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Just upgraded to a GTX 1070...

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From a GTX 970...

So my system is now i7 4790k 4.4Ghz, GTX 1070, 16GB RAM.  I've only swapped out the graphics card and had a couple of hours last night to set it up.  I find in P3D, I previously used FSX Steam edition anything less than 4xSSAA produces terrible shimmering, something which really annoys me.  On my 970 with 4xSSAA the GPU load would quickly reach 100%.  I'm hoping the extra VRAM gives me a bit more breathing room.

Anyone else performed a similar upgrade and what have been the results?

Cheers
Sid

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I'm hoping to move from a 1060 3GB to a 1080 8GB, so am interested in what sort of performance upgrade to expect too.

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Hi Sid

I'm considering the exact same move as you. Perhaps you can feed back your findings on this thread so I can build a case for upgrade and dazzle the 'Mrs' with science thus securing a 1070 for my birthday in a couple of weeks.

Derek

 

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19 minutes ago, sidfadc said:

From a GTX 970...

So my system is now i7 4790k 4.4Ghz, GTX 1070, 16GB RAM.  I've only swapped out the graphics card and had a couple of hours last night to set it up.  I find in P3D, I previously used FSX Steam edition anything less than 4xSSAA produces terrible shimmering, something which really annoys me.  On my 970 with 4xSSAA the GPU load would quickly reach 100%.  I'm hoping the extra VRAM gives me a bit more breathing room.

Anyone else performed a similar upgrade and what have been the results?

Cheers
Sid

With regards to shimmering (I've had this issue too and it is indeed quite annoying) try turning off HDR lighting.  For some reason with that on it makes the shimmering much worse.  Even at 4x SSAA it would be bad.

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14 minutes ago, Killieboy64 said:

Hi Sid

I'm considering the exact same move as you. Perhaps you can feed back your findings on this thread so I can build a case for upgrade and dazzle the 'Mrs' with science thus securing a 1070 for my birthday in a couple of weeks.

Derek

 

Yea will do matey.  I only have the A2A Comanche in P3Dv4.  I'm waiting for the 737 NGX or Fslabs A320 to really stress test the card, unfortunately both these purchases were on FSX so need to buy again.

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15 minutes ago, sfgiants13 said:

With regards to shimmering (I've had this issue too and it is indeed quite annoying) try turning off HDR lighting.  For some reason with that on it makes the shimmering much worse.  Even at 4x SSAA it would be bad.

Thanks for that, the shimmering on anything less than 4xSSAA is pretty bad in P3D but of course this comes with a performance penalty, hence the upgrade to a 1070.  The card cost me £379.99 which was hard to get past the missus in the first place lol.  I didn't have the heart to tell her how much a 1080 or higher was.

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4 minutes ago, sidfadc said:

Thanks for that, the shimmering on anything less than 4xSSAA is pretty bad in P3D but of course this comes with a performance penalty, hence the upgrade to a 1070.  The card cost me £379.99 which was hard to get past the missus in the first place lol.  I didn't have the heart to tell her how much a 1080 or higher was.

I'm on a 1060 as well and am curious as to what type of performance upgrade I would get with a 1070 or 1080.  Honestly it's probably not worth the cost because I run mid to high settings and it does fine minus the shimmering and jaggies on the further away airport markings like on taxiways.  It's still much better than V3 though.

 

 I just bought the PMDG 777 and that was hard enough to get the wife to agree to.  She'd probably kill me in my sleep if I went out and got a 1080.:laugh:

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1 minute ago, sfgiants13 said:

 I just bought the PMDG 777 and that was hard enough to get the wife to agree to.  She'd probably kill me in my sleep if I went out and got a 1080.:laugh:

The joys of being single.  lol

 

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bs

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25 minutes ago, sfgiants13 said:

I'm on a 1060 as well and am curious as to what type of performance upgrade I would get with a 1070 or 1080.  Honestly it's probably not worth the cost because I run mid to high settings and it does fine minus the shimmering and jaggies on the further away airport markings like on taxiways.  It's still much better than V3 though.

 

 I just bought the PMDG 777 and that was hard enough to get the wife to agree to.  She'd probably kill me in my sleep if I went out and got a 1080.:laugh:

I'm not recommending this but I've made many upgrades to my PC over many years and it's been between me and my PC.  The only danger comes when the delivery person appears and I'm not there.  I have had things delivered to the office in the past as it is so much easier than hearing the inevitable, "why do you need that?"

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Just to be clear in my original post I said I'm upgrading from a 4GB 970 (well 3.5 really) to an 8GB 1070.  I'll report my experience as I begin to use it more.

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3 hours ago, sidfadc said:

...Fslabs A320 .. both these purchases were on FSX so need to buy again.

I suggest you go to the FSLabs site today or very soon so you can take advantage of the $40 upgrade price for the P3D license. That will end once the v4 version is released, which is due in the next few weeks. 

Don't miss out! 

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I also am thinking of moving from a GTX 970 to a 1070 so I will watch this thread with interest.

 

Thanks, 

Darcy

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I am using a 1070 since quite a while. Unfortunately, it seems to be too weak when it comes to Dynamic Lighting / 4xSSAA / Landing Lights ON / PMDG747 ... that's my experience.

With HDR ON, shimmering is bad with less than 4xSSAA. Only comprise I found is HDR OFF / 4x or 8x MSAA. 

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Even an overclocked 1080 Ti is too weak for 4xSSAA and Dynamic Lights, I've discovered. Not sure what kind of mutant implementation they've worked in with those dynamic lights but when one, single light source can bring one of the fastest graphics cards on the market to its knees, just because of some supersampling, then there's something wrong. I've found the other AA steps below work a lot better but I also get a lot of weird shimmer on vegetation when in the air, almost looks like a heat shimmer on bushes especially, which can only be mitigated by 4xSSAA and above. Else I'd definitely just use 8xMSAA + MFAA.

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Am also watching this thread with interest as have a GTX 970 and was thinking about going the 1070 route, I wonder why AA takes such a performance hit, is this a DX11 thing?

 

 

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3 hours ago, sfgiants13 said:

I'm on a 1060 as well and am curious as to what type of performance upgrade I would get with a 1070 or 1080.  Honestly it's probably not worth the cost because I run mid to high settings and it does fine minus the shimmering and jaggies on the further away airport markings like on taxiways.  It's still much better than V3 though.

 

 I just bought the PMDG 777 and that was hard enough to get the wife to agree to.  She'd probably kill me in my sleep if I went out and got a 1080.:laugh:

I am on a 1060 with 6g and getting good performance in V4. I found its all in the settings. At this point i am going to wait and not upgrade to a 1080ti as I don't feel the performance gain is worth the price. What I did was set my 40" 4k  tv to 30 hz and then set NVI to locked frames at 20 then in the simulator run vsync on with unlimited frames, 4xSSAA. This has given me smooth performance and crystal clear visuals. Even in heavy clouded conditions I don't see the frames dropping. When ORBX starts releasing there airports then we will see if we need to do a upgrade or not.

I locked my frames at 20 in NVI as that was the average frames I was getting with the 1060.  I am using Southern Cal LA basin area for all my testing. Josh

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When I replaced my 2 970s in SLI with 1 1070 I wasn't happy with the performance but got all of it back and more when I added another 1070.

Regards
bs

 

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5 hours ago, ricka47 said:

I'm not recommending this but I've made many upgrades to my PC over many years and it's been between me and my PC.  The only danger comes when the delivery person appears and I'm not there.  I have had things delivered to the office in the past as it is so much easier than hearing the inevitable, "why do you need that?"

Haha, a job delivery ! Unbeatable ! :laugh:

Been there done that... :blush::ph34r:

2 hours ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

I am on a 1060 with 6g and getting good performance in V4. I found its all in the settings. At this point i am going to wait and not upgrade to a 1080ti as I don't feel the performance gain is worth the price. What I did was set my 40" 4k  tv to 30 hz and then set NVI to locked frames at 20 then...

I locked my frames at 20 in NVI as that was the average frames I was getting with the 1060.  I am using Southern Cal LA basin area for all my testing. Josh

Having 1080 and lock frames at 20 !?

Now that's something I so wouldn't be able to force myself into.

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7 hours ago, sidfadc said:

Thanks for that, the shimmering on anything less than 4xSSAA is pretty bad in P3D but of course this comes with a performance penalty, hence the upgrade to a 1070.  The card cost me £379.99 which was hard to get past the missus in the first place lol.  I didn't have the heart to tell her how much a 1080 or higher was.

You could of added the cost of the GTX1080Ti, to your total divorce proceedings.  

Point 1.  You could amortize the cost over let's say five years.

Point 2. You'd have nobody to tell you to shut down the computer and attend to the 'Honey Do' list...thereby max'ing the usage thereof!

You missed out on a great opportunity...could have got that GTX1080Ti, instead of the 1070, and the time to use it, in one fell swoop!   :biggrin:

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Just recieved my 1080ti yesterday morning and installed today.  The improvement from a 980ti to a 1080ti was significant for my system which is an I7-7700K @ 4.5.  The sim just runs smoother at my 4K 30hz setting than it did with my 980ti.  I'm happy with my upgrade and feel it was well worth the $900 for the card.

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I just swapped my 970 for a 1070 FTW, but I have not yet installed P3D v4, still running v3.

Frame rates so far are improved, and I think the extra VRAM helps when flying heavier AC into FB KSFO with ORBX NCA and Vector.  I noticed my available VAS drops into 5 digits, but all the textures render well and it seems smoother than with the 970.

Knock on wood, no "DXGI_DEVICE_HANG" messages (yet).  I am using 376.33 nVidia driver. 

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12 hours ago, sidfadc said:

From a GTX 970...

So my system is now i7 4790k 4.4Ghz, GTX 1070, 16GB RAM.  I've only swapped out the graphics card and had a couple of hours last night to set it up.  I find in P3D, I previously used FSX Steam edition anything less than 4xSSAA produces terrible shimmering, something which really annoys me.  On my 970 with 4xSSAA the GPU load would quickly reach 100%.  I'm hoping the extra VRAM gives me a bit more breathing room.

Anyone else performed a similar upgrade and what have been the results?

Cheers
Sid

The 1070 is a good enough card. Your problem is not 4XSSAA it is 4XSSAA AT NIGHT with dynamic lighting. I have the 1080 and monitored the GPU load using 4XSSAA and 8XSSAA. And at night at a payware airport both inside and certainly outside low double digit to single digit fps and 100% GPU loads.. In the day time good frames but your GPU load with 8XSSAA  in external and internal views is 100%. If you go down to 4XSSAA it's 100% external views GPU load and 65-70% internal. 

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12 hours ago, sgreen91 said:

Just recieved my 1080ti yesterday morning and installed today.  The improvement from a 980ti to a 1080ti was significant for my system which is an I7-7700K @ 4.5.  The sim just runs smoother at my 4K 30hz setting than it did with my 980ti.  I'm happy with my upgrade and feel it was well worth the $900 for the card.

7700K + GTX 1070 is enough and v4 runs excellent on it. 1080Ti is overpriced, unless you have burning cash to spend.

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26 minutes ago, Drumcode said:

7700K + GTX 1070 is enough and v4 runs excellent on it. 1080Ti is overpriced, unless you have burning cash to spend.

I do agree but it was my wifes gift to me after getting our daughter put through college.  

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34 minutes ago, Drumcode said:

7700K + GTX 1070 is enough and v4 runs excellent on it. 1080Ti is overpriced, unless you have burning cash to spend.

You mean "unless you use 4K"

 

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