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Resize ATC window permanently?

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Hi all-

Is there a way to resize the ATC window?

ATC chatter occupies about one third of the window with the rest white space.

Thanks, Mark

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I just grab the top  or the bottom  and drag them to the size I want. I can also grab the whole message and drag it to any part of the screen and adjust the width of the log.

 

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Marques,

I downloaded that PDF file which was zipped. Unfortunately though, I can not open it. I wonder if you could enlarge  on your last post somewhat.

I wuld like to think that it may slve a problem of mine in that I undock a VC view which I then move to another screen. I then resize it fill that screen, pan to create a side external view through the cockpit window. I am able to save it as part of the set up for that flight. Each time I call up that flight it is displayed where I left it but... the view returns to the original VC view and I have to go through the panning process again each time I want to fly. I am hoping that what you linked to will actually be able to save it  permanently in the panned state.

Newtie,

I don't think this will be much good to you but you can undock the ATC chatter, resize and move it to anywhere on your screen. HOWEVER, that turns your opaque ATC block into a vivid blue box which you cannot see through.  I believe that this would be intrusive if left on your original screen, but it works wonderfully if you have an extra screen.  You have to save it of course. I hope this helps.

Regards

Tony

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1 hour ago, yellowjack said:

I just grab the top  or the bottom  and drag them to the size I want. I can also grab the whole message and drag it to any part of the screen and adjust the width of the log.

 

Yes, I'm aware of that. I'm looking at resizing it permanently so I don't have to do that every time.

Thanks,

Mark

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1 hour ago, dmarques69 said:

Permanently out of the box nope unfortunately, but you can use something like this http://www.casawave.fr/upload/fsx/Panel_Position.zip

It saves all your windows and panels positions!

 

 

I only want to save the size of the ATC window, not the main window as I'm running triple monitors. :biggrin:

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Yes, it can be done very easily. When I am behind my PC I will post how. Stay tuned. 

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41 minutes ago, himmelhorse said:

Marques,

I downloaded that PDF file which was zipped. Unfortunately though, I can not open it. I wonder if you could enlarge  on your last post somewhat.

I wuld like to think that it may slve a problem of mine in that I undock a VC view which I then move to another screen. I then resize it fill that screen, pan to create a side external view through the cockpit window. I am able to save it as part of the set up for that flight. Each time I call up that flight it is displayed where I left it but... the view returns to the original VC view and I have to go through the panning process again each time I want to fly. I am hoping that what you linked to will actually be able to save it  permanently in the panned state.

Newtie,

I don't think this will be much good to you but you can undock the ATC chatter, resize and move it to anywhere on your screen. HOWEVER, that turns your opaque ATC block into a vivid blue box which you cannot see through.  I believe that this would be intrusive if left on your original screen, but it works wonderfully if you have an extra screen.  You have to save it of course. I hope this helps.

Regards

Tony

I'm running triple monitors so this might work. Will give it a try.

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1 minute ago, J van E said:

Yes, it can be done very easily. When I am behind my PC I will post how. Stay tuned. 

All righty then :biggrin:

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Go to your P3D folder, open the Gauges folder and open missionpanels.cfg with Notepad.

Search for [Window11] which is the ATC window.

Edit the window_size entry or: the numbers are percentages of the screen, so 0.2, 0.53 means the width is a 5th (20%) of your screen and the height is just over half (53%) of your screen.

Edit the position: 0 (zero) is top left corner, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right corner, 3 is left middle, 4 is middle, 5 is right middle, 6 is bottom left corner, 7 is bottom middle, 8 is bottom right corner

Save the file and your done forever. Well, until the next reinstall. Just try some numbers to see what works best for you.

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Thanks Jeroen, l had this very same question earlier and was very happy to see someone finally posing (and someone answering!) it.

Kind regards, Michael

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Thank you, Jeroen, this is really very helpful.  I've adjusted mine and I love the slimmer look.  I set the window width to 0.11, and left the setting of 0.53 so I wouldn't need to scroll through the menu items.  I then assigned the position to number 2 that keeps it in the upper right corner.  What a grand tweak this is!  

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4 hours ago, J van E said:

Go to your P3D folder, open the Gauges folder and open missionpanels.cfg with Notepad.

Search for [Window11] which is the ATC window.

Edit the window_size entry or: the numbers are percentages of the screen, so 0.2, 0.53 means the width is a 5th (20%) of your screen and the height is just over half (53%) of your screen.

Edit the position: 0 (zero) is top left corner, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right corner, 3 is left middle, 4 is middle, 5 is right middle, 6 is bottom left corner, 7 is bottom middle, 8 is bottom right corner

Save the file and your done forever. Well, until the next reinstall. Just try some numbers to see what works best for you.

Excellent. Works perfect. Thanks.

Mark

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5 hours ago, J van E said:

Go to your P3D folder, open the Gauges folder and open missionpanels.cfg with Notepad.

Search for [Window11] which is the ATC window.

Edit the window_size entry or: the numbers are percentages of the screen, so 0.2, 0.53 means the width is a 5th (20%) of your screen and the height is just over half (53%) of your screen.

Edit the position: 0 (zero) is top left corner, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right corner, 3 is left middle, 4 is middle, 5 is right middle, 6 is bottom left corner, 7 is bottom middle, 8 is bottom right corner

Save the file and your done forever. Well, until the next reinstall. Just try some numbers to see what works best for you.

Didnt know this, always learning :) thank you for sharing!

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On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 2:54 PM, J van E said:

Go to your P3D folder, open the Gauges folder and open missionpanels.cfg with Notepad.

Search for [Window11] which is the ATC window.

Edit the window_size entry or: the numbers are percentages of the screen, so 0.2, 0.53 means the width is a 5th (20%) of your screen and the height is just over half (53%) of your screen.

Edit the position: 0 (zero) is top left corner, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right corner, 3 is left middle, 4 is middle, 5 is right middle, 6 is bottom left corner, 7 is bottom middle, 8 is bottom right corner

Save the file and your done forever. Well, until the next reinstall. Just try some numbers to see what works best for you.

awesome information .. thank you Jeroen

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On 1/8/2018 at 10:45 AM, newtie said:

Hi all-

Is there a way to resize the ATC window?

ATC chatter occupies about one third of the window with the rest white space.

Thanks, Mark

Yes, though it may in part depend on which plane you're in.   What you can do is resize the ATC window (and any 2D pop ups, etc) and save it to your DEFAULT FLIGHT.   I do this w/ the Majestic Q400 and it saves everything in the panel state inc window size and positions.

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Glad to have been of help, everyone! It is odd how such a simple trick has remained unknown to some, including me: I only found out about this trick a few months ago while I am almost certain this option has been there at least since the release of FSX...! :happy:

9 minutes ago, Noel said:

Yes, though it may in part depend on which plane you're in.   What you can do is resize the ATC window (and any 2D pop ups, etc) and save it to your DEFAULT FLIGHT.   I do this w/ the Majestic Q400 and it saves everything in the panel state inc window size and positions.

Correct, but default flights with addon planes often are a recipy for trouble. And sometimes some settings won't stick when you select another plane. I did have a default flight with a default plane at my home base, specific situation, time, weather, etc. AND the ATC window in the top left corner but quite often, if not always, the ATC returned to its default location after loading a different plane. Editing the missionpanels.cfg always works and for every plane. It is the most secure way of getting this done once and for all.

BTW Tip for those who use addons like GSX, ProATC, Active Sky: you can also change the size and position of the Simconnect window which those addons uses for interaction! I myself made it a bit smaller and positioned in the lower left corner. To do this you have to edit the same missionpanels.cfg but then [Windows12]. By default this has its size in mm (size_mm = 375, 250) but I changed that to:

window_size = 0.16, 0.53

because I found that easier to figure out, and

position = 6

Of course you can use any numbers you like. Since that window is used a lot it is very convenient to have that window where you want it!

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Very good, thanks Jeroen, though likely I'll never use the information as I've lost all patience and tolerance for fiddling w/ P3D.   I treasure making no changes and having it all work perfectly, which is normally the case, until I decide to change something, after which commences the troubleshooting!

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1 hour ago, Noel said:

Very good, thanks Jeroen, though likely I'll never use the information as I've lost all patience and tolerance for fiddling w/ P3D.   I treasure making no changes and having it all work perfectly, which is normally the case, until I decide to change something, after which commences the troubleshooting!

Haha, yes, I understand the desire to keep everything unchanged. But this change won’t give you any problems that need troubleshooting, in fact, using a default flight may cause more problems quicker! :happy:

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This is a great tip - I just did it and works perfect. With a 55" screen, the ATC window was always too large and misplaced.

Thanks again !!!

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2 hours ago, J van E said:

Correct, but default flights with addon planes often are a recipy for trouble.

Which is why I've never done it. :biggrin:

Cheers,

Mark

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59 minutes ago, J van E said:

Haha, yes, I understand the desire to keep everything unchanged. But this change won’t give you any problems that need troubleshooting, in fact, using a default flight may cause more problems quicker! :happy:

To add to your knowledge base Jeroen, some folks get away with it completely, like myself.  I use PMDG NGX and T7, Majestic Q400, RA Lancair Legacy and Turbine Duke.  All of these planes behave properly simply by my saving the default flight in the Dash 8.  Mine is not to question why, but to accept it when it happens even if by dumb luck!

But I get it, the other way is bullet-proof as it were, so thanks for that!

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9 hours ago, Noel said:

To add to your knowledge base Jeroen, some folks get away with it completely, like myself.  I use PMDG NGX and T7, Majestic Q400, RA Lancair Legacy and Turbine Duke.  All of these planes behave properly simply by my saving the default flight in the Dash 8.  Mine is not to question why, but to accept it when it happens even if by dumb luck!

But I get it, the other way is bullet-proof as it were, so thanks for that!

Hm, well, that’s actually very interesting because for a few weeks already and probably for months to come I only fly the Majestic Q400... I’ve got an idea why saving a default flight with this plane might indeed work (I always like to question why :tongue: ) but anyway, I might give this a try: that would save me some time to select the plane everytime. I do know my A2A planes can’t handle this and I’ve been flying the Comanche for ages (which is why I stopped saving default flights with addon planes) but if the Q400 is clever enough to be saved as default that would be very convenient. So thanks for the heads up. :happy: 

Come to think of it, if it works on my PC too I might even go back to a very old habit of mine which was saving a flight as default every single time before quitting the sim so that if I returned to the sim the plane would be in the exact same state as I left it, which is nice and feels realistic. And from my experience it seems the Q400 restores quicker from a saved flight, almost instantly, than from its scripts, which can take some time, which would also be nice! Great, now I’ve got something interesting to test again! :happy: Thanks!

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On 1/8/2018 at 2:54 PM, J van E said:

Go to your P3D folder, open the Gauges folder and open missionpanels.cfg with Notepad.

Search for [Window11] which is the ATC window.

Edit the window_size entry or: the numbers are percentages of the screen, so 0.2, 0.53 means the width is a 5th (20%) of your screen and the height is just over half (53%) of your screen.

Edit the position: 0 (zero) is top left corner, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right corner, 3 is left middle, 4 is middle, 5 is right middle, 6 is bottom left corner, 7 is bottom middle, 8 is bottom right corner

Save the file and your done forever. Well, until the next reinstall. Just try some numbers to see what works best for you.

If you delete or comment out position,

and replace it with  window_pos   = 0.0, 0.1

you get left side with enough top room for Alt (menu) and shift z info.

 

N99WB

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On 8.01.2018 at 9:54 PM, J van E said:

Go to your P3D folder, open the Gauges folder and open missionpanels.cfg with Notepad.

Search for [Window11] which is the ATC window.

Edit the window_size entry or: the numbers are percentages of the screen, so 0.2, 0.53 means the width is a 5th (20%) of your screen and the height is just over half (53%) of your screen.

Edit the position: 0 (zero) is top left corner, 1 is top middle, 2 is top right corner, 3 is left middle, 4 is middle, 5 is right middle, 6 is bottom left corner, 7 is bottom middle, 8 is bottom right corner

Save the file and your done forever. Well, until the next reinstall. Just try some numbers to see what works best for you.

Thank You! Works perfect!

Example:

DB0ub1vh.jpg

For 2560x1440pxt:

[Window11]
window_size             = 0.15, 0.43
position                = 2  

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