December 16, 20169 yr That's why I sold one of my 1080's it was useless for Prepared in Sli. Before the flickering problem I did see about a 30% increase though Angus Rowlands: i7 8700 RTX Asus Strix 2080, 16 GB RAM
December 17, 20169 yr I made a mistake and used DDU. I don't normally flail about trying to fix a system like that, but I tried DDU even though I did custom clean install with the latest driver. Now I can't boot. I knew I needed to rebuild Windblows so wasn't too careful, but that was stupid. I'm not even going to bother with safe mode (using a bluetooth keyboard and don't know where my old usb keyboard is so it makes that difficult). Disclaimer: [email protected] on Asus Maximus X Formula, G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4x8GB 4266/17 XMP, EVGA 2080 ti Kingpin (8400/2160Mhz), Samsung 960 EVO 250GB PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD , 28TB HDD total - 4TB+ photoscenery, Romex Software PrimoCache RAM and SSD cache (must have!), 3x1080p 30" monitors, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, Pimax 4k & BE HMDs, Samsung Gear VR '17, Homdio v1, Cardboard, custom loop 2x 360x64ML Rads, Thermaltake View 71, VRM watercool, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut CPU (naked die), Fujipoly / ModRight Ultra Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad on MB VRM. 8x Corsair ML120 (slight positive pressure). 🙂
December 17, 20169 yr I made a mistake and used DDU. I use DDU frequently, no issues, just make sure you have the latest version and select the option to run it in Safe Mode. Cheers, Rob. I am unable to get into SAFE MODE in the usual way - appears to be an idiosyncrasy with the UEFI BIOS. I'm not aware of any EFI/BIOS option that would prevent a PC from booting into Safe Mode? Just make sure you execute DDU using "Run As Administrator". Also the latest download of DDU, you first must Unzip it, then you run the EXE which will again extract that "actual" DDU file you want to use (that file name is "Display Driver Uninstaller.exe" this is the executable your "Run As Admin" ... I believe current DDU version is 17.0.4.0. Cheers, Rob.
December 17, 20169 yr select the option to run it in Safe Mode I didn't pay very close attention. I ordered new hard drive and keyboard from PrimeNow to get here between 8am and 10am to start off the holiday break right. Now to find good instructions for installing a clean copy of Windows. Hrmnn, I'm getting pretty rusty at this stuff. My big hope is to get things up and running again with this cranky old system (3770k & 780 sli), talk spouse into oculus rift for Xmas, and hope I can get P3D in VR good enough to not have to ask for a 1080 as an early birthday present. Disclaimer: [email protected] on Asus Maximus X Formula, G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4x8GB 4266/17 XMP, EVGA 2080 ti Kingpin (8400/2160Mhz), Samsung 960 EVO 250GB PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD , 28TB HDD total - 4TB+ photoscenery, Romex Software PrimoCache RAM and SSD cache (must have!), 3x1080p 30" monitors, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, Pimax 4k & BE HMDs, Samsung Gear VR '17, Homdio v1, Cardboard, custom loop 2x 360x64ML Rads, Thermaltake View 71, VRM watercool, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut CPU (naked die), Fujipoly / ModRight Ultra Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad on MB VRM. 8x Corsair ML120 (slight positive pressure). 🙂
December 17, 20169 yr Just make sure you execute DDU using "Run As Administrator". Also the latest download of DDU, you first must Unzip it, then you run the EXE which will again extract that "actual" DDU file you want to use (that file name is "Display Driver Uninstaller.exe" this is the executable your "Run As Admin" ... I believe current DDU version is 17.0.4.0. Hi Rob, Okay, I'll bear that in mind if or when I decide to try going back to an earlier driver. Thanks. Frankly I feel no incentive right now as I'm, as they say, having a blast despite that irritating flickering cropping up from time to time. Not worth stressing. In some ways it's no worse than, for example, those intermittent texture LOD loading issues seen as you fly through, say, a detailed 3rd party mountainscape. Call me deluded, if you like, but I still have faith NVIDIA will eventually work out the flickering issue as their drivers evolve. After all, we did get correctly functioning SLI.... eventually! "I'm not aware of any EFI/BIOS option that would prevent a PC from booting into Safe Mode?" Assuming you are right, have you tried getting into SAFE MODE successfully during System Boot? If so then how do you manage it? How would you troubleshoot a normal boot into Windows in the event it was being prevented? Repeated pressing of F8 (USB Keyboard) doesn't work for me which I've always regarded as a being a bit concerning. However, as I stated in an earlier post, you do have the option of selecting Safe boot in MsConfig and then Restart the System. However, to accomplish this, Windows needs to be running in the first place. I haven't tried that, as yet - thought I would leave it until a 'my back was against the wall' situation arises Regards, Mike
December 17, 20169 yr Call me deluded, if you like, but I still have faith NVIDIA will eventually work out the flickering issue as their drivers evolve Maybe they will maybe they won't nobody really knows, I've worked my way around the problem as I don't want to be waiting months (or even years) and NOT being able to use newer drivers for other sims/games that I enjoy that "require" the latest drivers is an issue for me. If your main PC is only used for P3D, then you can stick with a single "working" older drivers. Cheers, Rob.
December 17, 20169 yr NOT being able to use newer drivers for other sims/games that I enjoy that "require" the latest drivers is an issue for me. That's precisely why I prefer to keep abreast of graphic driver evolution. The flickering issues in P3D are an irritant, hopefully temporary, but not sufficient to get in the way of my enjoyment. We should all keep needling NVIDIA until we wear down their resistance. Oh BTW, can you spare a moment to comment further on the SAFE MODE 'problem' (see my second para in post #95). It would be reassuring to know that I have a reliable way of cold booting into SAFE MODE under Windows 7 64bit Pro with an ASUS Rampage V Extreme MoBo should the need ever arise in the future. Thanks. Regards, Mike
December 18, 20169 yr It's really annoying that Battlefield 1 actually locks you out from playing the game, if you aren't using a specified driver version or newer. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
December 18, 20169 yr Moderator Just tried out the 376.33 and it seems fine in SLI. Michael Moe I still get flashing where there's any smoke or dust clouds. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
December 18, 20169 yr I still get flashing where there's any smoke or dust clouds. Vic Hmm okay i havent noticed them. Do you need to have maximum covering? EDIT : ahh i get it. You meen from spray. i will look outside Thanks Michael Moe Michael Moe
December 19, 20169 yr What a complete joke by nvidia People like myself spend thousands on sli And we cant even get support. And its not just with p3d
December 19, 20169 yr That's why I sold one of my 1080's it was useless for Prepared in Sli. Before the flickering problem I did see about a 30% increase though I also gain at least 30% in SLI from 373.06/376.33 and in 4K my single GTX970SC is really on hard work so i need to be a little conservative with shadows when i have to use one card (undocking CDUII for my NGX) But otherwise SLI is really helpful Michael Moe Michael Moe
December 19, 20169 yr What a complete joke by nvidia It really is. Especially when you consider they've had 12 years to perfect it. From the outside looking in, SLI appears to be an afterthought for Nvidia.
December 19, 20169 yr It would be reassuring to know that I have a reliable way of cold booting into SAFE MODE under Windows 7 64bit Pro with an ASUS Rampage V Extreme MoBo should the need ever arise in the future. Perhaps this query is being considered as being off topic and accounts for the lack of response? If this is the case, then I apologise. However, I still believe it would be helpful to round this one off for future reference or, indeed, when a solution is found. It appears that this is a known issue and I am posting a link to an article describing the problem as applying to Windows 10. Also it's interesting to note that, while not mentioned specifically in the article, my experience has demonstrated that this is also exhibited in Windows 7. In particular, I refer you to section 4. Use F8 or Shift + F8 (doesn't work when using UEFI BIOS & SSDs). This, presumably, explains my difficulty since both conditions apply and system booting time is relatively quick, although probably not as fast as Windows 10. http://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10 There have been a few occasions in the past when I have managed to access 'Recovery Mode' during cold boot only to find that my USB keyboard doesn't work. Instead I have to hook up a PS2 keyboard as a temporary solution. Without it, the countdown proceeds and I have to allow the Recovery program to proceed to completion....without finding anything to fix, of course The UEFI BIOS does pause boot operations for a few seconds allowing an F2 keypress to get into the BIOS setup. Pity it doesn't offer additional options to permit a SAFE MODE boot. Is the requirement for cold booting into SAFE MODE no longer considered important, or indeed, necessary? I am aware Windows 10 has other recovery options available to the user. Are these destructive in any way? Under Windows XP there were many occasions when I would have been stumped without it. Mike
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