October 16, 20178 yr Commercial Member Is it against the EULA to share an installer with a friend but not the key?
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October 17, 20178 yr 23 minutes ago, Milton Waddams said: Is it against the EULA to share an installer with a friend but not the key? Just curious why one would need to share the installer? Maybe no internet, but then how would your friend activate it? Anyways, nothing is supposed to be shared. Michael Backes Windows 10 x64 | i7 8086k 5.0 GHz | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | 1250W PSU | GeForece RTX 2080 | ASUS TUF Z390 Plus Gaming | 2x ASUS 22" Monitors + 1 39" 4K SEIKI TV (mounted) | Intel PCIe 1.2TB SSD and 6TB Seagate HDD (1 for OS and 1 for P3D v4) | Corsiar H100i GTX Extreme Liquid Cooler |
October 17, 20178 yr Author Commercial Member 4 minutes ago, elmucki said: Just curious why one would need to share the installer? Maybe no internet, but then how would your friend activate it? Anyways, nothing is supposed to be shared. I honestly don't know, he has an FSX key and thinks that it will activate a P3D installer. I told him it won't but he wants to try it nonetheless.
October 17, 20178 yr If he has a key legitimately he should have the means to download it directly from P3D at their website. This is something to ask LM wouldn't it?
October 17, 20178 yr Author Commercial Member 1 hour ago, SpiritFlyer said: If he has a key legitimately he should have the means to download it directly from P3D at their website. This is something to ask LM wouldn't it? A PMDG installer. He only bought the FSX version, thus only having access to an FSX key and installer, but thinks that an FSX key will work on a P3D PMDG installer.
October 17, 20178 yr I haven't purchased a PMDG product since 2009 and that was for FS2004, but I doubt the EULA has changed much...which, by the way, you could always read and perhaps answer your own question. Based on the EULA for the last PMDG product I purchased I would say, no, you cannot share the installer. In the opening paragraphs "the Software" is defined as the package as a whole, whether by direct download or CD, and all items contained within that package, including manuals, etc. Later on it specifically forbids sharing "the software"...so, no. Of course I speak as a user and not as a member of the PMDG staff, one of which I am sure will either chime in or delete this thread soon enough. Randy Randy Tyndall You never lose the buzz of flying. Every time you take off, it feels a bit naughty, as if you're doing something you shouldn't do...Matt Jones, Boultbee Flight Academy
October 17, 20178 yr 2 hours ago, Milton Waddams said: A PMDG installer. He only bought the FSX version, thus only having access to an FSX key and installer, but thinks that an FSX key will work on a P3D PMDG installer. Almost certainly wouldn't work. The FSX and Prepar3D versions are different software and the Prepar3D version will not function (at least not correctly) inside of FSX and vice versa. Along with that, the installer will not find and Prepar3D installations on your friend's computer that is "missing" Prepar3D. (As it only has FSX so the installer shouldn't work.) I am almost certain that the activation process also requires an internet connection so there should be no reason for him to be unable to download it himself if he plans to activate it. (There are plenty of other possible reasons why your friend wants your installer but that is one example.) And more importantly; Sharing your installer or product key is almost certainly a violation of PMDG's EULA. I hope that clears some stuff up. (I also appreciate the fact that you are checking the legality of this act before executing it.)
October 17, 20178 yr err wonder why this thread isn't locked already, thought the answer would be simple I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
October 17, 20178 yr 9 minutes ago, pete_auau said: err wonder why this thread isn't locked already, thought the answer would be simple After a quick look at time.is, it is really early for most people in the United States which is where the main forum moderator, Kyle is presumably based. I'm sure he'll clear this up soon and this will be locked hastily afterwards for good reason. :)
October 17, 20178 yr The FSX key wont activate the P3D version and vice versa. What you are trying to do is EULA busting, if not downright piracy. Why would PMDG help you achieve this in their official forum? If it was my friend, I would tell them a credit card and the PMDG website is a good starting point to get the PMDG products in P3D. Wes Meyer
October 17, 20178 yr 12 minutes ago, 77west said: If it was my friend, I would tell them a credit card and the PMDG website is a good starting point to get the PMDG products in P3D. I think that you may have misunderstood Milton's post. (I am not supporting his actions here and do not encourage anyone to do what he is proposing.) :) He claims that he has a friend who wants to use Milton's Prepar3D installer to install 747 QOTSII into FSX on the friend's computer and activate it with his own (The friend's) FSX license. Why anyone would want to do such a thing (or expect it to work) is beyond me... Either way, it IS "EULA busting" as you referred to it. (I like that term.) Edited October 17, 20178 yr by Guest Better Clarification.
October 17, 20178 yr Commercial Member Sharing your installer/Keys etc to third person is not allowed period. Trying to install product that is meant for FSX or FSX SE to another simulator platform is not allowed as well period. Chris Makris PLEASE NOTE PMDG HAS DEPARTED AVSIM You can find us at http://forum.pmdg.com
October 17, 20178 yr Commercial Member 11 hours ago, Milton Waddams said: I honestly don't know, he has an FSX key and thinks that it will activate a P3D installer. I told him it won't but he wants to try it nonetheless. No, you cannot share your installer. No, an FSX key will not work with P3D (that's kind of the point of having separate installers and keys). No, you may not try this (it won't work anyway, but it would require sharing your installer, so...no). I'm rather surprised that this question was even asked. I'm somewhat inclined to ask what his name is so that I can lock his account for asking you to violate agreements so that he could attempt to violate the software agreement himself. Kyle Rodgers
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