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It's Lonely at FL850

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I bet you are lonely up there.  :smile:  Great shots.  How did that go ...  SR-72 pilot requesting 50,000 feet.  Permission granted by ATC.  Pilot's reply, "Roger, descending to 50,000 feet."

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I bet you are lonely up there.  :smile:  Great shots.  How did that go ...  SR-72 pilot requesting 50,000 feet.  Permission granted by ATC.  Pilot's reply, "Roger, descending to 50,000 feet."

I once had an instructor who told the class he heard a similar call  requesting FL600 and ATC laughed and replied You're cleared if you can get that high. Then the pilot responded with leaving FL800 for FL600.

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Hi Keith,

"I once had an instructor who told the class he heard a similar call  requesting FL600 and ATC laughed and replied You're cleared if you can get that high. Then the pilot responded with leaving FL800 for FL600."   Yes, not the usual conversation with ATC.  :smile:

 

Bill

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This high altitude topic made me think of something comical but sad.  A few years back there was a U2 operating VFR on top in ZLA - above FL600 (los angeles center airspace), ATC put the altitude into the flight progress strip as OTP (which is standard entry for VFR on Top) and it crashed ERAM (it's a computer system that basically works with ATC radar and the NAS).  ZLA was ground stopped for some time (meaning no traffic in the airspace at all).

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Thanks for all the comments! 

I once had an instructor who told the class he heard a similar call  requesting FL600 and ATC laughed and replied You're cleared if you can get that high. Then the pilot responded with leaving FL800 for FL600.

That reminds me of a joke that Rod Machado told a while back: https://youtu.be/fQUg9VmPBBE?t=6m31s

WOW, are those the Rocky Mountains?

Sierra Nevada mountains, that lake in the second shot is Mono Lake

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Similarly there was a conversation between an RAF Lightning pilot (mach 2 interceptor made by English Electric) and ATC. The controller asked the pilot if he could make flight level 350 by the coast. The Lightning pilot complied with the instruction and the controller radioed back after watching the numbers on the scope... "Actually, I meant by the French coast, not the English coast...."

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Gem of a post from the Concorde thread on pprune:

 

"Ancient tale.

There's this SR-71 Blackbird stooging around Cuba on a top-secret mission, at FL500+ and Mach 2+.... when they get a call requesting them to change heading "because of traffic at your altitude".
Traffic at THEIR altitude ??
Anyway, they comply, and shortly, yes, there's an Air France Concorde out of Caracas (Air France flew there in the early days) slowly sailing across their flight path.

Just imagine... two guys in bonedomes and full pressure suits, in a cramped cockpit, watching something like a hundred people in shirt sleeves or summer dresses, sipping their champagne and maybe just starting on their smoked salmon hors d'oeuvres, flying at their altitude and nearly their speed...."

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Will,

 

Nice shots but I wonder what your speed was. Not above Mach 0.99 I trust otherwise the residents below will be highly unamused. :wink:

 

As a Concorde pilot I always comply with the rules and never break the sound barrier over populated areas. One route I often fly is Seattle down to LA. But 20nm+ off the coast to comply with the FAA. :smile:

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Will,

 

Nice shots but I wonder what your speed was. Not above Mach 0.99 I trust otherwise the residents below will be highly unamused. :wink:

 

As a Concorde pilot I always comply with the rules and never break the sound barrier over populated areas. One route I often fly is Seattle down to LA. But 20nm+ off the coast to comply with the FAA. :smile:

Well, I was probably touching mach 3 or so at this point. (oops) I know the sled flies a fair bit higher than the Concorde, but I am curious about how it would sound and feel on the ground when something that fast flies over. I'll just tell myself that modern car and house windows are strong enough that I won't be given a phone number to call when I land. :P

 

It's also a shame that planes like the Concorde could never cruise properly over land, otherwise we might not have had to retire all of them..

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Will,

 

Mach 3??? :shok:  Sorry sir, your licence is revoked. :lol:

 

If you're curious about how loud that sonic boom was have a listen to this on Youtube.

 

Loud eh? hate to think how loud yours was.

 

Yes, such a shame she was retired from service but negating that sonic boom was just too difficult.

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Sounds like a hundred shotguns going off!

In my defense, according to the sonic booms article on Wikipedia the Blackbird at full speed has a shockwave with less than half the energy of the Concorde(assuming it's up at FL800), and apparently the shock wave gets smaller as a plane goes faster. So hopefully no broken windows and ruptured eardrums :wink:

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