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P3Dv4 - AI ERJ’s ?

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Hi Folks,

I’ve been working on my UTL install populating it with better aircraft - seems we lost the AI Malcontenet models to posterity - a shame for such fine models... Are there any other ERJ’s that work in v4... The UTL models are a tad weak...

Regards,

Scott

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Yep, the UTL ERJ models are weak!  Haven't found a decent ERJ-145. The RavenAI E170 and E175 models have been patched for P3dV4 and Juergen Baumbusch's fine repaints are available for these aircraft. The Alpha-India forums is a great source of info on P3dV4 compatible AI aircraft. The AIG CRJ-700 and 900 have been patched also. 

Regards,

Fred

 

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Oh, dear.....not another range of AI models that does not work in P3D v4. One minute I am keen to upgrade, and the next I read about yet another incompatibility :sad:

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Hi Folks,

Thanks for the comments...

Yeah - added the CRJ7 last night replacing the United Express and American Eagle UTL versions converting some FS9 paints in the process... Much better... Just added Simbol’s “AI Lights Reborn” at the same time - WOW - greatly enhances the AI lighting - simple install - can’t recommend it enough... Now - if I could only find some improved sounds without having to spend another $80.00 to Flight1...

I need some modern UALX and AALX for the E170 and E190 - they have them for the E175 and E195 but they aren’t been ported yet and the paints aren’t interchangeable - lol - I tried...

Oh - also found a good AAL NC FS9 paint for the UTL AIA OC AAL 738W that stood out like a sore thumb... I think I’m going to add some late model USAir to the AAL schemes - poetic license - since it was my favorite airline and I sorely miss the scheme...

Hit Silver and Seaborn with the SAAB and Cape Air with a fleet of 402’s...

Replacing the entire BIZJET and GA fleet as well...

There is a process to convert models to P3Dv4 - I may have to give it a try myself on the AI Malcontent models... It appears a bit detailed and convoluted so it will take some work if wanted badly enough...

I think managing your AI can easily become a hobby within a hobby...

Chris - it’s not as bad as it seems - I was at KFLL for testing and UTL provides a full complement and plenty of variety... I had too many planes - I need to figure out how to enable parallel runway operations now as a single runway just can’t keep up...

Regards,

Scott

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42 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

Oh, dear.....not another range of AI models that does not work in P3D v4. One minute I am keen to upgrade, and the next I read about yet another incompatibility :sad:

 

1 hour ago, fzike said:

Yep, the UTL ERJ models are weak!  Haven't found a decent ERJ-145. The RavenAI E170 and E175 models have been patched for P3dV4 and Juergen Baumbusch's fine repaints are available for these aircraft. The Alpha-India forums is a great source of info on P3dV4 compatible AI aircraft. The AIG CRJ-700 and 900 have been patched also. 

Regards,

Fred

 

Hi Folks,

Where do I find the E175 model ?

Thanks...

Regards,

Scott

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2 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

 

Hi Folks,

Where do I find the E175 model ?

Thanks...

Regards,

Scott

The best place to look is on the AIG "Looking for an AI model?" page:

http://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=23926.0

For P3d4, first install the FS9 version, then install the FSX update over the top. If the FSX model version is complete, then just install that one. Complete versions have an *.AIR file and a base copy of aircraft.cfg.

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14 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

The best place to look is on the AIG "Looking for an AI model?" page:

http://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=23926.0

For P3d4, first install the FS9 version, then install the FSX update over the top. If the FSX model version is complete, then just install that one. Complete versions have an *.AIR file and a base copy of aircraft.cfg.

Thanks Jay...

I’ll take a gander...

Regards,

Scott

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Unfortunately not having the AIM models in p3dv4 has left a big hole, no CRJ200’s either...

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3 hours ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

Thanks for the comments...

Yeah - added the CRJ7 last night replacing the United Express and American Eagle UTL versions converting some FS9 paints in the process... Much better... Just added Simbol’s “AI Lights Reborn” at the same time - WOW - greatly enhances the AI lighting - simple install - can’t recommend it enough... Now - if I could only find some improved sounds without having to spend another $80.00 to Flight1...

I need some modern UALX and AALX for the E170 and E190 - they have them for the E175 and E195 but they aren’t been ported yet and the paints aren’t interchangeable - lol - I tried...

Oh - also found a good AAL NC FS9 paint for the UTL AIA OC AAL 738W that stood out like a sore thumb... I think I’m going to add some late model USAir to the AAL schemes - poetic license - since it was my favorite airline and I sorely miss the scheme...

Hit Silver and Seaborn with the SAAB and Cape Air with a fleet of 402’s...

Replacing the entire BIZJET and GA fleet as well...

There is a process to convert models to P3Dv4 - I may have to give it a try myself on the AI Malcontent models... It appears a bit detailed and convoluted so it will take some work if wanted badly enough...

I think managing your AI can easily become a hobby within a hobby...

Chris - it’s not as bad as it seems - I was at KFLL for testing and UTL provides a full complement and plenty of variety... I had too many planes - I need to figure out how to enable parallel runway operations now as a single runway just can’t keep up...

Regards,

Scott

 You asked for American 738's? https://kyles-ai-works.com/category/american/

 How about some Embraers? https://kyles-ai-works.com/category/american-eagle/

                                                https://kyles-ai-works.com/category/delta-connection/

                                                https://kyles-ai-works.com/category/united-express/

 

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The Raven embraers are visible in P3D v4, however, they aren't optimized for it, and they don't completely work. There is no gear visible, and most of the time, the tail isn't visible either. Hopefully, someone that knows how to optimize it for v4 will do that soon. 

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2 hours ago, b757 said:

The Raven embraers are visible in P3D v4, however, they aren't optimized for it, and they don't completely work. There is no gear visible, and most of the time, the tail isn't visible either. Hopefully, someone that knows how to optimize it for v4 will do that soon. 

Seriously? The Raven Embraers have been P3d V4 compatible since June. 

http://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=23926.0

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Unfortunately not having the AIM models in p3dv4 has left a big hole, no CRJ200’s either...

Let me guess.....someone has already done the conversion, but the original authors are unable to be contacted, so they can't release them :rolleyes:

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8 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

Seriously? The Raven Embraers have been P3d V4 compatible since June. 

http://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=23926.0

There is not a model that works in v4 that has been released yet. Read the last page on the link you posted. As of December, it has not been released yet. Only the FSX compiled one has. 

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FSX compiled should work, as long as it’s not a MDL8 aircraft.  I have them working in my sim with landing gear.

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2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Let me guess.....someone has already done the conversion, but the original authors are unable to be contacted, so they can't release them :rolleyes:

I’m sure someone has done them, but yes according to the AIG forums no one can track down the original author...really too bad.

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Hi Folks,

Thanks for all the responses...

Yeah - I might take that conversion procedure and see just how much work it actually takes... I do love ERJ's...

I've noticed it's a bit of a task tracking down the actual models that work - sometimes having to read through long threads on the AIG forum... Sometimes the links are dead and don't work...

Regards,
Scott

 

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I’m sure someone has done them, but yes according to the AIG forums no one can track down the original author...really too bad

...and this is what annoys me about the freeware community. Why on Earth can't they just release the converted models with a credit for the original author? I mean, why are people even releasing stuff as freeware if they are then going to suddenly come out of hibernation years later, and start protesting that nobody asked them for permission?

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Raven AI are updating their models even though the old ones work.  Raven AI is also doing a new CRJ200 that is almost done.  I think that takes care of all the ERJs and CRJs in P3D v4 except the EMB 135, 145.  

I agree Chris it does suck that people produce stuff and then walk away.  Should be a rule if you produce something and then walk away from the community said item should be able to be manipulated and used by the community.  Like maybe a 5 year moratorium on all freeware items.  

But i also think its important to respect those devs who produce items for free.  We certainly don't want people to steal their work and call it their own much like SKAI and some of those other pirate AI package groups do.  The pirates sometimes sell the freeware as payware.  But i also thinks its reputation.  If someone produces a good piece of freeware and then someone changes said freeware aircraft which then has a major error or issue, the original author will not only get pinged for support but also the community will be like blank aircraft is a piece of junk.  While yes the person who changed it should have to deal with support or bad rep, we all know that doesn't happen.  

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4 hours ago, b757 said:

There is not a model that works in v4 that has been released yet. 

 The fsx model works fine in v4.

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5 hours ago, scottb613 said:

I've noticed it's a bit of a task tracking down the actual models that work - sometimes having to read through long threads on the AIG forum...

This. A major PITB to find models. I can't even imagine what kind of a nightmare it is for the newcomers to the hobby. 

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6 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

It is. This is a nice status list of what is currently working in v4, which is great. The links however are not for the models but rather the files which need to be replaced in the FS9/FSX models. Just because you and I know what we're doing, for the newcomer or a person which isn't internet/computer savvy it is indeed a nightmare. 

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There are far too many red "X" symbols in that list for me to even think about upgrading to P3D v4 at the moment.

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Sorry if this question has been asked before, but is there a user guide on how to remove a model from UT Live and how to replace it with another?  I just got UT Live and noticed at KIAD that the United Embraer planes look awful.  How would I delete that model and replace?

 

Also, is there a way to actually see the actual models of all the planes used in UT Live so I can see which ones I'd want to replace?  I feel like the UT Live program has a  nice space available on the aircraft configuration screen to show the actual model.  

 

Thanks

Bill

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