November 18, 20178 yr I am headed to Miami in mid-February and will book two hours in a 777 Level D full motion simulator. I've done this many times and it is great to test out our skills we mastered on our PMDG 777 and apply them to a $17 million full motion 777 sim. If you are real good in your PMDG 777 sim, you should have no problem landing this plane. If anyone wants to join me, let me know. We can do 4 hours total: 2 hours each n the left seat flying and 2 hours in the right seat. It is a bit costly, $1000 per person - but it is a real thrill. Paul Gugliotta
November 19, 20178 yr Know exactly where you are going and it's an excellent facility... Been there quite a bit myself... Had to do an emergency landing with the 777 in Brazil with one engine out! Re: My profile pic... Looks very similar to yours ;-) Chris Camp
November 19, 20178 yr Indeed, been there, done that. Just brush up on the SOP's, flows, the starndard visual pattern and the landing thechnique in the FCOM and you should get a "wow" from the instructor. ;) But to be honest, the Level-D sim handles a bit differently, it's much smoother and actually way easier to land than a desktop sim, with a very limited range of motion and sight picture. What I really like about the 777 is the TAC, which helps quite a lot after a post V1 engine cut... :D And the ECL + EICAS of course - almost no system knowledge required. (EICAS driven aircraft principle). Oh and the B77W actually starts rolling on idle power even at MTOW! With kind regards, Bogdan Misko.
November 19, 20178 yr Author Well, you do agree, if you mastered the PMDG 777, you have no difficulty in a full motion sim? Agree? That is my experience from doing this many times and I never flew a real plan in my life. Quite a testimony for the great work PMDG does. Paul Gugliotta
November 19, 20178 yr I wish I could try after PMDG. I did it once in Amsterdam on a 737 sim, unfortunately it was before the PMDG 737 was release, though I had purchased in advance the Full 737 documentation set printed by PMDG in top quality, and had gone through it so I was really not lost, and it went actually quite well even though I had 0 experience at all :) But for sure the PMDg products are a really good trainer. The things I recall always the most except the obivous realism of the real cockpit/systems as well as movement, is really the weight of the yoke. I don't know for any other Boeing aircraft than the 737 but it sure felt heavy after the four hour time in the sim I sure had my arms a bit stiff, as obviously I flew a lot manually as spending time there with the autopilot would not be as interesting :D Anyway I sure think that for any one that can have the chance to have a ride in one of these that it's really a great experience :) Aurelien Vandoorine
November 19, 20178 yr On 11/17/2017 at 9:22 PM, paulyg123 said: If anyone wants to join me, let me know. Is it OK if those who have spent the last 40 plus years playing "You Bet Your Job" every 6 months pass? blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
November 19, 20178 yr Author Can someone translate Bluestar's response for me? Wedgantilles: I have flown on most of the Boeing Sims, and I agree, flying the 737 for 4 hours was a workout on my arms. In my opinion, the 777 full motion sim is much easier to fly. Back to my request - I'd hate to have a right vacant. I already bought the plane tickets to KMIA and have a resort and tee times all set up. I'll book the sim time tomorrow for 2 hours. If anyone want to add two hours, let me know. I guess I could drag my teenager kid with me, but she'll just be texting the whole time in the sim. Paul Gugliotta
November 20, 20178 yr Commercial Member 2 hours ago, paulyg123 said: Can someone translate Bluestar's response for me? Wedgantilles: I have flown on most of the Boeing Sims, and I agree, flying the 737 for 4 hours was a workout on my arms. In my opinion, the 777 full motion sim is much easier to fly. Back to my request - I'd hate to have a right vacant. I already bought the plane tickets to KMIA and have a resort and tee times all set up. I'll book the sim time tomorrow for 2 hours. If anyone want to add two hours, let me know. I guess I could drag my teenager kid with me, but she'll just be texting the whole time in the sim. Is he asking if the people who fly in real life could pass on your offer/request?
November 20, 20178 yr Unfortunately, I'm working, so I won't be able to make it. I don't live too far, only a 3.5-hour drive for me to get there. Captain Kevin Air Kevin 124 heavy, wind calm, runway 4 left, cleared for take-off. Live streams of my flights here.
November 21, 20178 yr Hi All, What Bluestar, is saying in the real world of FAR121 flying,,, the pilot has to pass a check ride every six months, so you feel like you are betting your job if you fail... 40 years of flying mean at least 80 sim. checks. PS. If you like flying and a little true history, go see "American Made" movie, but suggest you read the plot first... Jerry Friz “The Wright Brothers created the single greatest cultural force since the invention of writing. The airplane became the first World Wide Web, bringing people, languages, ideas, and values together.” – Bill Gates
November 21, 20178 yr Author FYI, I usually schedule the time on the weekend or in the evening. Real Pilots have the sim Mon-Friday 8 am - 5 pm. So I go after hours - It works out better for all. I will schedule Tuesday Feb 20th at 6-8 pm. (right outside KMIA) Paul Gugliotta
November 22, 20178 yr 6 hours ago, paulyg123 said: FYI, I usually schedule the time on the weekend or in the evening. Real Pilots have the sim Mon-Friday 8 am - 5 pm. So I go after hours - It works out better for all. I will schedule Tuesday Feb 20th at 6-8 pm. (right outside KMIA) Wouldn't work for me, I work from end of January until middle of March. Captain Kevin Air Kevin 124 heavy, wind calm, runway 4 left, cleared for take-off. Live streams of my flights here.
November 22, 20178 yr Ask Robert if he'll take you up for a fly in his plane and let you take the controls. Matthew Bellette
November 22, 20178 yr I literally do this every 6 months at work. Its a mixture of recurrent training and check rides. It seems like a lot of fun but when your livelihood is riding on it, it can be stressful!! I think I may have a few pics lying around somewhere from the early - wow this is cool - enjoyable days! Dave Robertson BE20, BE35, BE02, C560, CRJ, MD80, E190, B777
November 22, 20178 yr Author You know what would be cool: if I can get an ATC in with me. He/she can give me taxi, departure etc instructions along the way. I will do a complete flight from KJFK to KBOS, cold dark cockpit -start-up taxi etc. I'll take off heavy then magically dump fuel for landing. I'll set weather at 1/2 mile visibility with 10 kt cross winds and shoot into KBOS ILS4R. That will take 1 hour. Then I'll do some fun approaches like KJFK 13L, and a couple of ILS approaches. That will fill the 2 hours. Paul Gugliotta
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