August 29, 20178 yr I've been using FSX since it's release. Prior to V4's release, I've never used any version of Prepar3d. Using a Windows 7 system, I purchased V4 and was perplexed at the poor performance. I inquired in the forums, a rare minority of people reported the same issues. At the same time, I was experiencing frequent crashes in FSX; APPHANG 1b crashes virtually every time I started a flight in the NGX. I determined my Windows 7 was corrupted either by my own user error or other means. I upgraded to a I5 7600K at 5.3ghz, fast DDR4 memory, and two 1080 Ti's. I also installed Windows 10 Pro 64, and one single M.2 pcie 2 TB SSD. I installed Prepar3d again. My settings are configured pretty high, although I set autogen to normal and dynamic lighting off for now, I'm using 4096 textures in 4K, 4SSAA. With the PMDG NGX, REX TD, AS4, I'm getting a solid 60fps at Flightbeam's KSFOHD V2. The terrain looks so much better than FSX, and flying looks and feels much smoother, immersive, and realilistic. David J. Zill Core I7 8700K @ 5.3 Ghz / Liquid cooled (Kraken X62)/32GB DDR4 3200 RAM/EVGA 1080 Ti SC/ Acer X5280HK G-SYNC 4K Monitor/ ASUS Essence STX II Sound Card/ Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCI-E SSD 2TB/ Windows 10 Professional 64/ Latest drivers
August 29, 20178 yr David, i have been looking for realistic comparison between FSX and P3DV4. Like yourself, Ive been on FSX for what seems like forever with Win 7/64, having spend a good deal of money over the years. If i understand correctly, you are very impressed with the differences. Can you further elaborate?
August 29, 20178 yr 7 minutes ago, LDP1949 said: If i understand correctly, you are very impressed with the differences. Don't forget to be impressed with his brand new MONSTER PC...! I think a lot of the enthusiasm comes from that too! CPU at 5.3, two 1080 Ti's, a M.2 pcie 2 TB SSD... no wonder he is happy with performance!
August 29, 20178 yr Moderator 6 minutes ago, J van E said: no wonder he is happy with performance! LOL. If he wasn't, I'd have some serious doubts about him AND P3D!! Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
August 29, 20178 yr Please change topic to Thoughts on Davids monster rig.. Awesome David! Maurice J I9 12900k \ EVGA 3080ti \ G-Skill 32GB \ Samsung 4K TV
August 29, 20178 yr Author 52 minutes ago, LDP1949 said: David, i have been looking for realistic comparison between FSX and P3DV4. Like yourself, Ive been on FSX for what seems like forever with Win 7/64, having spend a good deal of money over the years. If i understand correctly, you are very impressed with the differences. Can you further elaborate? A lot of visual differences come from the DX11/12 rendering internal HDR textures, volumetric fog rendering, etc. Textures overall appear sharper, higher resolution. Runs much smoother than FSX (Which I swore by religiously for years). Prepar3d V4 takes advantage of the most current DirectX, and is also SLi capable. In FSX to even come close I have to create an Nvidia control panel profile, Nvidia Inspector profile, and the DX10 fixer. I was very hesitant at first, however at this point I don't see how I could go back to FSX. David J. Zill Core I7 8700K @ 5.3 Ghz / Liquid cooled (Kraken X62)/32GB DDR4 3200 RAM/EVGA 1080 Ti SC/ Acer X5280HK G-SYNC 4K Monitor/ ASUS Essence STX II Sound Card/ Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCI-E SSD 2TB/ Windows 10 Professional 64/ Latest drivers
August 30, 20178 yr 6 hours ago, davidzill said: A lot of visual differences come from the DX11/12 rendering internal HDR textures, volumetric fog rendering, etc. Textures overall appear sharper, higher resolution. Runs much smoother than FSX (Which I swore by religiously for years). Prepar3d V4 takes advantage of the most current DirectX, and is also SLi capable. In FSX to even come close I have to create an Nvidia control panel profile, Nvidia Inspector profile, and the DX10 fixer. I was very hesitant at first, however at this point I don't see how I could go back to FSX. That's very interesting and helpful. Thanks sir.
August 30, 20178 yr I was going to ask p3d users if I should use w10 instead of w7 any real advantage???
August 30, 20178 yr Author 3 hours ago, MrSpeaker said: I was going to ask p3d users if I should use w10 instead of w7 any real advantage??? My differences are explained in my initial post, however I will say Windows 10 appears far more optimized for performance than Windows 7. No editing or performance tweaks needed, it's good to go out of the box. David J. Zill Core I7 8700K @ 5.3 Ghz / Liquid cooled (Kraken X62)/32GB DDR4 3200 RAM/EVGA 1080 Ti SC/ Acer X5280HK G-SYNC 4K Monitor/ ASUS Essence STX II Sound Card/ Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCI-E SSD 2TB/ Windows 10 Professional 64/ Latest drivers
August 30, 20178 yr 4 hours ago, MrSpeaker said: I was going to ask p3d users if I should use w10 instead of w7 any real advantage??? Not to mentions you often don't get good drivers for newer hardware. AT LEAST you should have Win 8 if you plan with new software and hardware. System: i9 [email protected] - 32 GB RAM - Aorus 1080ti --- Sim/Addons: P3D v5 + ProSim737
August 30, 20178 yr 12 hours ago, davidzill said: A lot of visual differences come from the DX11/12 rendering Prepar3d V4 takes advantage of the most current DirectX P3D v4 uses DX11, not DX12! Support for DX12 would be awesome but I don't think we will get DX12 support anytime soon. v5 maybe. Take note that DX12 would limit use of P3D v4 to Windows 10. Which btw wouldn't be bad because Windows 10 rocks.
August 30, 20178 yr I use P3D since v2 now. V4 is the first time that since weeks I fire up the sim, load my flightplan and go flying. No fiddling around with settings or bugs or sufferings from CTDs... I love V4. It lets me do what I want: Fly and not think about all other stuff around it.
August 31, 20178 yr Author I love not anticipating an OOM David J. Zill Core I7 8700K @ 5.3 Ghz / Liquid cooled (Kraken X62)/32GB DDR4 3200 RAM/EVGA 1080 Ti SC/ Acer X5280HK G-SYNC 4K Monitor/ ASUS Essence STX II Sound Card/ Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCI-E SSD 2TB/ Windows 10 Professional 64/ Latest drivers
August 31, 20178 yr Moderator On 30/08/2017 at 6:40 AM, davidzill said: My differences are explained in my initial post, however I will say Windows 10 appears far more optimized for performance than Windows 7. No editing or performance tweaks needed, it's good to go out of the box. I trust you have turned off all the security 'features' of 10. Some are extremely undesirable. As for the mandatory updates... that is still the reason I will stick with 7 for as long as possible. I am still running v3.4 but should I switch to v4 I don't anticipate worse performance than v3.4 gives me. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 31, 20178 yr On 8/30/2017 at 1:40 AM, davidzill said: My differences are explained in my initial post, however I will say Windows 10 appears far more optimized for performance than Windows 7. You also had a recent topic about the very poor performance of P3DV4, now 4 pages in length. Why are we starting a new topic? Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
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