Alex Kulak

Bypass the 773 for the NGX for P3D v4

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Is there anyway you can consider just getting the 737ngx out instead of us waiting for the 773? That way we have 2 planes that can do long hauls the 772 and the 747, and one plane we can do short hauls aka 737ngx. I hope you take this into consideration

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2 minutes ago, Alex Kulak said:

Is there anyway you can consider just getting the 737ngx out instead of us waiting for the 773? That way we have 2 planes that can do long hauls the 772 and the 747, and one plane we can do short hauls aka 737ngx. I hope you take this into consideration

Thank you

Alex Kulak 

Alex,

I think you'll find that they'll be being worked on simultaneously by different people. The NGX isn't being held up by the 773, it's slower because it's code is older so needs a lot more work to bring it up to P3Dv4 standard.

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1 minute ago, PMDG777 said:

Alex,

I think you'll find that they'll be being worked on simultaneously by different people. The NGX isn't being held up by the 773, it's slower because it's code is older so needs a lot more work to bring it up to P3Dv4 standard.

I hope this is a way to make the ngx updated with newer code and backend features 

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1 minute ago, Alex Kulak said:

I hope this is a way to make the ngx updated with newer code and backend features 

I'm not sure about new features, those will probably come later. I think for now the focus is on the underlying code and making sure it's stable in v4.

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Hey! Yeah! Apple? I don't know what you're actually doing back there, but can you stop doing what you're doing, regardless of how you're doing it, and the reasoning behind it, and do it the way I think you should do it? K thanks...

 

I appreciate the fervor, but c'mon guys...
A little trust that we know what we're doing, and why, would be appreciated.

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11 hours ago, Alex Kulak said:

and one plane we can do short hauls aka 737ngx

What's to stop you flying a T7 on a short route? Or a 744? I don't understand your logic.

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16 minutes ago, DavidP said:

What's to stop you flying a T7 on a short route? Or a 744? I don't understand your logic.

It is simply unrealistic for some destinations to be operated using widebodies. For example, KDCA, KLGA, LOWI, just to name a few. 

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Be cool everyone.

I'm excited as well with what's coming down the pipe. Especially the DC-6!

But, the more we pester and annoy these guys, the less they'll communicate what they're up to and about when we might see the future releases.

Just nod at the news and be thankful there's groups like PMDG.

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2 minutes ago, DavidP said:

What's to stop you flying a T7 on a short route? Or a 744? I don't understand your logic.

Hey David. Sorry to jump in but why you would question his logic. It's not that puzzling. He wants to fly a 737.
People have very personal reasons why they choose routes and aircraft. Maybe virtual SWA frowns on landing a 777-300 in KBUR.
I was happy to see the question even though the answer was going to be obvious.

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The unrealistic thing raises its head again!  How is flying a computer realistic in the first place- one must admit we all have to put a certain amount of "realisim" behind just to enjoy this hobby.

The nice thing about flying the big boys on short hauls is that it builds the skills there they are most needed - take off and landings.   As a kid my friends and I watched B-52s doing countless touch and gos at Barksdale AFB, Louisiana.  We'd lay on the large round hay bales off the end of the runway (but just off base) and watch for hours on end.   Also got to see a lot of KC-135, KC-10, and A-10s doing the same thing.

My first flights with PDMG 747 QII were repeated touch and gos between Midway and O'Hare just outside of downtown Chicago.  Lots of good practice there.

And I too am psyched about the DC-6...

Mark Trainer

 

 

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24 minutes ago, bob34 said:

He wants to fly a 737.

The issue is 

12 hours ago, Alex Kulak said:

and one plane we can do short hauls aka 737ngx

you can fly anything short haul while you wait the 737

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I agree this is starting to get ridiculous, and tbh I don't know why they waited to release there MOST POPULAR plane and best selling add on for last, I understand that they needed the hot fix but COME  ON already. nobody cares about an expansion pack anyways, #releasethe73!  

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14 hours ago, PMDG777 said:

Alex,

I think you'll find that they'll be being worked on simultaneously by different people. The NGX isn't being held up by the 773, it's slower because it's code is older so needs a lot more work to bring it up to P3Dv4 standard.

Here's my question, if for some reason the 73 is ready before the 77W, WILL THEY RELEASE IT or wait for the dumb 777? 

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3 minutes ago, swapilot said:

Here's my question, if for some reason the 73 is ready before the 77W, WILL THEY RELEASE IT or wait for the dumb 777? 

We're just gonna wait here and twiddle our thumbs. No sense in shifting to another project or anything...

 

C'mon. Give us the benefit of the doubt here. We're not idiots, and we aren't new to the concept of project management.

Also: welcome to the forum, please sign your posts.

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1 hour ago, mtrainer said:

The unrealistic thing raises its head again!  How is flying a computer realistic in the first place- one must admit we all have to put a certain amount of "realisim" behind just to enjoy this hobby.

The nice thing about flying the big boys on short hauls is that it builds the skills there they are most needed - take off and landings.   As a kid my friends and I watched B-52s doing countless touch and gos at Barksdale AFB, Louisiana.  We'd lay on the large round hay bales off the end of the runway (but just off base) and watch for hours on end.   Also got to see a lot of KC-135, KC-10, and A-10s doing the same thing.

My first flights with PDMG 747 QII were repeated touch and gos between Midway and O'Hare just outside of downtown Chicago.  Lots of good practice there.

And I too am psyched about the DC-6...

Mark Trainer

 

 

Ok that's cool and all and I understand your point of view about the computer and all but, some of us like myself enjoy flying on schedules and realistic routes with the REAL AIRCRAFT for a VA. I love doing this and I am part of SWVA and flying a 777 from KDEN-KMCO is not the most realistic thing for me to do.   

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1 minute ago, scandinavian13 said:

We're just gonna wait here and twiddle our thumbs. No sense in shifting to another project or anything...

 

C'mon. Give us the benefit of the doubt here. We're not idiots, and we aren't new to the concept of project management.

Also: welcome to the forum, please sign your posts.

Thanks for the welcome. I don't believe you guys to be idiots but please for the love of god, UPDATE us more. Alot of us are sitting here doing exactly that, twiddling our thumbs while we wait. Some of us can not afford the VERY expensive 777 or insanely expensive 747 for V4 and are only confined to the defaults and freeware which for someone who has flown the NGX professionally for a year or so now IS ISIS LEVEL TORMENT. But you still have yet to answer my question "clearly" I guess, if the 37 is ready before the 777 will it be released and when can we expect it because this is starting to give me the same feeling the Aerosoft CRJ is. :ampun::blush::angry:

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2 minutes ago, swapilot said:

Thanks for the welcome. I don't believe you guys to be idiots but please for the love of god, UPDATE us more. Alot of us are sitting here doing exactly that, twiddling our thumbs while we wait. Some of us can not afford the VERY expensive 777 or insanely expensive 747 for V4 and are only confined to the defaults and freeware which for someone who has flown the NGX professionally for a year or so now IS ISIS LEVEL TORMENT. But you still have yet to answer my question "clearly" I guess, if the 37 is ready before the 777 will it be released and when can we expect it because this is starting to give me the same feeling the Aerosoft CRJ is. :ampun::blush::angry:

His welcome was telling you to follow the rules and sign all your posts with your full name.

Also, relax. It's a FREE (YES FREE) update. They could say no we're not updating it to v4 or make you pay for it (Looking at you AS A32x) then what would you do? Try showing a bit of respect for people who are putting in time and effort to give you something for FREE.

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Just now, PMDG777 said:

His welcome was telling you to follow the rules and sign all your posts with your full name.

Which I am now doing as you can see, god what is it on AVSIM with everyone always getting on people lol. I have a name now see \/  \//

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Just now, swapilot said:

Which I am now doing as you can see, god what is it on AVSIM with everyone always getting on people lol. I have a name now see \/  \//

I edited my reply further, see above.

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2 minutes ago, swapilot said:

Thanks for the welcome. I don't believe you guys to be idiots but please for the love of god, UPDATE us more. Alot of us are sitting here doing exactly that, twiddling our thumbs while we wait. Some of us can not afford the VERY expensive 777 or insanely expensive 747 for V4 and are only confined to the defaults and freeware which for someone who has flown the NGX professionally for a year or so now IS ISIS LEVEL TORMENT. But you still have yet to answer my question "clearly" I guess, if the 37 is ready before the 777 will it be released and when can we expect it because this is starting to give me the same feeling the Aerosoft CRJ is. :ampun::blush::angry:

I'm pretty sure that I did.

Whatever is ready first will be updated first. We're not stupid. We are fully aware of the concept of shifting resources to where they're able to move forward if an external influence halts progress.

Hell...I've been working on a project that none of you are even aware of during all of this, while also testing the 744, 77L, and DC6 in P3Dv3 and P3Dv4. Oh yeah, and also updating the tool that provides the micro updates.

...but no, like I said earlier, I have no idea in the slightest how to shift from project to project if he hit external snags. I routinely just sit on my hands while I wait for my co-workers to update the 744, 77L and DC6. What else could I be doing...?

 

Am I allowed to be upset at the fact that it seems like a lot of you are inferring we're too dumb to understand the concept of resource shifting and project/time management?

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3 minutes ago, PMDG777 said:

His welcome was telling you to follow the rules and sign all your posts with your full name.

Also, relax. It's a FREE (YES FREE) update. They could say no we're not updating it to v4 or make you pay for it (Looking at you AS A32x) then what would you do? Try showing a bit of respect for people who are putting in time and effort to give you something for FREE.

I guess I don't understand what you're saying... the only time I brought up money was defending the people who don't have access to the quite expensive PMDG widebodys. Also if you are referring to the FSL 320, it is a free upgrade to V4 and I am a proud owner of the 320. It's great 

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2 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

I'm pretty sure that I did.

Whatever is ready first will be updated first. We're not stupid. We are fully aware of the concept of shifting resources to where they're able to move forward if an external influence halts progress.

Hell...I've been working on a project that none of you are even aware of during all of this, while also testing the 744, 77L, and DC6 in P3Dv3 and P3Dv4. Oh yeah, and also updating the tool that provides the micro updates.

...but no, like I said earlier, I have no idea in the slightest how to shift from project to project if he hit external snags. I routinely just sit on my hands while I wait for my co-workers to update the 744, 77L and DC6. What else could I be doing...?

 

Am I allowed to be upset at the fact that it seems like a lot of you are inferring we're too dumb to understand the concept of resource shifting and project/time management?

Nobody is inferring that and being that this is your own forum, I think maybe you should try to be a little less "aggravated" 

 

WE ARE SIMPLY ASKED TO BE UPDATED being that the last update we got officially was about the 77W needing hot fix 1 and that it would be out this week, it's Friday, HF1 is released and still no update, just delays  

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WOOOH! I just asked a simple question, got my answer within a minute, didn't need to go around questioning my knowledge. I'll support PMDG with any decision they make. After all they do make top of the line quality simulator planes to fly.

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4 minutes ago, swapilot said:

I guess I don't understand what you're saying... the only time I brought up money was defending the people who don't have access to the quite expensive PMDG widebodys.

You're acting like PMDG owe you the NGX update for P3Dv4, when in reality, they're doing it for free. You're complaining about not getting something for free when you wanted it.

4 minutes ago, swapilot said:

Also if you are referring to the FSL 320, it is a free upgrade to V4 and I am a proud owner of the 320. It's great 

No I really wasn't, I was referring to the Aerosoft A32x which they have announced will be a paid update to P3Dv4.

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