 

When a flight plan is  loaded  into the sim  depending  on what flight planner  you use   asn will auto detect this  and  load the flight  plan

Poll? So how will the responses be vetted to include only those respondents who can validate they have true experience with both? Otherwise its just a function of the population of those who have purchased one vs the other.

If a demo is available, then anyone can try both.

 

Both of these add-ons are old and have been updated.

 

FSGRW received an AVSIM Gold Star award years ago. It's the only payware WG available for XP and as you have shown with the right clouds in FSX you can get some nice results.

 

ASN has been around for ever and has a strong following.

 

I guess that one can deduce which one will win the popularity contest.

and showing "zero" respect for an experienced member is also not productive. This is one of the reasons why I rather not post on this forum anymore. Sometimes it's unproductive. :wink:

Jose, With all due respect, I do not see where Frank's post was disrespectful. You stated what you like about ASN and don't like about FSGRW as experienced on your system. Frank stated what he experienced with FSGRW on his system. Neither of you are wrong. You prefer ASN for your reasons based on your experience and Frank prefers FSGRW for others based on his. Both of you provided much detail and I thank you for this.

 

The only reason I am chiming in here is I find both of your posts very informative and productive. I don't want either of you to misinterpret the other, get heated, and stop posting.

 

Ted

When a flight plan is  loaded  into the sim  depending  on what flight planner  you use   asn will auto detect this  and  load the flight  plan

 

Thanks Pete. I use FltPlan.com (real world not sim) for my flight planning.  To use a resulting flight plan in FSX I have to use a workaround that involves entering the flight plan into an RXP GPS, then using RXP to export the plan to FSX format, then load it into FSX.  Of course if I am then flying an airplane with a F1 GTN GPS I have to enter a matching plan into it.  Sounds like a lot, but the vast majority of my flights are repeat flights or small variations, so most in mirrored in stored routes at FltPlan, routes stored in both RXP and GTN gauges, and saved FSX *.flt plans. So its actually not much work at all now that it is all established. Most of what I use now is based on what I stored from my efforts with RXP in earlier years.

 

That RW basis, plus an accurate sim weather engine combines for highly realistic sim experience, especially so as the flight plan being RW is based on RW winds and temps and when that is matched in the sim produces accurate flight times and fuel burn.  Makes it all more enjoyable.

 

 

I guess that one can deduce which one will win the popularity contest.

 

Sigh. Oh my!