Christopher Low

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I have just come across a YouTube video describing how to download FlyTampa Amsterdam Schiphol for FREE. I then noticed that there were more videos with FREE download instructions for other payware addons (eg. the PMDG 747-400 QOTSII). Do the owners of YouTube need users to report videos of this kind to get them removed? Blatant disregard for someone else's intellectual property on a public site like YouTube is unacceptable.

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I have only just found the Report button. It looks like "..." on my screen. I am just surprised that videos of this type are not taken down almost instantly. The FlyTampa Amsterdam video that I noticed was uploaded on July 6, but there is another one that was uploaded on January 15!! Then there are two "free download" videos for the PMDG 747-400 v3 dated March 5 this year, and 2016 December 6. It baffles me why they have not been reported yet...

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I reported such a video a while back. Actually I never followed what happened to it. Chances are it got never taken down. Maybe one report is not enough...

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I note that the only relevant option for reporting is "infringes my copyright". I assume that this is the one I would use, even though it is FlyTampa's copyright that is being infringed?

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This and other "Youtubers" who steal other peoples' videos, reupload them and then earn advert revenue from them. Keep clicking that report button :)

 

 

 

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It would be more useful if there was an option to "report software piracy". Quite why this is not an option already is baffling.

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31 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

It would be more useful if there was an option to "report software piracy". Quite why this is not an option already is baffling.

Probably because Youtube aren't actually pirating anything.  Showing someone how to do something is not the same as actually doing it.  Youtube will take the videos down because they are in breach of it's terms and conditions, but i wouldn't want to give Youtube the chance to become even more censorship happy given how they have reacted to the recent political discussions, sledgehammer and nut spring to mind.

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Youtube aren't prating anything, but by allowing the videos to stay up they are seen to be condoning the piracy which should upset them. I say SHOULD... yet they continue to censor other things - free speech and opinions...

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In my experience, the software author is required to report piracy.  Some of my freeware add-ons were pirated and I had to go thru great lengths to prove I was the author with some sites demanding my source code, which I did not provide.  Sometimes the sites themselves seem to turn a blind eye to piracy and seem to solicit the hits they receive from those intending to pirate, maybe for advertiser satisfaction.

John

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We've spent countless hours battling this crud on Youtube.

The good in all this however is that the folks who are in charge follow through with the removal of the reported video, or in some instances completely remove the infringing channel. 

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The best way to fight this is to notify the author of the payware product (if your query to youtube seems to be ignored).  The author is in a position to determine whether the post infringes on their copyright or source of income.  Some authors look the other way if the pirates are minimal in quantity, not finding it worth the trouble to complain.  I only complain if someone tries to sell my freeware for profit, in clear violation of the license.  I haven't had to do that in years since most of my freeware was written for FS9/FSX or was written for use in schools in the case of Spirapaint and mirrorart.

John

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17 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I have just come across a YouTube video describing how to download FlyTampa Amsterdam Schiphol for FREE. I then noticed that there were more videos with FREE download instructions for other payware addons (eg. the PMDG 747-400 QOTSII). Do the owners of YouTube need users to report videos of this kind to get them removed? Blatant disregard for someone else's intellectual property on a public site like YouTube is unacceptable.

actually  a  few  years  ago i sent  a support  ticket  to pmdg  stating  this  and  their  reply  was  thanks  for  notifying  us  but  there  is  nothing  we  can  do  about  it

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1 hour ago, pete_auau said:

actually  a  few  years  ago i sent  a support  ticket  to pmdg  stating  this  and  their  reply  was  thanks  for  notifying  us  but  there  is  nothing  we  can  do  about  it

That's pretty shocking. I'm sure an email from PMDG to the author would have frightened them off, but there is so much piracy out there now that they'd be constantly policing the Internet. I think ORBX had the right idea on how to deal with pirates, i.e. Delete all their ORBX scenery when it's detected :biggrin: (Funny that these same people then went to Avsim or the ORBX forum and complained their scenery had disappeared)

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6 hours ago, tonywob said:

That's pretty shocking. I'm sure an email from PMDG to the author would have frightened them off, but there is so much piracy out there now that they'd be constantly policing the Internet. I think ORBX had the right idea on how to deal with pirates, i.e. Delete all their ORBX scenery when it's detected :biggrin: (Funny that these same people then went to Avsim or the ORBX forum and complained their scenery had disappeared)

Thats  the  trouble  remove  one  and  another  will  come  up  its place.  Yep  orbx  had  the right  idea   pity  they  didnt  go one  step further in  making  all  files  corrupt  on the pc  once  the  pc  detects  a pirated  version:biggrin:

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Trashing the PC is a developer's right in the case of piracy, lesson learned to the young ones who have pirated these sims.  It's a hard lesson, and I don't know if it's a legal option.  Developers should just make sure their products can't work unless purchased and licensed to a specific PC.  It can be done, it's done by big companies all the time.  But the coding is an added mass to the product and I know developers don't want that.  It's an honesty act, like riding the light rail in Phoenix.  You purchase a card or not to get on the train.  I found the same true in Europe.  You just do what is right.

John

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Don't know if trashing the PC is legal or not, but it sure might be fun, especially if the pirate's PC locks up with a screen saying "THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!"  :happy: :biggrin:

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51 minutes ago, HighBypass said:

Don't know if trashing the PC is legal or not, but it sure might be fun, especially if the pirate's PC locks up with a screen saying "THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!"  :happy: :biggrin:

Or: GOTCHA! YOU THIEVING B*S*A*D!  :laugh:

 

 

Just noticed your sig: "What's it doing now?" The times I hear this cry from my wife about her PC!

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1 hour ago, Cactus521 said:

Trashing the PC is a developer's right in the case of piracy,

If you walk on my lawn do I get to vandalize your house? If you steal my lawn mower do I get to beat you up?

The law takes a very dim view to what you advocate, and any software author that did this immediately opens themselves up to all sorts of lawsuits.

Luke

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I am not advocating it, I am not in that position vs. a payware developer.  But I know some have done this.  Is it right?  Well, is it right to steal?  It is probably too strong of a punishment for piracy but pirates have to be careful because some developers are getting fed up with the taking of their intellectual property.  The governments are weak on cybercrime, they try to investigate but the pirates are insidious in their intentions and try to work around all corners.  Most of these pirates come out of Africa and they are very skilled at attacking developers.  It's a war.

Look, we have all recorded movies onto a VCR, DVD or computer.  No one is perfect.  But in the world of software development, the hard work that goes into coding software for medical, retail, hospitality, legal systems needs to be protected.  People demand from us "ease of use" and we work hard to do it, we have to protect our product from being stolen just like one would protect a car on a dealers lot.  I am glad to have retired from all of this.  The stress over the years took its toll.

John

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2 hours ago, Luke said:

If you walk on my lawn do I get to vandalize your house? If you steal my lawn mower do I get to beat you up?

The law takes a very dim view to what you advocate, and any software author that did this immediately opens themselves up to all sorts of lawsuits.

Luke

But there's never a cop around when you need one!

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3 hours ago, Cactus521 said:

Look, we have all recorded movies onto a VCR, DVD or computer.

Quite the generalization to make to say that we've all done it, really.

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Can't say I haven't known anyone who hasn't recorded a show from a VCR, at least in my generation.

John

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7 hours ago, Cactus521 said:

Can't say I haven't known anyone who hasn't recorded a show from a VCR, at least in my generation.

I don't watch TV or movies, so there's that.

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